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I hate that with DVDs! You buy the 2 disc version and then a few months later they come out with the extended versions. And you don't always know about it. I did with The Lord of the Rings DVDs, so I waited till the extended ones were released. I have quite a few doubles in my DVD collection.

Me, too but that is a choice we make. I buy the extended director's cut with bonus features and deleted scenes plus unrated European version BECAUSE I LOVE THAT STUFF!!! It is geared towards people like us and "completists". I also have to have the DVD the day it's released with the full knowledge that a vamped up version is right down the pike. It sucks but this is the business we have chosen.:lol
 
Me, too but that is a choice we make. I buy the extended director's cut with bonus features and deleted scenes plus unrated European version BECAUSE I LOVE THAT STUFF!!! It is geared towards people like us and "completists". I also have to have the DVD the day it's released with the full knowledge that a vamped up version is right down the pike. It sucks but this is the business we have chosen.:lol

This is me. And I want the lenticular sleeves or even just the shiny cardboard slipcover that's on the first releases of a movie. I don't want to wait a few months when you can get a stripped down version for 10 bucks.

I've got the new Indiana Jones movie pre-ordered on bestbuy.com so I can get that Sideshow skull, knowing full well that someone else, like Target or Walmart is gonna have a bonus disc or something with their's and I'll have to get that too. I'm :sick
 
This is me. And I want the lenticular sleeves or even just the shiny cardboard slipcover that's on the first releases of a movie. I don't want to wait a few months when you can get a stripped down version for 10 bucks.

I've got the new Indiana Jones movie pre-ordered on bestbuy.com so I can get that Sideshow skull, knowing full well that someone else, like Target or Walmart is gonna have a bonus disc or something with their's and I'll have to get that too. I'm :sick

No...you're:wacky
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Normally I'd agree with you, but the thing that irks me about HT and their variants is, at least for me the variants feel like "completed" figures. The Cleaner Kit Wolf is what HT should've originally released. Period. I understand the variants with differences in paint.. but variants with JUST differences when it comes to accessories are strictly for companies to rip people off. And all companies do it.. but that excuse doesn't make it right. DVD releases are getting to be like that as well. You pick up the super ultimate DVD edition and 3 months later another one with more features comes out. It's garbage.

Lord, is it ever!! :dump Hot Toys has got nothin' on the DVD industry!!

I agree...I'd love to have a 'definitive' version of some of the preds with lots of accessories, but not sure this marketing strategy will change anytime soon. I'd definitely expect to see this trend continue.
 
the reason I'm not in for the Cleaner version is... I want the full shuriken.. not just the colapsed.

I'm on the wait list for the regular Wolf. :(
 
I got mine a couple of days ago and started writing something brief about it that blew up into this, :lol I'll be comparing the two versions and giving my thoughts...


Packaging is pretty innovative. I like that it's smaller, more square, and probably cheaper and easier to ship. And I didn't have a problem reassembling it as much as I thought. I don't like the way it looks however, I prefer the look of the original packaging. The pictures are also fewer, smaller, and harder to use as reference for assembling.

