Hot Toys: Prometheus - MOVIE SPOILERS!

[CarrotBun]

Whatever helps you ignore the evidence kid.

Good luck with your false theory as the evidence has been there since 1977 as I just gave you a video with like 30 images proving so.

 

[Sabres21768]

YAWN!

Move along junior...your wrongness is starting to get boring.

 

[CarrotBun]

The only thing wrong is your ignorance of the facts...Or can you not play youtube videos?

YAWN!

 

[Sabres21768]

Yep, watched it...and like I said earlier...it shows where Ridley obviously got his design for his Engineers from.

But, as was stated earlier...Giger himself NEVER described the Jockey as a suit. That was done soley by Ridley when he started his idea for PROMETHEUS. Hell, that was proven in an interview with Ridley himself...or are you just picking and choosing which parts you wish to believe?

Again...it's just YOU trying to make the design work backwards while providing NO proof that Giger's original design was a suit.

 

[CarrotBun]

Um no? It shows HR Giger's Engineer design. And HR Giger built the Engineer in Alien.

Giger NEVER described it as an Elephant. He specifically shows it as a humanoid in his paintings.

You are either lying or brain dead.

100% of the proof says it was a suit. 0% says it is an elephant.

A couple of the series are even equivalent to comic paintings. You are laughably dumb.

 

[Sabres21768]

You're a funny little kid.

This has been good for a laugh.

As I said earlier...good luck with your theories...even as wrong as they are.

Now...back to the purpose of this thread...HOT TOYS figures!

Bring on the Deacon HOT TOYS...I demand it!

 

[CarrotBun]

YOU'RE a funny little kid.

It's been good for a laugh.

Like I said earlier, good luck on your theory of it being an elephant when it's been known what it is since 1977.

Educate yourself and you won't look so foolish next time.

Now back to Hot Toys.

 

[Kiva]

I think one has to remember, in Gigers book that the designs were taken from, they are just paintings. They are not Aliens as we know them, they are not Jockeys as we know them. They are just designs. If Ridley decided to take 1 of the designs and use it as an Alien creature in one of his movies it doesnt mean that other variations of the design in Gigers book is automatically "canon" with the movie.

 

[Sabres21768]

Does anyone else smell crazy in here?

I sure do...and it smells kinda like burnt carrots...that's weird.

(waits for Carrotbutt to type the exact same thing but change a couple of words )

 

[CarrotBun]

and Ridley obviously did use them as we see them in Alien and Prometheus.
HR Giger made the Engineer himself as well

 

[CarrotBun]

Does anyone else smell crazy in here?

I sure do...and it smells kinda like burnt carrots...that's weird.

(waits for Carrotbutt to type the exact same thing but change a couple of words )

The only thing crazy here is you as you ignore the facts

Sorry you missed out on the news back in the 70's

try actually paying attention next time

 

[Sabres21768]

Kid, I doubt you were even born in the 70's.

But hey...your theories are cute...wrong...but cute.

 

[CarrotBun]

Kid, deing born in a time has no barring on when the facts were created.

I'm STILL waiting on your elephant evidence despite the artwork and films disagreeing with you.
We've seen what Giger thinks. We've seen what Ridley thinks.

Your theories are both ugly and incorrect........how old are you btw?

 

[CarrotBun]

Cool deleted scene. The parasite idea...The black liquid is basically another version of it
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAJAebEWeCc[/ame]

 

[Sabres21768]

Just do me a favor, read the quotes i posted below and the evidence. Giger nor Scott never said they were elephant type creatures. Like i posted and found you specific quotes the Jockey originally named The Pilot is a biomechnical machine meshed together Pilot + Seat + Cockpit all as one biomechanical machine. They designed it that way in Alien. Giger designed it himself with his own hands with help from his assistants. He never originally thought there to be any living being inside it that would get up and walk around because it was all meshed together. It wasn't until RScott and Giger worked on Prometheus TOGETHER that they decided it would be an Engineer inside a suit.

Other people besides RScott & Giger started thinking they were something else, like elephant looking creatures, but i trust Giger and Scott more than ANYONE ELSE because they designed it and worked on the original together.

There were drawings before 1977, going back until the 60s where Giger was playing around with different humanoid creatures that looked similar to the Jockey's but that painting RScott & Giger used for Alien that came from Gigers Necronomicon book was about a meshed biomechanical machine.

I think you meant to quote this to Carrotbutt.

He's the one arguing for a bald dude in a suit...not me.

The crazy is over there.

It won't matter though...he'll ignore it in favor of this silly theory because it appeared in PROMETHEUS.

Laughable really.

 

[CarrotBun]

Actually you're the one who's arguing it's an elephant.

The crazy is with you.

Even in the face of evidence.

Giger artwork shows Giger's idea for it. Giger designs model in Alien.

Prometheus shows Ridley's idea for it. Giger's art placed in the Deacon mural.

You are laughable really!

 

[Sabres21768]

When you just repeat what I say, but change a few words, doesn't really help your case at all.

The artwork you're talking about doesn't PROVE anything.
It's just some artwork.

At no time does Giger put the two together and suggest that those creatures wore the Jockey as a suit.

You're making the connection based soley on what you saw in PROMETHEUS.

That's understandable, but doesn't PROVE anything.

Giger himself NEVER described the Jockey as a suit.

That didn't happen until Ridley started to come up with his ideas for PROMETHEUS...and that was PROVEN in an interview with Ridley himself.

You're trying to add apples and oranges together to come up with bananas.

 

[Sabres21768]

Again, I understand where he's coming from...but it's not fact.

There's just no arguing that.

Even his point about cartilage not fossilizing is incorrect.

Cartilage can, and has, been shown to fossilize.

See, that's what happens when guys like that just spout stuff off as "fact" without doing any real research.

 

[CarrotBun]

It doesn't fossilize 99% of the time.

You have zero evidence it is an elephant.

Giger doesn't think so (his art)

Ridley doesn't think so (prometheus)

Cry some more child

I actually did research unlike yourself.

 

[Sabres21768]

It doesn't fossilize 99% of the time.

You have zero evidence it is an elephant.

Giger doesn't think so (his art)

Ridley doesn't think so (prometheus)

Cry some more child

I actually did research unlike yourself.

Watching PROMETHEUS a dozen times, and then trying to make it all work with ALIEN doesn't count as "research".