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Re: Hot Toys - MMS353 D16 - CA: Civil War - Mark XLVI Collectible Figure

Saw that this was sold out on BBTS, so I ended up pre-ordering this guy yesterday just in case he sells out on SSC too. :yess:
 
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I really like the path Tony went on in CW, but other than all the small lights on the Mark 46, I still prefer the Mark 45 design. The Mark 45 figure also comes with more in the way of weapons/accessories; the Mark 46 figure doesn't really come with much outside of the Tony Stark head (guess that's the trade-off). I'm hoping HT makes a BD version of this suit (it'll probably be a promo of some sort, if at all), but for now, I think I'm waiting/passing on this.

:lecture

The Russos, unlike a certain Zack Snyder (yes I'm going there.. :lol) owned the fight scenes, however they also remembered that there is meant to be an enjoyment taken from these movies.

BvS got far to lost/caught up in it's own importance that it forgot to have fun. CW conversely was a fun, grown up and a thoroughly enjoyable watch, and indeed is now one of my all time favourite films from this genre.

I'm extremely excite to see what they do with Avengers: Infinity War - Part I and Part II

This movie is everything BvS wishes it were. There's the element of fun, but also, since Marvel has already established these characters for years, it means something when they come to blows (I'm still reeling from the emotion of that last fight sequence). BvS was just emotionally empty and tried to look like it was a smart movie.
 
Re: Hot Toys - MMS353 D16 - CA: Civil War - Mark XLVI Collectible Figure

Is this in danger of hitting WL before 3 months time?
 
Re: Hot Toys - MMS353 D16 - CA: Civil War - Mark XLVI Collectible Figure

Saw the movie last night and it was a great film. I will definitely be getting this armor, all the lights make the suit look even better. I'm going to hold off pre ordering, in hopes of a battle damaged version.

when was the last time they released a full on separate battle damaged release? the mark 7?
 
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mk.3 bd
mk.7 bd
 
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This or the die cast figure?
 
Re: Hot Toys - MMS353 D16 - CA: Civil War - Mark XLVI Collectible Figure

I really like the path Tony went on in CW, but other than all the small lights on the Mark 46, I still prefer the Mark 45 design. The Mark 45 figure also comes with more in the way of weapons/accessories; the Mark 46 figure doesn't really come with much outside of the Tony Stark head (guess that's the trade-off). I'm hoping HT makes a BD version of this suit (it'll probably be a promo of some sort, if at all), but for now, I think I'm waiting/passing on this.



This movie is everything BvS wishes it were. There's the element of fun, but also, since Marvel has already established these characters for years, it means something when they come to blows (I'm still reeling from the emotion of that last fight sequence). BvS was just emotionally empty and tried to look like it was a smart movie.

yeah, the end when tony realized that bucky was responsible for the death of his parents, it was done really well. full on emotion, no logic, no reasoning, no jokes, no witty or snide comments.. just pure anger and betrayal. it was perfectly done.

what i loved most about this movie that dawn of justice didn't do well (besides the humor, and sunlight lol) was the way they cut the movie. in batman vs superman it seemed like just as a scene was getting good, they cut away to something else entirely different. it just took me out of the movie. with civil war i was in it the entire time. they cut away at the right times, and they cut to scenes that you wanted to see.

i'm not sure if i want to go see it again in theaters or wait until it's released digitally. i only saw age of ultron once in the theater and when i bought it through iTunes it was more exciting because i had only seen it once prior. we'll see.

mk.3 bd
mk.7 bd

yeah, i didn't recall seeing any newer full blown battle damaged figures. maybe since they've upped the paint jobs by adding small nicks and scuffs, along with the extra battle damaged pieces, they feel full blown second battle damaged versions are unnecessary.
 
Re: Hot Toys - MMS353 D16 - CA: Civil War - Mark XLVI Collectible Figure

Just curious, what's the official time frame on spoiler tags after a film's release to when it's deemed "safe" that pretty much everyone has seen the film? :lol

I agree with TimothyR's remark about Tony's rage and emotion at the end though. Completely seeing red, no logic, no rational thinking. In fact, I think at one point he even said, "I don't care."

Personally, I enjoyed CW and BvS equally as much. I don't feel the need nor the urge to compare one to the other. I feel that both at times conveyed the same message, had the same themes and undertones, but had two different styles, which I like. I personally wouldn't like it if DC films felt like a Marvel film and vice versa. I don't think DC needs to be more like Marvel in areas and Marvel doesn't need to be more like DC in areas.
 
