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[ZE_501]

[...]He could care less about Lucas' vision, [which ironically translates to] he could care less about Star Wars.

Nonsense. Once a piece of work is out in the world, it takes on a life of its own.

The author may say "this is my definitive vision" but the audience is under no obligation to swallow a body of work entire.

I know X band wrote Y number of songs but I don't have to like them all.




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[Pixelpiper]

He could care less ... he could care less

Senseless both times. "Couldn't care less" is what you should have written. Such a basic mistake and you made it twice in a single sentence. Literacy is apparently not your friend.

The author may say "this is my definitive vision" but the audience is under no obligation to swallow a body of work entire.

Didn't you see the interview where George Lucas claimed to have based all his movies on the Bible? It's take them all or take none of them, you can't pick and choose the parts you like. Even the Pope knows this.

 

[Motuxmen]

I posted some new pics in a photo catch all from Asia Pop in the marvel thread.

 

[cmiller99]

Yoda was glorious with a lightsaber, as Lucas always intended him to be.

Sorry, but Yoda was a muppet. How did Lucas intend for his puppet hands to wield a lightsaber?

 

[SNIKT1950]

Sorry, but Yoda was a muppet. How did Lucas intend for his puppet hands to wield a lightsaber?

The reason Lucas couldn't start with TPM back in the 70s was because of stuff like that. The Technology didn't allow for most of those ideas to be properly realized. At one point they even considered not using Yoda in ESB because they were afraid the puppet wouldn't work. CGI allowed Lucas to fulfill his vision for a pre-Empire world where the Jedi were at their prime.

Yoda was always intended to be a master swordsman.

 

[Pixelpiper]

Wow, so now Lucas wrote (or conceived of) the prequel films before the original three. Hmm... I'll have to call George up and let him in on the news, I'm sure it will come as a huge surprise to him. This thread gets funnier by the moment as it's always amusing when one lone gunman is pulling rabbits out of his hat (that's a polite way of saying something else).

There's one reason why we see the crazy stunt moves in the PT. It was George playing with his toys - CGI, where anything's possible - but, like everything else in life, just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should.

 

[The Iron Koob]

Senseless both times. "Couldn't care less" is what you should have written. Such a basic mistake and you made it twice in a single sentence. Literacy is apparently not your friend.



Didn't you see the interview where George Lucas claimed to have based all his movies on the Bible? It's take them all or take none of them, you can't pick and choose the parts you like. Even the Pope knows this.

no offense but the actual line is I could care less but I'd have to try. Most people who use it don't know that and neither do the people that correct them

 

[Pixelpiper]

no offense but the actual line is I could care less but I'd have to try.

You have to, without exception, use the entire phrase if that's what you want to write. Otherwise is has always been and will always be, "I couldn't care less" which implies you don't care. Without the negative it implies you do care. Back to the full phrase. If you have to try to care less, it implies you care at least a little bit - it should be no effort to not care at all in this case.

 

[SNIKT1950]

Wow, so now Lucas wrote (or conceived of) the prequel films before the original three. Hmm... I'll have to call George up and let him in on the news, I'm sure it will come as a huge surprise to him. This thread gets funnier by the moment as it's always amusing when one lone gunman is pulling rabbits out of his hat (that's a polite way of saying something else).

There's one reason why we see the crazy stunt moves in the PT. It was George playing with his toys - CGI, where anything's possible - but, like everything else in life, just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should.

Glad you find my posts amusing, guy. I find yours annoying and completely tasteless.

Also, you WISH you had one ounce of George Lucas' creative vision. Its pathetic reading your egotistical concept of Star Wars and bashing of Lucas. I love it when internet cretins think themselves more intelligent than established filmmakers. You're nobody, bruh. Nobody.

 

[The Mike]

Um....how about that Kylo Ren? I'll probably order this as long as the character holds in the film.

 

[cmiller99]

Glad you find my posts amusing, guy. I find yours annoying and completely tasteless.

Also, you WISH you had one ounce of George Lucas' creative vision. Its pathetic reading your egotistical concept of Star Wars and bashing of Lucas. I love it when internet cretins think themselves more intelligent than established filmmakers. You're nobody, bruh. Nobody.

It's true though. Lucas changes his account of how he created Star Wars every time he's asked. He probably wasn't even planning as far ahead as Empire when he wrote Star Wars.

 

[SNIKT1950]

Um....how about that Kylo Ren? I'll probably order this as long as the character holds in the film.

Got him on PO since the day he went up. Already love the character.

 

[SNIKT1950]

It's true though. Lucas changes his account of how he created Star Wars every time he's asked. He probably wasn't even planning as far ahead as Empire when he wrote Star Wars.

According to Mark Hamill during the shoot of ANH, Lucas had already plotted out the story for I-VI as one saga and had ideas for VII-XII as the second.

 

[cmiller99]

If I remember correctly he just told him that he had more trilogies planned.

 

[SNIKT1950]

If I remember correctly he just told him that he had more trilogies planned.

He specifically told him he had completed the first six as one story and that halfway throughout the second story (Episode X) Luke would pass on "Excalibur" to the next generation. He estimated that passing of the torch would be shot in the 2010s.

 

[cmiller99]

But that doesn't equate to knowing that Yoda would be a master swordsman twenty years in advance. Do you have a source for him saying that?

 

[preeny101]

Wow, this thread really went sideways. Biblical references, grammar police, and theories about the origins of Star Wars. Kylo who?

 

[Wor-Gar]

I don't think anyone who wasn't at least 12 years old in 1977 should be saying anything about what Lucas said or meant, unless that person was part of the active pop culture that put STAR WARS on the map and read voraciously the magazines and articles and interviews of the day.

History is always distorted by the ignorant.

 

[Darkseed]

Wow, this thread really went sideways. Biblical references, grammar police, and theories about the origins of Star Wars. Kylo who?

Certain folks enjoy pissing contests.....it is throughout the SW threads. I'll wait for more pics etc. Even without seeing the movie, easily one of my most anticipated characters.

 

[Asta]

He probably wasn't even planning as far ahead as Empire when he wrote Star Wars.

He didn't know how well Star Wars would fare, and since Alan Dean Foster had done such a good job fleshing out Lucas' screenplay for Star Wars in his 1976 novelization, Lucas asked him to write a low budget sequel: Splinter of the Mind's Eye (1978), drawn from concepts discarded from the original.

When Star Wars did well, Mind's Eye was abandoned for The Empire Strikes Back.

As for Lucas having the whole story planned out beforehand, Alan Dean Foster was surprised to discover in ROTJ that Luke and Leia were brother and sister, since he'd written them as potential lovers! Something Lucas had in mind himself considering the first meeting between them on the Death Star, and that kiss in Empire.