Hot Toys- 300 - King Leonidas spec and pics

[Raymond F.]

It could definitely be an issue of how the arms were put in the rubber... but it still just holds true what i was saying yesterday.. before the irony and we got two breaks confirming my argument... myself being one of them! Anyway that theory sort of alluding to what Robbie was suggesting, that you can;t see what's going on in the rubber.... and that if it snaps now... or any time you're screwed like i said my godfather leg broke for no reason at all... but that's an easy swap with a spare body.

mjordan23... sucks that we share the same pain.... HT customer service has always come through for me it just takes a bloody long time... when you email them send the proof of purchase and photos f the break in the same email as opposed to waiting for them to ask for much prompter response. I think i have to go through them i got it off a random ebay seller in Hong Kong and would rather deal with HT directly.

 

[Gates70]

I had no problems posing him at all...

 

[Mesa]

I was considering picking this up. Think I won't now.

 

[Deak Starkiller]

Don't be discouraged Scott, what happened to Raymond is a bummer but I love mine. But I have him posed pretty conservatively.

 

[KBA]

like i said my godfather leg broke for no reason at all... but that's an easy swap with a spare body.

Did you head over to the Godfather thread and warn everybody that the figure is a piece of crap? Probably not because these things happen - true types can brake for no reason at all. Doesn't happen to the majority of people, but it happens. It sucks. Even more so for true types stuck in rubber. But your argument is far from confirmed if you're just looking at these two breaks. From the way you described even posing it that little of an angle, with such little force - sounds like another brake for no reason at all. ____ happens.

Sorry to hear about your body breaking.

 

[robbiethepainter]

Easy on Raymond. He just lost someone and will need time to heal. A HT break is not an easy thing to get over.

 

[Raymond F.]

Did you head over to the Godfather thread and warn everybody that the figure is a piece of crap? Probably not because these things happen - true types can brake for no reason at all. Doesn't happen to the majority of people, but it happens. It sucks. Even more so for true types stuck in rubber. But your argument is far from confirmed if you're just looking at these two breaks. From the way you described even posing it that little of an angle, with such little force - sounds like another brake for no reason at all. ____ happens.

Sorry to hear about your body breaking.

I see what you're saying and it does have merit but all in all at the end of the day it it were not for the poor mechanics and design of this figure i wouldn't be in this bind... The Godfather is not a piece of crap because his design was not the result or an hiderance to having him function that will result in the break... i could fix it... with this I can't. The really unhelpful instruction guide is reason enough to know that the slightest of turns is enough to totally break your figure... yet in the promo pics they have him holding his arm vertically directly above his head


Also my argument was only always over the rubber/articulation... I thought the paint, heads and everything else was great all along on this figure... Sure enough the thing i was worried about came out to be true I don't discourage anyone from buying this... I just warn you if you do don't expect/attempt to pose it.

 

[Cheungkinmen]

oh boy, I'm crossing my fingers so mine won't come with that defect :S

 

[Lord Vicious]

I had no problems posing him at all...

Looks great mate; cool pose. But you should try to futz / water treat the cape a bit. It's a bit too puffy now in the neck area...

 

[CyberVillain]

Also my argument was only always over the rubber/articulation... I thought the paint, heads and everything else was great all along on this figure... Sure enough the thing i was worried about came out to be true I don't discourage anyone from buying this... I just warn you if you do don't expect/attempt to pose it.

Well, this figure is practically naked, no one would buy him if he had visible joints, so a rubber body is the only solution, compared to the Medicom Alien rubber body (Which is the only other rubber body figure I own so far) this figure is a dream!

 

[The Ween]

Did you head over to the Godfather thread and warn everybody that the figure is a piece of crap? Probably not because these things happen - true types can brake for no reason at all. Doesn't happen to the majority of people, but it happens. It sucks. Even more so for true types stuck in rubber. But your argument is far from confirmed if you're just looking at these two breaks. From the way you described even posing it that little of an angle, with such little force - sounds like another brake for no reason at all. ____ happens.

