Hot Toys- Batman Begins:Batman Demon & Scarecrow spec and pics

[freshvein]

the seller appears to be going to the tokyo show at xmas hoping to pick this up. i emailed hot toys and they said they will be releasing this in hong kong early next year anyway so hopefully prices won't be too high

 

[haytil]

I keep that auction listing in my "My Ebay" account as a watched item, just because I'm curious to see if anyone actually buys it.

Every few days, I look at it and I start laughing all over again. More than $1100! That's more than $550 per figure!

Forget two OC Batmen - you could get THREE OC Batman figures and probably still have money left over!

What a joke.

 

[aussieinnyc]

I read in another thread that HT were finished with the Batman liscence and won't be doing any figures from TDKR... Is that true? I can't seem to find any confirmation of this, and if so does that mean there's zero chance of a re-release of Scarecrow on his own at some point in the future?

Apparently they wrote that they wouldn't be doing any figures from the new movie on their Facebook page. It makes no sense to me that they wouldn't pursue the license, since there's a lot of money to be made from it...frankly I think the licensors must have responded pretty badly to all the problems they had with Batman DX and either declined to give them the license or imposed conditions on it that would have been more trouble than it was worth for HT to submit to them.

To your question, it wouldn't necessarily prevent them from releasing Scarecrow on his own, they obviously still have the license to release figures from Batman Begins since they are making the Demon/Scarecrow two pack now - it just would depend on when that license expires, and that's information that HT has never (to my knowledge) released.

 

[haytil]

Apparently they wrote that they wouldn't be doing any figures from the new movie on their Facebook page. It makes no sense to me that they wouldn't pursue the license, since there's a lot of money to be made from it...frankly I think the licensors must have responded pretty badly to all the problems they had with Batman DX and either declined to give them the license or imposed conditions on it that would have been more trouble than it was worth for HT to submit to them.

That's funny, because when people were posting that, I looked on their Facebook page for confirmation, but I couldn't find any such message, anywhere (Facebook or not).

 

[Sachiel]

It's BS. People were just joking around in a fail thread.

 

[EVILFACE]

people believed that

 

[Sachiel]

Everything on the internet is true until proven otherwise.

 

[darren1228]

I read in another thread that HT were finished with the Batman liscence and won't be doing any figures from TDKR... Is that true? I can't seem to find any confirmation of this, and if so does that mean there's zero chance of a re-release of Scarecrow on his own at some point in the future?

Common sense says this is false.

 

[sfa]

Normaly I wouldn't believe these sort of statements if they came from certain uncouth individuals, but one of the members who stated that info was a very respectable poster - and I couldn't find any sense of irony or BS in the post, hence my doubt!
Anyway, my slight concern at the minute is that if myself, or any other members here, buy Scarecrow now at what seems to be going to be a heavily inflated price, are we just going to end up annoyed at ourselves later down the line if HT release him again as a solo figure?
There's no guarantee I guess that this release will be the only version of him. No doubt if we all jump on it, HT will see how much demand there was for him and release a solo version of Scarecrow with all the usual extras....

 

[haytil]

Normaly I wouldn't believe these sort of statements if they came from certain uncouth individuals, but one of the members who stated that info was a very respectable poster - and I couldn't find any sense of irony or BS in the post, hence my doubt!

Exactly why I was left wondering, rather than assuming it was part of the farce of the thread.

Anyway, my slight concern at the minute is that if myself, or any other members here, buy Scarecrow now at what seems to be going to be a heavily inflated price, are we just going to end up annoyed at ourselves later down the line if HT release him again as a solo figure?
There's no guarantee I guess that this release will be the only version of him. No doubt if we all jump on it, HT will see how much demand there was for him and release a solo version of Scarecrow with all the usual extras....

I've started to wonder this as well - I'd really rather not have this happen and end up having spent a lot more than I needed to (I'm thinking of getting two Scarecrows, one with the strait-jacket and one without).

Though it's also possible that a wider release of a Scarecrow figure would be the version from "The Dark Knight" - in which case the suit would be different (and the mask, if they don't get lazy).

When this "exclusive" version gets released, I get the feeling it'll be some months before they're all sold out on Ebay. During that period, the price will continually rise - but if Hot Toys is going to announce a Scarecrow figure, a window of many months would increase the chances of that happening before you absolutely have to end up purchasing the "exclusive" version (lest you miss out on it entirely).