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This movie is everything BvS wishes it were. There's the element of fun, but also, since Marvel has already established these characters for years, it means something when they come to blows (I'm still reeling from the emotion of that last fight sequence). BvS was just emotionally empty and tried to look like it was a smart movie.

that's how I feel about this movie (CW):lol though it was going to be the be all end all superhero movie and...it wasn't...for me at least.

I was so ready to PO everything (even had the movie promo Cap on PO already)...now, don't want anything from this line

:chase
 
Re: Hot Toys - MMS353 D16 - CA: Civil War - Mark XLVI Collectible Figure

Just curious, what's the official time frame on spoiler tags after a film's release to when it's deemed "safe" that pretty much everyone has seen the film? :lol

I agree with TimothyR's remark about Tony's rage and emotion at the end though. Completely seeing red, no logic, no rational thinking. In fact, I think at one point he even said, "I don't care."

Personally, I enjoyed CW and BvS equally as much. I don't feel the need nor the urge to compare one to the other. I feel that both at times conveyed the same message, had the same themes and undertones, but had two different styles, which I like. I personally wouldn't like it if DC films felt like a Marvel film and vice versa. I don't think DC needs to be more like Marvel in areas and Marvel doesn't need to be more like DC in areas.

I liked them both as well.

People seem to slam BvS for being to serious. Like no movie has ever done that. It's supposed to be s out consequences. That should be serious. And I hear all the time that you can't have a good movie (comic book ) that's so serious..like there's not a whole multitude of genres that are that way. From thrillers to horror to mystery. Thank goodness Hitchcock and King where at their height before you had to make one liners in every two minutes and makelcight of everything.
 
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seriousness is not the issue.

Civil war actually had people talking. The sides had legitimate reasons for opposing each other.

BVS? Supes is fighting Batman not on ideological differences but because he wasn't able to explain his MARTHA.

CW delved into consequence and repercussions. BVS skimmed it, then we got doomsday'd as a ****ty plot device and end.
 
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I liked them both as well.

People seem to slam BvS for being to serious. Like no movie has ever done that. It's supposed to be s out consequences. That should be serious. And I hear all the time that you can't have a good movie (comic book ) that's so serious..like there's not a whole multitude of genres that are that way. From thrillers to horror to mystery. Thank goodness Hitchcock and King where at their height before you had to make one liners in every two minutes and makelcight of everything.

:goodpost:

seriousness is not the issue.

Civil war actually had people talking. The sides had legitimate reasons for opposing each other.

BVS? Supes is fighting Batman not on ideological differences but because he wasn't able to explain his MARTHA.

CW delved into consequence and repercussions. BVS skimmed it.

I would personally disagree on the latter part of your post, but you're free to your opinion just as I am. :duff
 
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seriousness is not the issue.

Civil war actually had people talking. The sides had legitimate reasons for opposing each other.

BVS? Supes is fighting Batman not on ideological differences but because he wasn't able to explain his MARTHA.

CW delved into consequence and repercussions. BVS skimmed it, then we got doomsday'd as a ****ty plot device and end.

Right, the Martha thing again. Like that's so much worse then "I'm with you to the end of the line" line from WS that stopped a brainwashed assasian from beating Cap to death. It's connection and humanity. That's what the Martha line, and the Cap line, are for. These movies are hours long. They can't flesh every single thing out. The audience is supposed to fill the blanks in. You get that these are based on Comics...where you can have like ten words tell the story of dozens of people over days or weeks? Lol

BvS was more subtle and read between the lines on some things. And on others it was more in your face. But they both had the exact same plot. The difference is that CW had 10 movies and a decade to set it all up and BvS had two hours. It was never ever going to have the same back story. It just wasn't possible. But what DC did was in the very first introduction to their shared universe they addressed what took marvel a dozen films and a decade...actions have consequences. Osama blew up two buildings and we enter to war as soon as it happened. The avengers blew up half of New York and it took years and years and years before anyone in a position of power did anything. They also blew up trillions in DC (winter soldier) destroyed the MCU equal to DHS. If DC took the same route and had films eleven remotely close to marvel that would get slammed just as much,...and even worse..that type of over saturation of like content could pop the cbm bubble. Having different tones is the right thing to do.