The additions:
  • -The scarred mask is just barely different than the original, I can't see any reason to prefer or dislike this one over the other. They did paint the red lights in the mask this time around, but not something that's really important.
  • -The blue liquid container and it's bandoleer pouch is the same feeling as the mask, it just doesn't add or subtract anything to the figure. I could live with or without this added feature, although it does enhance the base.
  • -The hand Plasmacaster looks great. It adds a lot to any pose and is really unique amongst other Predator weapons in that it's the most like a Human weapon. It'll draw attention to him in and amongst the other Preds. They did however paint it more this time around which is unusual that they didn't paint the shoulder mounted Plasmacasters for either release. Not sure if it's more accurate to have it painted or unpainted though, but one of the versions is wrong.
  • -The Cleaner kit is nicely done, I like that they made it articulate as much as it did in the film. I also didn't know that the bottom and top halves slide apart and together, nice attention to detail. I think that the size is off though, I thought it was much larger in the movie but I may be wrong about that. Only thing I don't like is how poorly it attaches to his back. I would've liked a better more solid connection.
  • -The Syringe is nicely designed, though it's not something that I'll ever display.
  • -The Sculpted base is odd in that it's not something I really like as much as I thought I would. With it's sculpted foot indentations and limited standing area, it kind of forces you to limit the Pred's pose more so then the regular Pred bases. I also think it's very odd for the Pred to be standing in the Alien's blood and guts; you'd think Wolf would be smarter then that.
  • -The Mandible posing options is fantastic. I don't understand why Hot Toy's can't do this with every Pred they release. Forcing us to either buy two versions or selling the first release stinks. It shouldn't cost them all that much to include the second set. I'm glad Sideshow doesn't do this, it'd be like forcing us to buy a second version of Bespin Luke for his ignited lightsaber. I hope Hot Toys stops making two versions with future Pred releases; the new Lost Hunter kit is a welcome step in that direction and I hope it continues with Predator 1.
  • -Also there has been only one major improvement on the first release, the body netting is woven with a crotch portion instead of forcing us to tie it down with an additional string. Nice that they're trying to improve every release. They unfortunately didn't fix the issues the first release had with the lack of a swivel joint at the base of the articulating arm on the shoulder mounted Plasmacaster that would allow it to swivel outward, the loin cloth being plastic and having no way to secure it to the waist or under the crotch to prevent it from floating up when the legs are bent, I would've also liked them to improve the body's shoulder pieces because the two halves separate and feel like if too much torque when turning the arms is applied could break the shoulders. Both versions are like that so it's not a fluke as I had thought.
  • I also got the Sideshow exclusive with the Chestburster. I love the sculpt, paint, and it's poseable wire tail. I'd like to see Hot Toy's release an accessory pack with a Chestburster, a Facehugger, an Alien 1 Egg, and even a Chestburster with legs sometime in the future.

The subtractions from the first release:
  • -I don't like the lack of an extended whip. It adds a lot of posing options that it's exclusion would probably piss off people that missed the first version. I can't see why they didn't included it.
  • -The single shoulder cannon is also puzzling because the bracket is there on his right shoulder for a second one. They could've also included either a second shoulder Plasmacaster that you could remove if you wish, or included the articulating arm that you could switch out with the handle on the a handgun Plasmacaster. Many ways to do this.
Another thing I should mention is that the Cleaner Wolf Pred has the better head paint job between the two. A bit more depth and detail on this second release but I think this differs for every figure.
Overall I like the different posing options either version adds with the Hand Plasmacaster, Chestburster, and base on one; and the Extended Whip and duel Plasmacasters on the other. I just feel they could've done a single all encompassing version at a additional $10-$15 and made everyone happy.
They have enough differences between the two versions that I can get two different looking Preds so that's a good incentive to buy both versions (especially the Sideshow exclusive version). Quite happy that I got him.
 
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I got mine a couple of days ago and started writing something brief about it that blew up into this, :lol I'll be comparing the two versions and giving my thoughts...


Packaging is pretty innovative. I like that it's smaller, more square, and probably cheaper and easier to ship. And I didn't have a problem reassembling it as much as I thought. I don't like the way it looks however, I prefer the look of the original packaging. The pictures are also fewer, smaller, and harder to use as reference for assembling.