If they do announce one, you might end up saving yourself quite a bit of money by having held off - and if they don't announce one, you'll have to pay a bit more than if you had bought the "exclusive" version as soon as it was made available. The difference in prices might make holding off for a few months worth it, as a calculated gamble...

 

[Cap'n Cook]

Normaly I wouldn't believe these sort of statements if they came from certain uncouth individuals, but one of the members who stated that info was a very respectable poster - and I couldn't find any sense of irony or BS in the post, hence my doubt!

Yeh, I'm sorry about that.

 

[EVILFACE]

Normaly I wouldn't believe these sort of statements if they came from certain uncouth individuals, but one of the members who stated that info was a very respectable poster - and I couldn't find any sense of irony or BS in the post, hence my doubt!
Anyway, my slight concern at the minute is that if myself, or any other members here, buy Scarecrow now at what seems to be going to be a heavily inflated price, are we just going to end up annoyed at ourselves later down the line if HT release him again as a solo figure?
There's no guarantee I guess that this release will be the only version of him. No doubt if we all jump on it, HT will see how much demand there was for him and release a solo version of Scarecrow with all the usual extras....

If that info was true, it would have been all over the board by the whiners.

As for Scarecrow, like anything pay what you feel it is worth.

 

[karamazov80]

a very respectable poster

I sure would like to know more about this mythical creature.

 

[Sachiel]

If that info was true, it would have been all over the board by the whiners.

It would have had it's own thread or 2... or 3...

 

[aussieinnyc]

Well that's what I get for despising Facebook so much that I didn't bother delving into that hideous waste of space in order to verify "facts". Like sfa I remember reading it from someone who wouldn't normally buy in to the whole false info thing. Still, the rest of my post stands - they can release anything for as long as they hold the license to the film.

Whether they would release Scarecrow on his own though, I'm not sure. He's not a major player in TDK and it's been years since BB. Despite the enthusiasm for him here, I reckon he could be a tough sell. Especially in Asia where he will be more easily obtained at a more reasonable price in the two-pack since customers won't have to rely on third-party sellers.

 

[Cheungkinmen]

Hey guys, just dropping by a letting you guys know that I'm working on a Cillian Murphy sculpt:

https://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86388

 

[Tick-Tock]

Am I the only one who thinks these two figures are laughably bad? I mean, if they're going to bust out some more Batman figures, how about a DX without any quality issues that has better articulation? Someone actually said a while back on this forum that those figures where just a joke, and I believed them. Imagine my surprise when I saw weeks later that you could pre-order them...

 

[haytil]

Am I the only one who thinks these two figures are laughably bad?

I don't think they're laughably bad. I think it's frustrating that they'll be difficult to acquire, but I'm glad they're doing new figures, rather than ANOTHER Batman and ANOTHER Joker (I know, Demon Batman is Batman, but at least it's a radical new kind of Batman, at least from a character point-of-view).

I think they could be better - like a Cillian Murphy headsculpt and some accessories. But they're not laughably bad.

I mean, if they're going to bust out some more Batman figures, how about a DX without any quality issues that has better articulation?

Right, because what we need is ANOTHER Batman in the exact same suit he's been released in twice now already? Not to mention the other, non-Hot Toys versions of the suit?

The DX was already a redo of the TDK suit. A redo of a redo is just more treading water.

The initial DXs had quality issues, but the DC Direct batch was fine. If you want a DX without quality issues, just grab one of those. Some complain about the biceps, but it doesn't seem nearly as widespread as the issues in previous batches.

Also, better articulation just isn't going to happen. It's not that Hot Toys is lazy, it's that the technology just isn't there. You can't have an accurate rubber suit that moves freely. That's just a fundamental limitation, and you see limited articulation in more or less all of the Batman figures (Hot Toys and not).

I'm glad we're getting the Scarecrow. And I'm glad we're getting a unique character that we were unlikely to get from any toy manufacturer.

I just hope the price ends up being reasonable - that's what would make these figures "bad," in my opinion. But who knows how that'll end up? We'll have to wait and see.

 

[SanShouXMA]

Good post haytil

Also does anyone know if these are up for pre-order anywhere yet?

 

[Geil]

If you (TT) have been around longer you may know the reason why the DX was made this way. The MMS version had softer thinner rubber throughout and a lot more ppl complained about the gut sticking out in many poses so the DX had it's abs redesigned to be stiffer so it won't stick out in 95% of the poses.

No PO anywhere as it is yet to be determined if this makes it out of Asia without going through scalper heaven eBay