1/6 Hot Toys - MMS 320 - Star Wars Ep.VII - Kylo Ren

[Centrocal]

Ugggh. I hope that was recorded specifically for the toys & merch to offer clarity in the sound clips. Because there is zero emotion, character or "acting" in the delivery of those lines. Imagine that generic voice saying "You don't know the POWER of the DAARK SIIDE" or "DON'T MAKE ME DESTROY YOU" instead of the way Vader delivers it.

It sounds like he obviously recorded those lines in a sound booth back to back, specifically for the toy. Not audio from the film. He's clearly a professional

 

[xipotec]

We need Jack Bauer to pitch this to his contact at Disney, stat. Though it would probably just be easier to Greedo that scene.

So long as I am in re-write mode and Bauer has the "in"

1. Jar Jar is actually killed in every scene, he can regenerate in 1 day although it costs him brain cells. Whicha is whya he talka so stoopida.
2. Anakins Mom was actually a "woman of the night" She has had several children "spontaneously" from the force, who were sold by Watto before Ani was born. She couldn't sell Ani cause no one liked his hair cut.
3. These sold children , are the eventually the parents of Kylo Ren( see he is the subject of this thread after all)
4. Jango Fett was not killed that was his clone. Same for Boba Fett. The REAL Fett's live in a luxury condo in the Outer Rim (Rishi maze?) with Jabba who faked his strangulation and escape podded his way there.
5. Darth Maul survived his slicing and went on to attack Ben and Anakin several times ( nah skip thats its too stoopid)
6. Battle droids are not hackable by simply destroying the "mothership" one does not simply destroy a mothership buy shooting a few lazars inside. It was actually a self destruct to set the droids to sleep mode so they could be woken up later and wipe out the Gungans. Happens off screen in ROTS.
7. Anakin and Pad e faked their deaths (CLONES) and live happily in the Outer Rim. Guess who they are neighbors with? The perfect sitcom is born, "My Neighbors the Fetts and Hutts" at 8pm CBS.
8. The Younglings were never killed , Anakin moved them from the temple and had then re educated . They are all now older and have cybernetic implanted im there heads. They are the "Cult of Lobot"
9. Greedo is the last incarnation of Jar Jar.....
10. The ET's in the galactic Senate decide to recruit a boy named Elliot to form a group called "The Knights of Ren" who go back im time to stop the root cause of the clone wars, The Gungans , and wipe them out.

i can do more if needed.

 

[Blackout]

good news is, he doesn't sound like kermit the frog: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4D0wnze6ZI

WARNING: The lines may reveal some spoilers. I hope lucasfilm doesn't turn him into another darth maul.

Definitely sounds pretty boring, hoping like others its just toy stuff.

 

[cmiller99]

I have a 4K TV and recently watched the complete saga on Blu-ray. They all look superb, with ROTS having the best picture quality of the bunch.

Sorry, let me rephrase that. If the movies are released on 4K discs in 4K picture quality then AOTC and ROTS will end up looking like dinosaur fossils.

 

[Malgus]

Sorry, let me rephrase that. If the movies are released on 4K discs in 4K picture quality then AOTC and ROTS will end up looking like dinosaur fossils.

Why would that be? They will release those 2 movies in 4K too.

 

[Pixelpiper]

Why would that be? They will release those 2 movies in 4K too.

Because they'll be up-scaled? Because the compositing and VFX already looked dated, artificial and rough when they were originally released in theaters? Lots of possible reasons.

 

[Malgus]

Because they'll be up-scaled? Because the compositing and VFX already looked dated, artificial and rough when they were originally released in theaters? Lots of possible reasons.

I am no expert on movie making but could they not remaster these in 4k so it looks exactly like it was shot in 4k? I was hoping to get the entire series in UHD next year.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Be funny when the OT actually holds up better over time than the digitally created worlds of the PT.

 

[Pixelpiper]

I am no expert on movie making but could they not remaster these in 4k

The source is digital and maxed out at 1080p (and cropped), so you can't pull any more detail from it. You can only upscale it. This isn't the same thing as rescanning original negatives at a higher resolution. The only thing they can do is re-render the movie. That's like making a brand new master from all the source material, including all the computer models, etc. That would be insanely time consuming.

HDW-F900, developed by Sony and Panavision, a digital camera using an HD digital 24-frame system ... The cameras record in the 16:9 HDCAM format (1080p), although the image was cropped to a 2.40:1 widescreen ratio. The area above and below the 2.40 extraction area was available for Lucas to reframe the picture as necessary in post-production

That 2.4 ratio crop means there are only 1920x800 pixels of data in the final master cut. Anything that was rendered for the movie could be re-rendered at higher resolutions if all the source data is still archived, so it's possible to make a new master at any resolution for any part of the film that doesn't contain only filmed content.

