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Go out and read the issue for yourself in Civil War Frontline issue 11.
What she makes Steve realize is that the his idea of america is dead.

You should pick it up. See what an ass Tony has become as well.

Oh yeah after watching the Movie I ended up ordering the figure. I all ready have an M4 all ready for him.

She blames Cap for paris hilton and high cholesterol :slap
 
I kind of like the chituari weapon..you most likely wont get it any other way..and a 1/6 M4 shouldnt be hard to find if you really want him with the rifle.
 
Preordered this from goodshipped. I love the expression, I think it brings the character to life (but obviously only works with 'actiony' poses.)
 
Oh yeah after watching the Movie I ended up ordering the figure. I all ready have an M4 all ready for him.

I kind of like the chituari weapon..you most likely wont get it any other way..and a 1/6 M4 shouldnt be hard to find if you really want him with the rifle.

I present to you the

Noveske Rifleworks N4 Diplomat


:lecture

NDiplomat.jpg


:lol:lol
 
Go out and read the issue for yourself in Civil War Frontline issue 11.
What she makes Steve realize is that the his idea of america is dead.

You should pick it up. See what an ass Tony has become as well.

Oh yeah after watching the Movie I ended up ordering the figure. I all ready have an M4 all ready for him.

In the words of a great man "A little "old fashioned" might be just what people need".

America suffers from an overindulgence in "ME" and what "I" deserve, instead of an emphasis on the individual and individual freedom and the great responsibility that comes with it. Most people can't relate to Captain America because they take their freedom for granted and are willing to hand it over for perceived safety and handing their personal bill to someone else to pay. Captain America represents the freedom of the individual to choose their own way AND accepting the burden that comes with those choices. Choosing to buy the donut, and accepting the cholesterol with it. Choosing to go to an expensive college and accepting the hefty bill that goes with it. Even in the film Cap only wants a chance, no guarantee, just a chance and even when frail and weak he pushes himself. He doesn't blame they system or the creeps like Hodge, he perseveres. Captain America doesn't need to be modern, modern America needs to be Captain America.
 
In the words of a great man "A little "old fashioned" might be just what people need".

America suffers from an overindulgence in "ME" and what "I" deserve, instead of an emphasis on the individual and individual freedom and the great responsibility that comes with it. Most people can't relate to Captain America because they take their freedom for granted and are willing to hand it over for perceived safety and handing their personal bill to someone else to pay. Captain America represents the freedom of the individual to choose their own way AND accepting the burden that comes with those choices. Choosing to buy the donut, and accepting the cholesterol with it. Choosing to go to an expensive college and accepting the hefty bill that goes with it. Even in the film Cap only wants a chance, no guarantee, just a chance and even when frail and weak he pushes himself. He doesn't blame they system or the creeps like Hodge, he perseveres. Captain America doesn't need to be modern, modern America needs to be Captain America.

:clap:clap

no sarcasm, that was a good read

(i just read the civil war a few months ago so i kinda like how you sum cap's ideals up)
 
In the words of a great man "A little "old fashioned" might be just what people need".

America suffers from an overindulgence in "ME" and what "I" deserve, instead of an emphasis on the individual and individual freedom and the great responsibility that comes with it. Most people can't relate to Captain America because they take their freedom for granted and are willing to hand it over for perceived safety and handing their personal bill to someone else to pay. Captain America represents the freedom of the individual to choose their own way AND accepting the burden that comes with those choices. Choosing to buy the donut, and accepting the cholesterol with it. Choosing to go to an expensive college and accepting the hefty bill that goes with it. Even in the film Cap only wants a chance, no guarantee, just a chance and even when frail and weak he pushes himself. He doesn't blame they system or the creeps like Hodge, he perseveres. Captain America doesn't need to be modern, modern America needs to be Captain America.

Common sense (a dying commodity, it seems) and an ideal that should be considered and applied by anyone who claims the protection of living in a free country.

Freedom is widely considered a right, but it's actually a privilege. One that not everyone has.
 