Sorry to hear about your body breaking.

Just because one person has a problem doesn't make the figure a piece of crap. The Godfather is a great figure.

 

[Yodee]

im suprised no1 has done a custom to this guy yet...like a bloody version with cuts and what not...anyway how easy is this guy to pose? easier then rambo 3 body??

 

[CyberVillain]

im suprised no1 has done a custom to this guy yet...like a bloody version with cuts and what not...anyway how easy is this guy to pose? easier then rambo 3 body??

I've bought two copies of this figure just for customs, will get back with pictures when they are done (Will only use the body, so no 300 relation).

Today my third copy arrived, this one I will display just as is.

Pretty funny that ABC-express used regular stamps to send this package all the way to sweden

 

[Raymond F.]

Well, this figure is practically naked, no one would buy him if he had visible joints, so a rubber body is the only solution, compared to the Medicom Alien rubber body (Which is the only other rubber body figure I own so far) this figure is a dream!

Actually this brings up a pretty good point... I'm the biggest advocate of no visible joints you could possibly find... Its why I don;t like whiplash and never take Wolverine's shirt off...

However.... HT Alien is a great example of rubber that bends easier... It's not the method they used it's just the poor execution.

 

[rollotomasi]

Ugh. This must be like Karma for me or something... so i go to move it in the way that wookster claimed it did and I did it with the utmost trepidation I might add barely ANY force... did not even get to about 30 degrees ... of course what does it do? IT SNAPS. right at the shoulder. exactly like I said it would ____!!
I'm so frustrated with this piece of junk When HT sends me a replacement... which of course won't be for months with how slow they are and with me paying money to ship the thing to them... when i get the new figure I don't even think its standing erect... I think it's going straight to ebay
Oh and when i went to move his elbow from the bent position there was a giant unnatural crease left in the rubber.

My word of advice take it or leave it...DO NOT POSE THIS THING... Leave it standing straight or prepare for breaks/ creases and a whole other slew of problems...

of COURSE with all my complaining this has to happen to me. It figures. I swear i barely touched it. Very disappointed in hot toys.
ugh...

Hi, Raymond.
I just joined SSF now because i want to reply to your posts especially because of the negative feedbacks on your "negative" posts.
All i can say is other people would've posted the same thing if it happened to them.
I know i would because i have the same problem (although i didn't break mine.)

I got Leo last Saturday, the right arm works fine, the left shoulder articulation can only move sideways; forward and backward is just around 10 degrees from the default position. Yes i applied pulse-raising pressure on the dang thing, still can't get it to move further so i guess its just wise to just stop and accept the sad fact that i got a defective one.

So i complained to the store owner, the reply was that Leo has "limited articulation". Yes that's true but when i can't do what the manual shows, then there definitely is a problem.
I sent him a PM with links from this thread just to show that mine is not an isolated case and i'm not dreaming anything up.

Some comments...
1. Head joint is uncomfortably tight to remove for a figure that supposed to have removable heads, even tighter compared to Dutch or any of my other HT's.

2. On the floppy neck, i was surprised it bent sideways when i was putting the head back on, i thought i broke it.
Tight head joint + floppy neck = could've been done better.

3. No crease on the elbow on mine.

4. Aw c'mon, its not a piece of junk...

I really really like this figure. I'm just bummed i can't to the shield-raised-against-rain-while-watching-enemy-fleet-sink pose as of now.
I hope it works out for the both of us.

Note:
My last purchase was BladeII, when i opened it, one of the pistols was missing its magazine clip, i emailed both the store owner and HT, they sent the small stuff over in a month's time. HT's after-service is good here.

 

[CyberVillain]

I just noticed a negative side effect of the rubber body, dust and hair sticks to hit like a trucker to a whore house.

