Hot Toys Avatar: 1/6th scale Avatar Jake Sully Collectible Figure

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Nice figure, definitely under scale though. Too bad about that.

And I'd like to know what type of materials were used for various pieces- the rubbery torso has me worried- I hope it's not a latex product that will deteriorate quickly, as latex does.

Also, I hope there are no reactions between the various plastic pieces on the arms and throat that might "melt", as sometimes happens with different types and plastics and rubber when left in contact with each other.

Sean

If it is out of scale, I hardly notice since it won't be pared with any figures from other lines. I doubt the torso will cause any issues. It feels more like vinyl than latex rubber. Honestly I can't see why you're freaking out about this piece. I'm sure they have used similar materials with other products before and I have yet to read anything about accessories "melting" any other figures (except the Batsuit Begins batman, the finish was a problem with many).
 
If it is out of scale, I hardly notice since it won't be pared with any figures from other lines. I doubt the torso will cause any issues. It feels more like vinyl than latex rubber. Honestly I can't see why you're freaking out about this piece. I'm sure they have used similar materials with other products before and I have yet to read anything about accessories "melting" any other figures (except the Batsuit Begins batman, the finish was a problem with many).

Uh.. well, I'm not "freaking out" at all. I posted once in this whole thread with some valid points that I hadn't seen addressed before. Given that other figures using a rubberized/vinyl material did end up deteriorating rapidly after release I thought it was a valid point to discuss. Personally I don't see the advantage to the "rubber" torso anyway- it could have been harder plastic like the rest of the body and been fine. In any case- I do hope this is a vinyl that won't suffer the same fate as other releases have.

Dissimilar plastics can cause huge problems when in contact with each other - particularly any kind of vinyl type rubbery material and harder plastic, which is why I was concerned, mainly about the throat of the figure and the throat mic and chocker thing. My immediate concern, with experience I've had with other similar products, was that the "rubber" of the neck might absorb some of the color from the throat mic over time.

Yeah, the scale is definitely off. If they do release any human figures you'd notice, particularly if you are very familiar with the film.

Anyway- as I said it looks great as a stand along figure. Though they really blew it by not having an alternate screaming head that is so iconic to this warrior look.

Sean
 
I really think the torso is made form the same (or similar) materials as Indiana Jones and the TTM-19 bodies upper torso. Harder vinyl, but pliable when needed.
 
It looks massive next to other 12" figures, so is it really an issue that it's slightly smaller? Hell I collect the Buffy maquettes and the female characters are nearly as big as the male ones, even though in the show they were a lot smaller than them, scales seem to be all over the place anyway.

I personally don't think they'll release human figures for Avatar, Neytiri is really the only other one I think they'll do.
 
The Pelvic region and upper torso is made of softer pliable PVC.. The rest of the body is also PVC (harder). The thinner region (hard PVC) upper thighs/hips region is prone to tearing, when intersecting with the pliable pelvic.
 
It looks massive next to other 12" figures, so is it really an issue that it's slightly smaller? Hell I collect the Buffy maquettes and the female characters are nearly as big as the male ones, even though in the show they were a lot smaller than them, scales seem to be all over the place anyway.

I personally don't think they'll release human figures for Avatar, Neytiri is really the only other one I think they'll do.

Obviously it looks taller than a 12 inch figure because it's about 17 inches, but it's shorter than it should to be 1/6th scale. James Cameron's website says the Na'Vi are 10 feet tall, that's 20 inches in 1/6 scale. This figure is about 17 inches. There may be height differences with the hybrid Na'Vi but the film clearly shows Jake as a bit larger than this Hot Toys figure is proportioned.

You can also look at the head. The head really isn't much larger than your average Sideshow human head, and it should be.

As I said, aside from that, and the lack of the screaming head, it's a very nice figure.

Sean
 
Obviously it looks taller than a 12 inch figure because it's about 17 inches, but it's shorter than it should to be 1/6th scale. James Cameron's website says the Na'Vi are 10 feet tall, that's 20 inches in 1/6 scale. This figure is about 17 inches. There may be height differences with the hybrid Na'Vi but the film clearly shows Jake as a bit larger than this Hot Toys figure is proportioned.

You can also look at the head. The head really isn't much larger than your average Sideshow human head, and it should be.

As I said, aside from that, and the lack of the screaming head, it's a very nice figure.