The additions:
  • -The scarred mask is just barely different than the original, I can't see any reason to prefer or dislike this one over the other. They did paint the red lights in the mask this time around, but not something that's really important.
  • -The blue liquid container and it's bandoleer pouch is the same feeling as the mask, it just doesn't add or subtract anything to the figure. I could live with or without this added feature, although it does enhance the base.
  • -The hand Plasmacaster looks great. It adds a lot to any pose and is really unique amongst other Predator weapons in that it's the most like a Human weapon. It'll draw attention to him in and amongst the other Preds. They did however paint it more this time around which is unusual that they didn't paint the shoulder mounted Plasmacasters for either release. Not sure if it's more accurate to have it painted or unpainted though, but one of the versions is wrong.
  • -The Cleaner kit is nicely done, I like that they made it articulate as much as it did in the film. I also didn't know that the bottom and top halves slide apart and together, nice attention to detail. I think that the size is off though, I thought it was much larger in the movie but I may be wrong about that. Only thing I don't like is how poorly it attaches to his back. I would've liked a better more solid connection.
  • -The Syringe is nicely designed, though it's not something that I'll ever display.
  • -The Sculpted base is odd in that it's not something I really like as much as I thought I would. With it's sculpted foot indentations and limited standing area, it kind of forces you to limit the Pred's pose more so then the regular Pred bases. I also think it's very odd for the Pred to be standing in the Alien's blood and guts; you'd think Wolf would be smarter then that.
  • -The Mandible posing options is fantastic. I don't understand why Hot Toy's can't do this with every Pred they release. Forcing us to either buy two versions or selling the first release stinks. It shouldn't cost them all that much to include the second set. I'm glad Sideshow doesn't do this, it'd be like forcing us to buy a second version of Bespin Luke for his ignited lightsaber. I hope Hot Toys stops making two versions with future Pred releases; the new Lost Hunter kit is a welcome step in that direction and I hope it continues with Predator 1.
  • -Also there has been only one major improvement on the first release, the body netting is woven with a crotch portion instead of forcing us to tie it down with an additional string. Nice that they're trying to improve every release. They unfortunately didn't fix the issues the first release had with the lack of a swivel joint at the base of the articulating arm on the shoulder mounted Plasmacaster that would allow it to swivel outward, the loin cloth being plastic and having no way to secure it to the waist or under the crotch to prevent it from floating up when the legs are bent, I would've also liked them to improve the body's shoulder pieces because the two halves separate and feel like if too much torque when turning the arms is applied could break the shoulders. Both versions are like that so it's not a fluke as I had thought.
  • I also got the Sideshow exclusive with the Chestburster. I love the sculpt, paint, and it's poseable wire tail. I'd like to see Hot Toy's release an accessory pack with a Chestburster, a Facehugger, an Alien 1 Egg, and even a Chestburster with legs sometime in the future.

The subtractions from the first release:
  • -I don't like the lack of an extended whip. It adds a lot of posing options that it's exclusion would probably piss off people that missed the first version. I can't see why they didn't included it.
  • -The single shoulder cannon is also puzzling because the bracket is there on his right shoulder for a second one. They could've also included either a second shoulder Plasmacaster that you could remove if you wish, or included the articulating arm that you could switch out with the handle on the a handgun Plasmacaster. Many ways to do this.
Another thing I should mention is that the Cleaner Wolf Pred has the better head paint job between the two. A bit more depth and detail on this second release but I think this differs for every figure.
Overall I like the different posing options either version adds with the Hand Plasmacaster, Chestburster, and base on one; and the Extended Whip and duel Plasmacasters on the other. I just feel they could've done a single all encompassing version at a additional $10-$15 and made everyone happy.
They have enough differences between the two versions that I can get two different looking Preds so that's a good incentive to buy both versions (especially the Sideshow exclusive version). Quite happy that I got him.


Great points made there :) I agree with everythig you said.

And I like mine too! Even though I have the regular as well :)
 
Got my Cleaner today from Alter Ego, thanks a lot Marc! (if you're on the boards). I really love the packaging change - Unneeded, but it's neat how each of the 4 panels opens individually.

All I wanted was the head though! I've got it boxed back up, with the head switched out for the original Wolf's head. Still a complete figure, just no interchangeable mandibles.
 
Got my Cleaner today from Alter Ego, thanks a lot Marc! (if you're on the boards). I really love the packaging change - Unneeded, but it's neat how each of the 4 panels opens individually.

All I wanted was the head though! I've got it boxed back up, with the head switched out for the original Wolf's head. Still a complete figure, just no interchangeable mandibles.
so, you're going to send it back, and try to fool Marc?:lol


Congrats bro.
 
I need some help...someone broke a peg on a predator wrist recently and posted a pic of it. Anyone remember where that was?
 
I got the pics.
See, the thing is, Hot Toys made it so that each ball joint can only fit for that given hand(I think) and I need it for, not the hand pictured, but the hand in the pic below.
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