HOT TOYS : MMS DX 12 - The Dark Knight Rises - BATMAN / BRUCE WAYNE Full Specs & Pics

[optical20]

Re: HOT TOYS : MMS DX 12 - The Dark Knight Rises - BATMAN / BRUCE WAYNE Full Specs &

No more cartoon-y than the Begins suit and much less cartoony than anything in the Avengers.







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I'll try that, thanks for the tip. Hopefully that works.

 

[Remy]

Re: HOT TOYS : MMS DX 12 - The Dark Knight Rises - BATMAN / BRUCE WAYNE Full Specs &

Not true. The armor does serve a purpose. It's body armor first and it's theatricality second.

"Hey, what is that?"

"Some kinda body armor, he's human after all".


The 1989 suit is what started the idea that he wears full body, segmented armor decked out in black. They used rubber then, and Schumacher and Nolan followed. He wasn't supposed to look like an armored, bat inspired motorbike SWAT guy with a helmet. He's supposed to look like a giant, 6 foot Man-Bat. What is going to strike fear into criminals and convince them more? The MAN that is clearly wearing heavily paneled armor with these massive football player shoulder pads (with a nice, velvet looking cape to boot) or the man that is wearing an animal looking suit that looks like a cross between a man and a beast with a leathery, skin like cape (that actually lifts his "wings" like a Bat for the full effect)?

It makes perfect sense that Batman would make his armor plating look like actual physique as opposed to armored plating. Why would he want his enemies to know he's not only fully decked out in armor, but also merely a mortal man that can't take a bullet or knife? When they see all these panels, the knee pads, the elbow pads, the shoulder pads, the neck brace, what message does that send? That the guy is vulnerable. Compare that to the guy that appears to be wearing nothing more than a target and a belt that EATS bullets, falls "dead", and then seemingly appears to rise as a ghost from the dead due to his hidden armor.

The segmented muscle armor makes sense. It still serves the same purpose the TDK armor has with it's protection and bullet proof functionality, the plus side is that it looks like he's not wearing armor at all. If anything, the TDK armor is "cheesy" and frivolous from a flourish perspective because it's so in your face. The Begins suit got the point across and retained the animal quality whereas the TDK suit just went into overkill. It's like a Batman-soldier toy variant where the armor is the focal point, not the Bat aesthetics. The practically hidden Bat emblem on the "Bat bra" of the TDK suit is proof of this. It's all about function, not style, when the suit should be a little of both. It also makes more sense that the 89 suit's vulnerability points are on the sides and back behind the cape as opposed to, you know, all the vulnerability open points those jigsaw panels create on the TDK suit.



It also helps that the '89 suit is a helluva alot closer to this,

Than these,

It's also the only one (along with the Returns suit) that makes the cape and neck area look more organic with the neck than the others that use the silly cape clips and Superman cape tucks. The '89 cape and cowl look like it's a part of him, like those are his wings. The others? He's clearly wearing a cape.

Agree completely man. For me personally, My favorite suit is batman begins and batman returns, because not only only does it serve its purpose of looking kinda scary if you would run into a character like this in a dark alley, the armor serves its purpose also protecting batman.
What I love about the returns is that it's more refined from the first suit.
And begins, he just looks like a scary massive beast.
I initially disliked the tdkr suit.
I agree it completely lost its meaning as dressing up as a scary looking creature in the first place.
The tdkr just looked like a high tech suit like in GI joe except it has bat ears.
I will admit though that the tdkr suit eventually grew on me, but its more because I'm biased and liked the movie.
But as far a batman suit should be, it is weak.

 

[DiFabio]

Re: HOT TOYS : MMS DX 12 - The Dark Knight Rises - BATMAN / BRUCE WAYNE Full Specs &

Yeah.

I mean, I don't even hate the TDK suit by any means. I dig it. But it doesn't make any of the previous suits look like inferior "cheesy" crap. The only strong aspects of it for me are those gauntlets (that could be considered extremely gimmicky and "cheesy" in their own right) and the fact that he can turn his head (which sacrifices the striking silhouette image the character has and gives him this bulbous bobble head).

