Hot Toys - MMS196 - The Avengers: Battle Damaged Mark VII (Movie Promo Edition)

[warlock664]

While I'm still hopeful my WL will convert (got on it relatively early the morning it went up), I realize it may not happen. I have a MISB Sideshow Exclusive IM2 Mark VI ready for trade if the WL doesn't convert.

 

[Blackthornone]

I think there is a big difference between people who originally buy a collectible with the intention of selling it and a collector selling an item he orginally planned on keeping, but because of demarnd decides to sell it and put that money back into him collection.

And no one is forcing anyone to pay any amount for anything. And selling this for whatever its going for, is no different than selling a Blade for $400.

So if no one is forcing anyone to pay any amount for it, does that mean that people who can't afford them can get them for free, like pro bono services from lawyers for people who cannot afford it?


I did not know people did that. That must be nice to be rich enough to buy collectibles just to give them away to those who missed out on buying.

 

[Blackthornone]

Lol.
Injustice.
People buying a toy for $200 and selling it for $600 is not injustice.
That's just commerce. And if you think any different, that's just your opinion.
True injustice is someone killing someone and getting off on a technicality.
You can't label selling an in demand item for a greater price injustice.

Injustice is someone doing something bad and getting away with it.

Slavery was just commerce when it was legal.

 

[bonestockbrz]

While I'm still hopeful my WL will convert (got on it relatively early the morning it went up), I realize it may not happen. I have a MISB Sideshow Exclusive IM2 Mark VI ready for trade if the WL doesn't convert.

Ugh, so glad I acquired the mark vi ex last week because thats a killer deal I would have done in heartbeat.

Lol, all this talk about selling toys for profit is quite comical. Ill just chime in on this, toys are not a necessity in life, they are a luxury. Get over yourselves.

 

[tommyh84]

There's a difference between buying said figure and deciding down the road (however quick down the road that may be) to sell it on to help pay towards something else and buying with the sole intent to 'flip it' because by doing the latter you're for all intents and purposes taking away someone else's opportunity to own it at retail cost

I'm also of the opinion that people who can afford to buy things just to 'flip' them probably don't need the money anyway; I know for sure can't afford to buy things just to sell them on (mainly because I spend way too much money on this hobby on the things I want for me and any cash I did have spare I'd want to be spent likewise)

 

[Black Label Society]

Injustice is someone doing something bad and getting away with it.

what the hell is bad about selling something for what its worth?

if you were selling your home and more than 1 person was interested in it, and a bidding war ensued, who would get your house? the best offer or the worst one?

 

[karamazov80]

Are people showing any respect or concern for fellow collectors when they "buy to flip?" No. But these are expensive toys. They serve no utilitarian purpose. People don't actually need them. You can't eat them, or live in them, or use them to heal wounds. Anyone who buys these for jacked up prices on the secondary market is a collector who wants a pretty new toy to put on a shelf, nothing more. You can't "exploit" someone in this scenario by refusing to sell them your toy for less than $X. Equating terms like "profiteering," "exploitation" and "injustice" to this process cheapens those situations where they actually occur. If I was tricking some elderly folks living off Social Security into buying these, then sure. . .

 

[galmando]

what the hell is bad about selling something for what its worth?

if you were selling your home and more than 1 person was interested in it, and a bidding war ensued, who would get your house? the best offer or the worst one?

I'd sell my house to the lowest bidder to help them out

sooo... anyone selling that BD mark vii at retail..?

 

[Username]

Yep.
According to the guy with the grudge, if you buy your house for £170,000, and then the price goes up to £230,000, it would appear you are not lucky. You are getting away with crime...
Whatevs.
I'll swap one of my BDMKVIIs for a Tumbler.
OOOOh! It's injustice!!!!
Or commerce...

 

[karamazov80]

I'd sell my house to the lowest bidder to help them out

sooo... anyone selling that BD mark vii at retail..?

You know what, I could use a house. Since value isn't a concern, it sounds like we might be able to work out a fair trade here.

 

[spindrift]

Are people showing any respect or concern for fellow collectors when they "buy to flip?" No. But these are expensive toys. They serve no utilitarian purpose. People don't actually need them. You can't eat them, or live in them, or use them to heal wounds. Anyone who buys these for jacked up prices on the secondary market is a collector who wants a pretty new toy to put on a shelf, nothing more. You can't "exploit" someone in this scenario by refusing to sell them your toy for less than $X. Equating terms like "profiteering," "exploitation" and "injustice" to this process cheapens those situations where they actually occur. If I was tricking some elderly folks living off Social Security into buying these, then sure. . .

If you were lucky enough to snag one, can sell it for $700 or 800 or whatever more power to you...I would if I had one, it's just a piece of pricey plastic. All it is.

 

[Apone]

You mean profitable business. Scalping and amoral profiteering by exploiting other people is not good.

I didnt see anywhere where he said they had a gun to the head of the buyer

 

[kanine]

Well, if you're going to buy it to flip it, then don't tell people who really want it they don't have the right to complain. This thread sucks now, I'll just wait till I get mine and appreciate the figure all for myself.

 

[Apone]

Next time you go into a local comic or toy shop..make sure to call the owner a scalper...by most people's reasoning here...thats what they are.

 

[franpincho]

You mean profitable business. Scalping and amoral profiteering by exploiting other people is not good.

Lol.


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[karamazov80]

I'll be getting mine Thursday and I'll get some pics up. I can't believe how no one is posting up in hand pics. I know most people are getting them this week in the US, but I expected more pics from people who got them earlier overseas.

Guess this figure was overhyped. Maybe most people bought this to sell it and no one really wants it at all.

I think it's mostly that few have actually received it yet.

Next time you go into a local comic or toy shop..make sure to call the owner a scalper...by most people's reasoning here...thats what they are.

I think tommy makes a good point about this, which is that there is a difference between buying up limited stock and selling for profit when others didn't have a chance, and buying up something that is not limited, where others simply get in late, procrastinate, etc., then end up paying a mint for it. The former is really "scalping" while the other behavior is not. Comic shops may do some of this, but most of what they do isn't.

 

[bonestockbrz]

Maybe when I was buying up all the Iron Man Armors I needed (mk iv, mk v, bd iii, mk vi and mech test), I should have called the sellers scalpers too and asked them to sell them for retail....

 

[karamazov80]

But those people weren't scalpers, because none of those other figures you mention were released in very limited supply. All were available at retail or near retail at some point for anyone who was willing and able to pay.

 

[Black Label Society]

not for nothing, but people who complain this hard are usually kids or just dont have money. i used to think the world was unfair when i was 16 too.

 

[Username]

not for nothing, but people who complain this hard are usually kids or just dont have money. i used to think the world was unfair when i was 16 too.

It's the same guy who said Igor couldn't fly faster than 50mph because he was too big, lol.