(This isn't just about you....what you said. It's a culmination of everything. And I am a little more invested then most)
 
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Right, the Martha thing again. Like that's so much worse then "I'm with you to the end of the line" line from WS that stopped a brainwashed assasian from beating Cap to death. It's connection and humanity. That's what the Martha line, and the Cap line, are for. These movies are hours long. They can't flesh every single thing out. The audience is supposed to fill the blanks in. You get that these are based on Comics...where you can have like ten words tell the story of dozens of people over days or weeks? Lol

BvS was more subtle and read between the lines on some things. And on others it was more in your face. But they both had the exact same plot. The difference is that CW had 10 movies and a decade to set it all up and BvS had two hours. It was never ever going to have the same back story. It just wasn't possible. But what DC did was in the very first introduction to their shared universe they addressed what took marvel a dozen films and a decade...actions have consequences. Osama blew up two buildings and we enter to war as soon as it happened. The avengers blew up half of New York and it took years and years and years before anyone in a position of power did anything. They also blew up trillions in DC (winter soldier) destroyed the MCU equal to DHS. If DC took the same route and had films eleven remotely close to marvel that would get slammed just as much,...and even worse..that type of over saturation of like content could pop the cbm bubble. Having different tones is the right thing to do.

(This isn't just about you....what you said. It's a culmination of everything. And I am a little more invested then most)

:exactly: :goodpost:

Nice analogy by the way with the "I'm with you 'til the end of the line" quote from TWS. I never thought of it that way myself. But you're right, both that and the "Save Martha" line are intended to do the same thing: To abruptly trigger one's memory and literally stop them dead in their tracks.
 
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ugh, BvS and CW are movies, you liked them or you didn't, I don't see the need to bash or defend a film by using another film as an example. Anyways I loved this movie, looking back at it I'm actually surprised how little Iron Man is actually in the film, sure Tony is in the the whole thing but Iron Man isn't. I also liked that everyone only wore one suit, I think the only Marvel film where the main characters only put on one suit was Ant-Man, it's a nice change of pace.
 
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ugh, BvS and CW are movies, you liked them or you didn't, I don't see the need to bash or defend a film by using another film as an example. Anyways I loved this movie, looking back at it I'm actually surprised how little Iron Man is actually in the film, sure Tony is in the the whole thing but Iron Man isn't. I also liked that everyone only wore one suit, I think the only Marvel film where the main characters only put on one suit was Ant-Man, it's a nice change of pace.

Even though I understand the average person's natural inclination to, I personally don't even see the need to compare the two and state which one was "better" by listing what one had that the other lacked and vice versa. One is DCEU and one is MCU, they have two different styles.

I personally greatly enjoyed both.
 
Re: Hot Toys - MMS353 D16 - CA: Civil War - Mark XLVI Collectible Figure

They should've stopped fighting when they found out Bucky and Rhody had the same first name.
 
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I liked them both as well.

People seem to slam BvS for being to serious. Like no movie has ever done that. It's supposed to be s out consequences. That should be serious. And I hear all the time that you can't have a good movie (comic book ) that's so serious..like there's not a whole multitude of genres that are that way. From thrillers to horror to mystery. Thank goodness Hitchcock and King where at their height before you had to make one liners in every two minutes and makelcight of everything.

i liked watching both of them. i just think civil war was a better movie overall.

i don't mind serious movies.. i just don't want to watch 2 and a half hours of dreariness. i wanted some fun.. just some.

i certainly don't think anyone is wrong for liking both, or preferring dawn of justice. i just personally preferred the experience i had watching civil war. it just gave me more of what i wanted to see than batman vs superman did, and some stuff that i didn't even know i wanted to see.

i've never been a big spider-man fan and i've never been a big superman fan. it's not that i dislike them.. it's just that neither of them have been high on the list of characters i like. well, civil war made me REALLY like spider-man while dawn of justice left me feeling about superman the same way i felt before seeing him. batman on the other hand was great. it's definitely a batman that i would like to know more about.

the humor in civil war really worked. it wasn't a funny movie by any means.. i think sprinkling some humor throughout something so serious really helped. besides the "oh ****" moment in dawn of justice i think there was only 1 or 2 laughable moments in the entire movie. the humor in civil war also really helps emphasize the seriousness at the climax.

and lets face it.. neither of these are hitchcock or king movies.

overall the nolan movies were serious.. but they were well liked because they weren't consistently dark, dreary, and hopeless. those movies definitely included some levity.

like i said, it's all personal preference. and silverstar is right. comparing the movies is useless. both have their merits.. and most of the times opinions aren't going to be swayed. i just wish i liked dawn of justice more. i still can't wait to see which direction they go and what a standalone batman movie will be like.
 
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