A black rubber armor suit that looks like muscle is just as "realistic" as a black rubber armor suit that looks like a complicated jigsaw puzzle. Half the panels on the suit are completely unnecessary and hardly serve a function other than looking like gaudy kevlar strips. Those 20 something rubber panels on the leggings of the TDK suit? It's completely unnecessary. The only movement in the legs that would be hindered by armor is the knee, thigh, etc. There should be 3 or 4 panels at the most, including knee pads.

And yeah, the Returns suit and Begins suit are sort of the "happy medium" between the organic 89' armor and the "fake tatical" TDK armor.

 

[DiFabio]

Re: HOT TOYS : MMS DX 12 - The Dark Knight Rises - BATMAN / BRUCE WAYNE Full Specs &

Yup.

I mean, I don't even hate the TDK suit by any means. I dig it. But it doesn't make any of the previous suits look like inferior "cheesy" crap. The only strong aspects of it for me are those gauntlets (that could be considered extremely gimmicky and "cheesy" in their own right) and the fact that he can turn his head (which sacrifices the striking silhouette image the character has and gives him this bulbous bobble head).

A black rubber armor suit that looks like muscle is just as "realistic" as a black rubber armor suit that looks like a complicated jigsaw puzzle. They're all rubber armor. Half the panels on the suit are completely unnecessary and hardly serve a function other than looking like gaudy kevlar strips. Those 20 something rubber panels on the leggings of the TDK suit? It's completely unnecessary. The only movement in the legs that would be hindered by armor is the knee, thigh, crotch etc. There should be 3 or 4 panels at the most, including knee pads.

And yeah, the Returns suit and Begins suit are sort of the "happy medium" between the organic 89' armor and the "fake tactical" TDK armor.

 

[Hologram AI]

Re: HOT TOYS : MMS DX 12 - The Dark Knight Rises - BATMAN / BRUCE WAYNE Full Specs &

Not true. The armor does serve a purpose. It's body armor first and it's theatricality second.

"Hey, what is that?"

"Some kinda body armor, he's human after all".


The 1989 suit is what started the idea that he wears full body, segmented armor decked out in black. They used rubber then, and Schumacher and Nolan followed. He wasn't supposed to look like an armored, bat inspired motorbike SWAT guy with a helmet. He's supposed to look like a giant, 6 foot Man-Bat. What is going to strike fear into criminals and convince them more? The MAN that is clearly wearing heavily paneled armor with these massive football player shoulder pads (with a nice, velvet looking cape to boot) or the man that is wearing an animal looking suit that looks like a cross between a man and a beast with a leathery, skin like cape (that actually lifts his "wings" like a Bat for the full effect)?

It makes perfect sense that Batman would make his armor plating look like actual physique as opposed to armored plating. Why would he want his enemies to know he's not only fully decked out in armor, but also merely a mortal man that can't take a bullet or knife? When they see all these panels, the knee pads, the elbow pads, the shoulder pads, the neck brace, what message does that send? That the guy is vulnerable. Compare that to the guy that appears to be wearing nothing more than a target and a belt that EATS bullets, falls "dead", and then seemingly appears to rise as a ghost from the dead due to his hidden armor.

The segmented muscle armor makes sense. It still serves the same purpose the TDK armor has with it's protection and bullet proof functionality, the plus side is that it looks like he's not wearing armor at all. If anything, the TDK armor is "cheesy" and frivolous from a flourish perspective because it's so in your face. The Begins suit got the point across and retained the animal quality whereas the TDK suit just went into overkill. It's like a Batman-soldier toy variant where the armor is the focal point, not the Bat aesthetics. The practically hidden Bat emblem on the "Bat bra" of the TDK suit is proof of this. It's all about function, not style, when the suit should be a little of both. It also makes more sense that the 89 suit's vulnerability points are on the sides and back behind the cape as opposed to, you know, all the vulnerability open points those jigsaw panels create on the TDK suit.