The choice to film these movies fully digitally was completely asinine. The technology wasn't there yet to make the result a viable long-term medium back in 2000. They essentially filmed at the then-upcoming consumer-grade resolution. Everyone knew that HD would be in an overwhelming number of homes within 5 years. They could have still done all the digital rendering and digital post work and done all principal photography on film - that would let them make new scans at any time. Which is still a ton of work.

 

[hokietwo]

I am no expert on movie making but could they not remaster these in 4k so it looks exactly like it was shot in 4k? I was hoping to get the entire series in UHD next year.

Lucas already went and ruined all digital as well. Because he shot in 2K for episode II and III they will look like poop when upscaled to 4K since he was so stern on his position and went 100% digital with those. Filming them in digital 2K they have maxed out the picture and upscaling will only decrease the picture quality.


This.

The source is digital and maxed out at 1080p (and cropped), so you can't pull any more detail from it. You can only upscale it. This isn't the same thing as rescanning original negatives at a higher resolution.



That 2.4 ratio crop means there are only 1920x800 pixels of data in the final master cut.

 

[OutLander]

His lightsaber with those 2 side blades is an impractical design. And his mask.....Ren, Darth Revan called and wants his mask back.

 

[ZE_501]

His lightsaber with those 2 side blades is an impractical design. And his mask.....Ren, Darth Revan called and wants his mask back.

The mask doesn't bug me because I have no idea who Darth Revan is. By now I've seen something that looks vaguely Kylo-like, but whatever. Mostly the pattern on the front looks like it was based off something vaguely Celt, maybe. The two side blades....I've been bombarded by so many TFA images by now I'm getting used to them, as was their intention.

Thing is, the OT designs are such a part of my childhood I can't remember them ever being new. Makes sense that TFA would be harder to accept.

My memory of the lead-up to Phantom Menace is sketchy, but I think I thought the art and costumes revealed looked really exciting.

 

[Pixelpiper]

The mask doesn't bug me because I have no idea who Darth Revan is.

No "STAR WARS" fan does. Maybe fans of video games or comics, or young adult books do. I don't know either.

 

[Rambler]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Pixelpiper again

 

[OutLander]

No "STAR WARS" fan does. Maybe fans of video games or comics, or young adult books do. I don't know either.

 

[zeiss]

The source is digital and maxed out at 1080p (and cropped), so you can't pull any more detail from it. You can only upscale it. This isn't the same thing as rescanning original negatives at a higher resolution. The only thing they can do is re-render the movie. That's like making a brand new master from all the source material, including all the computer models, etc. That would be insanely time consuming.



That 2.4 ratio crop means there are only 1920x800 pixels of data in the final master cut. Anything that was rendered for the movie could be re-rendered at higher resolutions if all the source data is still archived, so it's possible to make a new master at any resolution for any part of the film that doesn't contain only filmed content.

The choice to film these movies fully digitally was completely asinine. The technology wasn't there yet to make the result a viable long-term medium back in 2000. They essentially filmed at the then-upcoming consumer-grade resolution. Everyone knew that HD would be in an overwhelming number of homes within 5 years. They could have still done all the digital rendering and digital post work and done all principal photography on film - that would let them make new scans at any time. Which is still a ton of work.

I did not know this. That is absolutely shortsighted of Lucas.

 

[FREEKDOM]

No "STAR WARS" fan does. Maybe fans of video games or comics, or young adult books do. I don't know either.

'STAR WARS' has grown so much bigger than a few films. There are SO many great characters and stories outside of the movies.

Maybe you guys should go and look some of them up, you may be surprised with what you find.

 

[Jack Bauer]

His lightsaber with those 2 side blades is an impractical design. And his mask.....Ren, Darth Revan called and wants his mask back.

Without getting too spoilerish, I will say both the saber and mask have significance to them, the side blades have a functional reason for being there. The mask has a history, the reason it has a Celtic/Medieval look to the design is explained, in fact TFA more than any other SW film before has a lot of Medieval influences in its designs. .

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Revan > Ren

 

[OutLander]

Without getting too spoilerish, I will say both the saber and mask have significance to them, the side blades have a functional reason for being there. The mask has a history, the reason it has a Celtic/Medieval look to the design is explained, in fact TFA more than any other SW film before has a lot of Medieval influences in its designs. .

I'll see the movie and hope it is good. I just feel design choices were made to sell product first and foremost. I know it happens, but don't make it obvious and hit me over the head with it. Unfortunately (for fans, not shareholders) Disney likes to squeeze every last penny out of their properties, and we may be witnessing the ultimate whoring out of Star Wars.