Sean


Actually to be honest, the figures sculpt is appropriately sized. The Na'vi had heads that where disproportionate to their lanky elongated bodies (this goes the same for their Hybrid Avatar counterparts). The Avatar are also either shorter or taller than the pure Na'vi depending on how tall the genetic drivers are. Norm Spellmans Avatar was much taller than Jake Sully's (since Norm Spellman was 3-4 inches taller).
 
Actually to be honest, the figures sculpt is appropriately sized. The Na'vi had heads that where disproportionate to their lanky elongated bodies (this goes the same for their Hybrid Avatar counterparts). The Avatar are also either shorter or taller than the pure Na'vi depending on how tall the genetic drivers are. Norm Spellmans Avatar was much taller than Jake Sully's (since Norm Spellman was 3-4 inches taller).

Again, if you watch the film Jake is obviously proportioned larger compared to humans (including his head) than this Hot Toys figure is compared to other 1/6 human figures. That's what I was saying. It is a bit smaller than it should be if it's supposed to be 1/6th.

Sean
 
Obviously it looks taller than a 12 inch figure because it's about 17 inches, but it's shorter than it should to be 1/6th scale. James Cameron's website says the Na'Vi are 10 feet tall, that's 20 inches in 1/6 scale. This figure is about 17 inches. There may be height differences with the hybrid Na'Vi but the film clearly shows Jake as a bit larger than this Hot Toys figure is proportioned.

You can also look at the head. The head really isn't much larger than your average Sideshow human head, and it should be.

As I said, aside from that, and the lack of the screaming head, it's a very nice figure.

Sean

Normal stance... 18 inches.. extend everything to the max...probable around 18.5"
 
Who cares if the figure is off by an inch or two :gah: appreciate the artistic qualities of this figure, I think this figure is great and it seems a perfect size:lecture
 
As an objective lurker in this thread I am interested to hear from people who have issues with this figure just as much as I'm interested to hear from people who don't :dunno
 
As an objective lurker in this thread I am interested to hear from people who have issues with this figure just as much as I'm interested to hear from people who don't :dunno

Same here.

Who cares if the figure is off by an inch or two :gah: appreciate the artistic qualities of this figure, I think this figure is great and it seems a perfect size:lecture

Well, I care. I'd prefer it to be sized accurately, especially when it's billed as 1/6 and displayed with other 1/6 figures... and very expensive. It's a bit like having a Medicom Darth Vader along side other 1/6 Star Wars figures. But I agree, it's a great figure apart from the scale issue. I do hope they carry on the line and make Neytiri.

Sean
 
A design problem.... the ankle socket for the split balls are set so deep that reduces the ankle articulation to almost non-existent... as the ankles are somewhat concealed by the leg guard they should allow some space like the wrist joint.
 
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Who cares if the figure is off by an inch or two :gah: appreciate the artistic qualities of this figure, I think this figure is great and it seems a perfect size:lecture

:exactly:

I can understand wanting perfection, but out of a production piece, this is pretty damn close. Of course if you think you can do better, go for it. I'm sure without having to deal with mass production you will have more control to make it EXACTLY 1:6 scaled. I've seen your work on the Wampa, so go for it! :wink1:
 
:exactly:

I can understand wanting perfection, but out of a production piece, this is pretty damn close. Of course if you think you can do better, go for it. I'm sure without having to deal with mass production you will have more control to make it EXACTLY 1:6 scaled. I've seen your work on the Wampa, so go for it! :wink1:

To be fair I never said I wanted absolute perfection or that I could do better, just that the figure was noticeably under-scale and that was a shame because otherwise it's nice. They clearly made it under-scale to save on costs, but then perhaps they should advertise it as 1/7th, not 1/6th.

Anyway- my few comments were not me "freaking out", as I was described, nor "expecting perfection" as you said, nor were they so unreasonable a critique that they should be met with someone implying I should just be silent and "appreciate it".

Bandito- yeah, I also noticed the lack of articulation in the ankles.

As I said, nice figure, but it does have a few flaws or shortcomings, which is a shame because it's expensive and otherwise nicely sculpted and finished. And luckily the paint on mine is good and the body is not floppy as some other people have experienced. Anyway, hope they make Neytiri.

Sean
 
I'm sure it accidently shrunk in production and there was nothing they could do. That seems to happen to all of their larger-than-normal figures. :rolleyes:
 
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