It also helps that the '89 suit is a helluva alot closer to this,

It's also the only one (along with the Returns suit) that makes the cape and neck area look more organic with the neck than the others that use the silly cape clips and Superman cape tucks. The '89 cape and cowl look like it's a part of him, like those are his wings. The others? He's clearly wearing a cape.

Completely agree and a great read.

That's actually why I love the Arkham Batsuit. It's even more of a perfect medium between a modern Batsuit and the classic to me. It of course leans towards more of the classic Batsuit but it's done so properly that even the undies don't look that ridiculous. Has the connected cowl and cape, chest piece is one piece while looking like it can take a bullet and the overall aesthetic is quite pleasing to the eye. My only complaint with the suit would be the extremely long bunny ears but that's something that can be easily overlooked personally.

Curious to hear your thoughts on the Arkham suit.

 

[The Iron Koob]

Re: HOT TOYS : MMS DX 12 - The Dark Knight Rises - BATMAN / BRUCE WAYNE Full Specs &

The only thing I don't like about the Arkham Batman is that he's way tooooo buff. I wish he looked just a little bit more realistic

 

[Remy]

Re: HOT TOYS : MMS DX 12 - The Dark Knight Rises - BATMAN / BRUCE WAYNE Full Specs &

Yup.

I mean, I don't even hate the TDK suit by any means. I dig it. But it doesn't make any of the previous suits look like inferior "cheesy" crap. The only strong aspects of it for me are those gauntlets (that could be considered extremely gimmicky and "cheesy" in their own right) and the fact that he can turn his head (which sacrifices the striking silhouette image the character has and gives him this bulbous bobble head).

A black rubber armor suit that looks like muscle is just as "realistic" as a black rubber armor suit that looks like a complicated jigsaw puzzle. They're all rubber armor. Half the panels on the suit are completely unnecessary and hardly serve a function other than looking like gaudy kevlar strips. Those 20 something rubber panels on the leggings of the TDK suit? It's completely unnecessary. The only movement in the legs that would be hindered by armor is the knee, thigh, crotch etc. There should be 3 or 4 panels at the most, including knee pads.

And yeah, the Returns suit and Begins suit are sort of the "happy medium" between the organic 89' armor and the "fake tactical" TDK armor.

Agree completely.

 

[Leon 911]

Re: HOT TOYS : MMS DX 12 - The Dark Knight Rises - BATMAN / BRUCE WAYNE Full Specs &

So that brings us to that question and it may not have a simple answer. What suit among all the movies has that "edge" to make it the best suit. Begins, tdk, tdkr, returns or 89 ... And again not cause of theory, philosphy, protection etc etc. Just pure class act look / asthetics ... Lets see where we land on this cause i have been curiously thinking about my fav one too!


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[Double J]

Re: HOT TOYS : MMS DX 12 - The Dark Knight Rises - BATMAN / BRUCE WAYNE Full Specs &

My 2 favorites of all time are 89 and TDKR suits. 89 Because I love how the cape and cowl come together. And TDK suit. I like how it has a high tech and modern look to it.

 

[The Iron Koob]

Re: HOT TOYS : MMS DX 12 - The Dark Knight Rises - BATMAN / BRUCE WAYNE Full Specs &

I really liked the Begins suit in the context that it came in (realism) and I really just like '89 and Returns equally because they're so different. I don't care for the '89 symbol

 

[Ninjaknight]

Re: HOT TOYS : MMS DX 12 - The Dark Knight Rises - BATMAN / BRUCE WAYNE Full Specs &

So that brings us to that question and it may not have a simple answer. What suit among all the movies has that "edge" to make it the best suit. Begins, tdk, tdkr, returns or 89 ... And again not cause of theory, philosphy, protection etc etc. Just pure class act look / asthetics ... Lets see where we land on this cause i have been curiously thinking about my fav one too!


