1/6 Hot Toys 1/6 Rogue One Orson Krennic

[TaliBane]

Totally agree with you and Wor-Gar. For me the visual style is one of the biggest draws to Star Wars. Macquarie, Lucas etc did an amazing job setting that tone.

Rogue One has done it best. Perhaps that's some of the reason why many consider it OT. I certainly do.


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Well, it technically "is" OT. I've said this before, but it always has to be mentioned that RO had it "easiest" of pretty much every post-OT SW film because it's set within the OT, thereby opening up the use of distinct visuals (costumes, vehicles, locations,) characters to some degree and also the classic story-stakes backdrop of the OT, which is HUGE.

And given that what most SW fans seem to want most is more OT, whether directly (actual return of OT characters/vehicles/story arcs/mythic journey) or indirectly (nostalgic nods, call backs, visually similar designs or story points) it's not that surprising that RO would be a fan fave. That's not to undermine the filmmaking, it's just saying that fans were just far more likely to love something like RO than something like Solo (which in some ways is an "alternate reality" SW film of having a non-HF Han.)

The PT and ST have not had the OT connections to anywhere near the same degree as RO, and Solo was kind of an outlier in being set in a "between PT and OT" era (I guess it's maybe 10-15 years before ANH, so maybe 5-10 years after ROTS?)

As I've always said, if Disney wants another non-trilogy SW film to clear a billion, all they have to do is make a film set between SW and ESB.

 

[Khev]

The PT and ST have not had the OT connections to anywhere near the same degree as RO, and Solo was kind of an outlier in being set in a "between PT and OT" era (I guess it's maybe 10-15 years before ANH, so maybe 5-10 years after ROTS?)

Going by the 1977 SW Storybook which stated that Chewie was 200 years old, "Solo" would take place 10 years prior (since he's stated as being 190) which would also be exactly 10 years after ROTS. Or at least Han's Kessel Run takes place 10 years prior to ANH with his escape from Corellia being an additional 3 years prior to that.

Jyn's flashback to living with her mom and dad on Coruscant would still be the closest to the PT that we've seen in a Disney flick. I'm thinking that that scene would have been 3-5 years after ROTS.

 

[SilverStar17]

It (R1) sort of had the feel of a film that took place in between the PT and OT to me. It had an OT feel/setting, but the visuals of the PT.

 

[Khev]

It (R1) sort of had the feel of a film that took place in between the PT and OT to me. It had an OT feel/setting, but the visuals of the PT.

RO's visuals were basically what I wanted the 1997 SW:SE to be. Imagine if the entire Death Star attack had been redone Scarif-style instead of updating only a handful of shots.

But what an ingenious way for Disney to give us an updated "ANH era" battle, complete with authentic Red and Gold Leaders no less, and in a way that didn't step on Lucas' toes (like updating ANH themselves for instance.)

 

[Hoody999]

RO's visuals were basically what I wanted the 1997 SW:SE to be. Imagine if the entire Death Star attack had been redone Scarif-style instead of updating only a handful of shots.

But what an ingenious way for Disney to give us an updated "ANH era" battle, complete with authentic Red and Gold Leaders no less, and in a way that didn't step on Lucas' toes (like updating ANH themselves for instance.)

Yep exactly. There's no wonder that last 3rd act is just so epic.

When the rebel fleet hyperspaces into Scariff and the camera follows the Xwings it doesn't get much better than that !


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[momaw]

Jynn did say she hadn't seen her father in 15 years which makes those opening scenes 4 years after ROTS. The flash backs of Galen's time working for the empire were likely around 2 years after ROTS.

 

[Khev]

Jynn did say she hadn't seen her father in 15 years which makes those opening scenes 4 years after ROTS. The flash backs of Galen's time working for the empire were likely around 2 years after ROTS.

Talk about a gap filler, lol. Two years after ROTS all the way to within an hour or two of ANH!

 

[DarkChocobi]

Totally agree with you and Wor-Gar. For me the visual style is one of the biggest draws to Star Wars. Macquarie, Lucas etc did an amazing job setting that tone.

Rogue One has done it best. Perhaps that's some of the reason why many consider it OT. I certainly do.


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RO was part of the OT.

 

[Wor-Gar]

*breath* Does this belong to you? *breath*


Epic picture.

 

[SilverStar17]

"Don't fail me again. Or you'll end up like him."

RO's visuals were basically what I wanted the 1997 SW:SE to be. Imagine if the entire Death Star attack had been redone Scarif-style instead of updating only a handful of shots.

But what an ingenious way for Disney to give us an updated "ANH era" battle, complete with authentic Red and Gold Leaders no less, and in a way that didn't step on Lucas' toes (like updating ANH themselves for instance.)

I actually never saw those. I remember my 7th grade teacher and one of my classmates whose family she was personal friends with, talking about going to see it after school on Friday though as each one came out.

 

[subzro]

RO was part of the OT.

So would that make it Original Quadrilogy or OQ?

 

[SilverStar17]

So would that make it Original Quadrilogy or OQ?

My sentiments as well. How can R1 be part of the OT when the OT was only three films? Hence, trilogy.

However, I do concur that R1 took place during the OT.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Maybe Solo and Rogue One are the better part of the BT -- Between Trilogy

The Kenobi movie will be the final part.

 

[SilverStar17]

Maybe Solo and Rogue One are the better part of the BT -- Between Trilogy

The Kenobi movie will be the final part.

 

[Wor-Gar]

where the hell is that from?

 

[SilverStar17]

No idea actually. I just liked the way the statement was conveyed.

 

[Asta]

OT = Original Tetralogy.

 

[TaliBane]

Going by the 1977 SW Storybook which stated that Chewie was 200 years old, "Solo" would take place 10 years prior (since he's stated as being 190) which would also be exactly 10 years after ROTS. Or at least Han's Kessel Run takes place 10 years prior to ANH with his escape from Corellia being an additional 3 years prior to that.

Jyn's flashback to living with her mom and dad on Coruscant would still be the closest to the PT that we've seen in a Disney flick. I'm thinking that that scene would have been 3-5 years after ROTS.

Yeah, that sounds about right - Han in Solo seems like he's maybe 25 and in ANH he's more like 35 or so.

RO's visuals were basically what I wanted the 1997 SW:SE to be. Imagine if the entire Death Star attack had been redone Scarif-style instead of updating only a handful of shots.

But what an ingenious way for Disney to give us an updated "ANH era" battle, complete with authentic Red and Gold Leaders no less, and in a way that didn't step on Lucas' toes (like updating ANH themselves for instance.)

Bring on the "days before ESB" movie.

Walkers, Ord Mantell, Bossk, innards of Bespin...

Yep exactly. There's no wonder that last 3rd act is just so epic.

When the rebel fleet hyperspaces into Scariff and the camera follows the Xwings it doesn't get much better than that !


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Maybe Solo and Rogue One are the better part of the BT -- Between Trilogy

The Kenobi movie will be the final part.

I watched Solo again and it didn't grow on me the way RO did, but it hasn't been that long.

 

[Futurion]

I consider RO part of the OT. It has same feeling and they did a really good job with matching visuals. And I will repeat myself but I also dig the characters, especially Krennic who is not just a shallow villain.


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[yodasan]

So would that make it Original Quadrilogy or OQ?

Wish I'd thought of that