Common sense (a dying commodity, it seems) and an ideal that should be considered and applied by anyone who claims the protection of living in a free country.

Freedom is widely considered a right, but it's actually a privilege. One that not everyone has.

It is the world's greatest lie! :lecture

:stick
 
Freedom? :stick


should i hav placed spoiler tags? :monkey3

You don't live free?

Well here in England, we pay too much tax (but who does not?), our politicians are all irresponsible (but whose aren't?), I am a slave of the rat-race (but who more-or-less isn't?)

but the plus side of that...

1) I can think what I want.
2) I can say what I want.
3) I can pick any (or no) religion should I want.
4) I can live any life style I want.
5) I can eat and drink what I want.
6) I can have intimate relations with any willing person that I want.
7) I can apply or re-train for any type of work that I prefer.

And I, for one, am very grateful.

Now...back to the Captain.
 
It seems to me that the people that most hate they original 616 looks are the younger group of "fans"

Because if they were fans they'd know...there's NOTHING cool about the Ultimate universe....

and...

The 60's Batman was a tv show...not a movie.
Are you speaking for all comic book fans? You know them ALL?? Personally?? So my saying I am a 20 year comic fan is moot because 2 people who I just "met" on a forum "know" better :rotfl

There are quite a bit of things cool with the Ultimate Universe....they were so "cool" they started doing it in the MU (Black Nick Fury, Cap wearing pouches on his belt as opposed to just a silly black belt), But what do I know....I'm just a younger comic book fan


who at least knew about the campy 60s Batman movie......with you being such an "older" comic book fan than me I figured that would not have slipped by you and I would have got a dissertation on who the 60 Batman was a perfect replica of the comic book Batman lool and showed how well a comic book outfit translated to the physical world. It's a surprise that you don't seem to know about the movie? I would have figured that all older comic book fans would have seen that....

I mean it takes quite a bit of audacity to just lay out that someone you don't know:

Knows nothing about 616 (hell I knew enough to say 616 so that should be something)
Is younger (because in reality I'm old enough to have seen the sorry 60s Batman movie...when is the last time they've played that sad film on TV?)
Hasn't read comics that long (despite sharing that I have been reading comics for 20 years and have the collection to prove it)

Comic Cap doesn't suck...Man Without a Country and Civil War prove this...my comment is that a more military looking outfit would be more functional and really sell the idea of his being a soldier (which Ultimate did AND turned Cap into even more of a bad @$$ btw something the writers of the 616 have been doing....I mean look at Bucky Cap). Heck I was glad when Udon changed Taskmaster's costume and hated when they went back to the classic mostrosity of the skull face, hood, cape, pirate boots.

So after much thought...Cap will be preordered. It will be my Cap (like my ML Ultimate Cap is my Cap for my ML Avengers) and I'll move my TFA next to my computer for when I work on Social Studies and Algebra when I get home from high school...after I've sucked down some Capri Sun....
 
You are free to choose but you are not free to choose the consequences of your choices

Choose wisely my friends.

AFM

Another fallacy. What we flatter ourselves by describing as free will is nothing more than the responses we are conditioned to produce to whatever stimuli we are presented with. From birth we are programmed by our parents, teachers, society at large to the point that any suggestion of genuinely unencumbered free will is laughable. We are puppets: the only distinction is whether or not we can see the strings.

What were we talking about?
 
So, we must be careful to correctly choose the choice chosen?

...there's no choice!

There is no choice huh? Did you not just choose to state that?

That's what's called a self defeating statement. When turn back on itself, it collapse.


Another fallacy. What we flatter ourselves by describing as free will is nothing more than the responses we are conditioned to produce to whatever stimuli we are presented with. From birth we are programmed by our parents, teachers, society at large to the point that any suggestion of genuinely unencumbered free will is laughable. We are puppets: the only distinction is whether or not we can see the strings.

What were we talking about?

Then I guess you never got into trouble for doing anything that your parents didn't want. Like not clean your room, not do your home work, or lose a job, or hurt a loved one or friend. Are these not choices?

AFM
 
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