 

[KBA]

I see what you're saying and it does have merit but all in all at the end of the day it it were not for the poor mechanics and design of this figure i wouldn't be in this bind... The Godfather is not a piece of crap because his design was not the result or an hiderance to having him function that will result in the break... i could fix it... with this I can't.

I agree that this is not as easy a fix, or rather, as cheap a fix. How did the Godfather break for you? Out of trying to pose him? I would see that as paralleled problems, with the Leonidas just being covered in rubber. Both were designed to be posed, but both can break in (as of now) minority cases. I'm not saying this applies to you, but the visual and somatic feedback we get from regular true types joints have and always will be a little easier to judge and pose - we know what were working with. When it's covered in rubber, it seems to always be a little trickier which can lead to some unforeseen breaks. I really hope its this case anyway. Truth be told, even with more limited articulation I would still love this figure the same but that breaks down into a joint visibility versus articulation argument

 

[The Ringer]

I've bought two copies of this figure just for customs, will get back with pictures when they are done (Will only use the body, so no 300 relation).

Today my third copy arrived, this one I will display just as is.

Pretty funny that ABC-express used regular stamps to send this package all the way to sweden

That is insane!

Did they even put it in a cardboard box? It looks like its just wrapped in paper?

 

[Raymond F.]

Hi, Raymond.
I just joined SSF now because i want to reply to your posts especially because of the negative feedbacks on your "negative" posts.
All i can say is other people would've posted the same thing if it happened to them.
I know i would because i have the same problem (although i didn't break mine.)

I got Leo last Saturday, the right arm works fine, the left shoulder articulation can only move sideways; forward and backward is just around 10 degrees from the default position. Yes i applied pulse-raising pressure on the dang thing, still can't get it to move further so i guess its just wise to just stop and accept the sad fact that i got a defective one.

So i complained to the store owner, the reply was that Leo has "limited articulation". Yes that's true but when i can't do what the manual shows, then there definitely is a problem.
I sent him a PM with links from this thread just to show that mine is not an isolated case and i'm not dreaming anything up.

Some comments...
1. Head joint is uncomfortably tight to remove for a figure that supposed to have removable heads, even tighter compared to Dutch or any of my other HT's.

2. On the floppy neck, i was surprised it bent sideways when i was putting the head back on, i thought i broke it.
Tight head joint + floppy neck = could've been done better.

3. No crease on the elbow on mine.

4. Aw c'mon, its not a piece of junk...

I really really like this figure. I'm just bummed i can't to the shield-raised-against-rain-while-watching-enemy-fleet-sink pose as of now.
I hope it works out for the both of us.

Note:
My last purchase was BladeII, when i opened it, one of the pistols was missing its magazine clip, i emailed both the store owner and HT, they sent the small stuff over in a month's time. HT's after-service is good here.

Welcome rollotomasi!!

Thanks for your defence /2 cents though I'm sorry you've been having the same problems as me... I think the freaks who know me well know I'm not a troll or a deliberate sh__disturber... and for the record I think this is the only Hot Toy I've gotten besides DX Joker, that I had some very harsh criticism over...

Usually I'm the one out there advocating for the rubber... I had long winded joint bashing comments in the Whiplash and Wolverine threads but I really feel this is an issue of poor quality and design and for not only the price, but the misleading promo pics I had expected an awful lot more...

You're right to argue that the booklet suggests a lot more posing than the 10 degree movement you and I had experienced.

Is it a piece of junk? It may have been initial rage speaking but it's certainly not worth over 150 with those defections... I do still feel the engineering is junky yes... my fluky break aside, if the rubber is to be so stiff they should make the endoskeleton or framework a lot tougher to break... especially if you turn it in one of those forbidden ways which is nearly impossible to decipher from the poor guidelines anyway.

 

[PRIME]

Thanks for the info raymond and i dont like the look of HT chip n dale leonidas so i just bashed one using ignite and HT head sculpt and helmet sheild...body is soldier story hope u freaks like it