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Begins hands down my fave suit! I really hope in the future HT will look into improving and making a DX!

 

[Maglor]

Re: HOT TOYS : MMS DX 12 - The Dark Knight Rises - BATMAN / BRUCE WAYNE Full Specs &

Not true. The armor does serve a purpose. It's body armor first and it's theatricality second.

"Hey, what is that?"

"Some kinda body armor, he's human after all".


The 1989 suit is what started the idea that he wears full body, segmented armor decked out in black. They used rubber then, and Schumacher and Nolan followed. He wasn't supposed to look like an armored, bat inspired motorbike SWAT guy with a helmet. He's supposed to look like a giant, 6 foot Man-Bat. What is going to strike fear into criminals and convince them more? The MAN that is clearly wearing heavily paneled armor with these massive football player shoulder pads (with a nice, velvet looking cape to boot) or the man that is wearing an animal looking suit that looks like a cross between a man and a beast with a leathery, skin like cape (that actually lifts his "wings" like a Bat for the full effect)?

It makes perfect sense that Batman would make his armor plating look like actual physique as opposed to armored plating. Why would he want his enemies to know he's not only fully decked out in armor, but also merely a mortal man that can't take a bullet or knife? When they see all these panels, the knee pads, the elbow pads, the shoulder pads, the neck brace, what message does that send? That the guy is vulnerable. Compare that to the guy that appears to be wearing nothing more than a target and a belt that EATS bullets, falls "dead", and then seemingly appears to rise as a ghost from the dead due to his hidden armor.

The segmented muscle armor makes sense. It still serves the same purpose the TDK armor has with it's protection and bullet proof functionality, the plus side is that it looks like he's not wearing armor at all. If anything, the TDK armor is "cheesy" and frivolous from a flourish perspective because it's so in your face. The Begins suit got the point across and retained the animal quality whereas the TDK suit just went into overkill. It's like a Batman-soldier toy variant where the armor is the focal point, not the Bat aesthetics. The practically hidden Bat emblem on the "Bat bra" of the TDK suit is proof of this. It's all about function, not style, when the suit should be a little of both. It also makes more sense that the 89 suit's vulnerability points are on the sides and back behind the cape as opposed to, you know, all the vulnerability open points those jigsaw panels create on the TDK suit.



It also helps that the '89 suit is a helluva alot closer to this,

Than these,

It's also the only one (along with the Returns suit) that makes the cape and neck area look more organic with the neck than the others that use the silly cape clips and Superman cape tucks. The '89 cape and cowl look like it's a part of him, like those are his wings. The others? He's clearly wearing a cape.

Epic post is epic.

 

[Pixelpiper]

Re: HOT TOYS : MMS DX 12 - The Dark Knight Rises - BATMAN / BRUCE WAYNE Full Specs &

You can write an entire book on why something was created to look out of place, cheesy, silly and toy-like. (Because that bright yellow oval and belt really sold the illusion that it wasn't just a dude in a stupid-looking costume.) But at the end of the day, the why isn't so important - just the result. Besides, the only why that determined what we all saw on screen was Tim Burton and his costume and marketing people.

If you prefer that look, more power to you. I personally think it looks very silly today indeed. And no need to bring up Marvel movies either, most of which are extremely sub-par in many facets, not strictly costuming.

 

[Double J]

Re: HOT TOYS : MMS DX 12 - The Dark Knight Rises - BATMAN / BRUCE WAYNE Full Specs &

I don't think there is a right or wrong when it comes to the movie Bat suits. Its all about what you like in the end. I see alot of people like the Begins Suit. To me it's very boring looking and plan. But thats just my opinion. Some people like the more comic book style suit. But lets be honest. Do you really wanna see a guy run around in a gray and blue spandex suit?

 

[DiFabio]

Re: HOT TOYS : MMS DX 12 - The Dark Knight Rises - BATMAN / BRUCE WAYNE Full Specs &

You can write an entire book on why something was created to look out of place, cheesy, silly and toy-like. (Because that bright yellow oval and belt really sold the illusion that it wasn't just a dude in a stupid-looking costume.) But at the end of the day, the why isn't so important - just the result. Besides, the only why that determined what we all saw on screen was Tim Burton and his costume and marketing people.

If you prefer that look, more power to you. I personally think it looks very silly today indeed. And no need to bring up Marvel movies either, most of which are extremely sub-par in many facets, not strictly costuming.

And yet, the point of the symbol is to be noticed and the TDK one literally blends into the rest of the armor and is unnoticeable in most scenes, especially dark ones. It literally has no function and may as well not be on there at all. It's a shame really, because that sharp bat logo that he uses for all of his peripheral (and the logo for the actual trilogy) is really cool.

Atleast we actually saw bullet holes embedded in the symbol with the '89 suit. At least it's purpose was shown to us. The '89 suit is "cheesy", "silly" and "toy-like"? The TDK suit is practically a Kenner/Hasbro Batman variant figure in look and function with it's gimmicky shoot out arm blades and "back pack cape shooter". The suit makes Buzz Lightyear look like a puss. All it's missing are light up eyes and tactical belt straps for other accessories. Oh wait, it has those too.

 

[hnlee]

Re: HOT TOYS : MMS DX 12 - The Dark Knight Rises - BATMAN / BRUCE WAYNE Full Specs &

I don't think there is a right or wrong when it comes to the movie Bat suits. Its all about what you like in the end. I see alot of people like the Begins Suit. To me it's very boring looking and plan. But thats just my opinion. Some people like the more comic book style suit. But lets be honest. Do you really wanna see a guy run around in a gray and blue spandex suit?

And dark underwear?

But if the figure coming out, I still gonna have the comic classic especially Jim Lee edition SS one is coming tough!

 

[circle]

Re: HOT TOYS : MMS DX 12 - The Dark Knight Rises - BATMAN / BRUCE WAYNE Full Specs &

And yet, the point of the symbol is to be noticed and the TDK one literally blends into the rest of the armor and is unnoticeable in most scenes, especially dark ones. It literally has no function and may as well not be on there at all. It's a shame really, because that sharp bat logo that he uses for all of his peripheral (and the logo for the actual trilogy) is really cool.

Atleast we actually saw bullet holes embedded in the symbol with the '89 suit. At least it's purpose was shown to us. The '89 suit is "cheesy", "silly" and "toy-like"? The TDK suit is practically a Kenner/Hasbro Batman variant figure in look and function with it's gimmicky shoot out arm blades and "back pack cape shooter". The suit makes Buzz Lightyear look like a puss. All it's missing are light up eyes and tactical belt straps for other accessories. Oh wait, it has those too.

If you think that this

is more similar to this

than this

then you're clearly in denial.

And the reason the armor pieces are 'separate' in the TDKR armor is so that the wearer could move better. In the 89' suit I can't imagine how he would even bend down.

 

[Giantqtipz]

Re: HOT TOYS : MMS DX 12 - The Dark Knight Rises - BATMAN / BRUCE WAYNE Full Specs &

Thought you guys should see this, especially the part where the cowl rips when batman turns his head lol.

And bruce wayne has full neck mobility (lol)

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP9fFSc2Rx0[/ame]

 

[circle]

Re: HOT TOYS : MMS DX 12 - The Dark Knight Rises - BATMAN / BRUCE WAYNE Full Specs &

Thought you guys should see this, especially the part where the cowl rips when batman turns his head lol.

And bruce wayne has full neck mobility (lol)

Hahaha. The "and it almost works!" line got me

 

[Warden]

Re: HOT TOYS : MMS DX 12 - The Dark Knight Rises - BATMAN / BRUCE WAYNE Full Specs &

I actually really like the Clooney suit. The cowl especially reminds me of Neal Adams' art. In fact, the only suit I dont like is the Sonar suit from Forever.