Hot Toys: Prometheus - MOVIE SPOILERS!
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it looks like you will cry if they don't end up cancelling it.
what?
makes no sense. I liked Prometheus. I would love a sequel that did not have Shaw in it so much. Maybe a cameo. Im just not the type of fan boy that wish for Prometheus sex toys
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the final reveal is taking forever
I'm quite intriged to see the final product
and since evryone is debating the movie
I'm I the only one extremely dissapointed that the "space jockey" turned
out to be just a stupid looking giant
I'm quite intriged to see the final product
and since evryone is debating the movie
I'm I the only one extremely dissapointed that the "space jockey" turned
out to be just a stupid looking giant
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Yes. The enigma of the space jockey was shattered with that revelation.
I was kind of upset that the giant elephant creature in Alien ended up being a bald albino dude.
But, I did like the way the "engineers" looked in this movie. to make myself clear. I like the design of the tall bald engineers, they look pretty cool
But I HATE that they are the space jockeys. I really hated that.
All these time, for years, we all thought that the space jockeys were these really weird elephant aliens. To have it be a suit was pretty stupid.
good gracious. this thread is a complete mess.
Obviously we cant be certain that Prometheus will get a sequel. The proposed sequel may or may not come to fruition. However, we can be certain that, per comments made by E. Watts (one of the producers currently attached to the project), Ridley Scott, and Noomi Rapace, Fox is currently planning and actively executing (scripting etc.) a sequel to Prometheus. Nothing is certain in hollywood until the film is in the can. Both Rapace and Fassbender are signed on to reprise their respective roles. It appears probable that a sequel to Prometheus will come to fruition (assuming scott stays healthy and attached to the project).
@rory: i know that marketing budgets are not declared for films. This is precisely why i asked you to provide a link. I knew you would not be able to do so, as an official marketing budget figure does not exist. I certainly dont know what the marketing budget was for the film. The rumored marketing figure that carrot supplied (just north of 50 million) was exactly what i have read. Who knows if its accurate...I do know that fassbender (as david) and Lindelof (script duties on all virals) were not further compensated for their work on the viral campaign. Both Lindelof and Fassbender stated, explicitly, in separate interviews, that the aforementioned duties were done without additional monetary compensation. They both went on to joke about how, in the future, such services will be extra.
Personally, i am very pleased with how the space jockey/engineers turned out. Not only do i like the appearance of the engineers in a design/aesthetic sense, but i like the decision regarding the elephantine "jockey suit" placed over the humanoid "engineer" as well. Though i LOVE Giger's original design (elephantine creature affixed to the chair etc.), i was very concerned that such a design would not translate well into a walking, breathing being (i was concerned that the creepiness would not translate once the being was no longer dead and not bound to the jockey chair). I really like the way the filmmakers handled it all; i think the final design of the engineers, along with the decision NOT to go back to LV 426, actually serves to preserve the mystery and integrity of the iconic derelict "space jockey" (though i completely understand why those who dont like it, cant get into it). Additionally, although it is relatively clear that the 1979 "space jockey" is NOT wearing a suit, it should be noted that, even back in 1979, Giger was creating pieces of art that depict "jockeys" whose elephantine trunks are clearly part of a helmet/apparatus (they look like breathing tubes etc.).
Obviously there is no objectively correct opinion when it comes to perceiving and processing art. Some of us like the film...some of us do not. Personally, i really liked prometheus. I am hoping that we get a great sequel.
anyways...Hot Toys needs to show us something so we can end this chaos.
edit: for your viewing pleasure...a link showing a very old HR Giger piece where the space jockey-esque being is clearly wearing a suit (complete w/ backpack, helmet, and breathing tube etc.). Again, not saying the jockey in Alien was wearing a suit, just pointing out that the idea of a being in a suit is very much in keeping w the spirit of Giger's work, as he himself occassionally portrayed them this way.
https://alienseries.wordpress.com/2012/12/03/alien-hierogylphs/space-jockey-in-giger-hieroglypic/
Obviously we cant be certain that Prometheus will get a sequel. The proposed sequel may or may not come to fruition. However, we can be certain that, per comments made by E. Watts (one of the producers currently attached to the project), Ridley Scott, and Noomi Rapace, Fox is currently planning and actively executing (scripting etc.) a sequel to Prometheus. Nothing is certain in hollywood until the film is in the can. Both Rapace and Fassbender are signed on to reprise their respective roles. It appears probable that a sequel to Prometheus will come to fruition (assuming scott stays healthy and attached to the project).
@rory: i know that marketing budgets are not declared for films. This is precisely why i asked you to provide a link. I knew you would not be able to do so, as an official marketing budget figure does not exist. I certainly dont know what the marketing budget was for the film. The rumored marketing figure that carrot supplied (just north of 50 million) was exactly what i have read. Who knows if its accurate...I do know that fassbender (as david) and Lindelof (script duties on all virals) were not further compensated for their work on the viral campaign. Both Lindelof and Fassbender stated, explicitly, in separate interviews, that the aforementioned duties were done without additional monetary compensation. They both went on to joke about how, in the future, such services will be extra.
Personally, i am very pleased with how the space jockey/engineers turned out. Not only do i like the appearance of the engineers in a design/aesthetic sense, but i like the decision regarding the elephantine "jockey suit" placed over the humanoid "engineer" as well. Though i LOVE Giger's original design (elephantine creature affixed to the chair etc.), i was very concerned that such a design would not translate well into a walking, breathing being (i was concerned that the creepiness would not translate once the being was no longer dead and not bound to the jockey chair). I really like the way the filmmakers handled it all; i think the final design of the engineers, along with the decision NOT to go back to LV 426, actually serves to preserve the mystery and integrity of the iconic derelict "space jockey" (though i completely understand why those who dont like it, cant get into it). Additionally, although it is relatively clear that the 1979 "space jockey" is NOT wearing a suit, it should be noted that, even back in 1979, Giger was creating pieces of art that depict "jockeys" whose elephantine trunks are clearly part of a helmet/apparatus (they look like breathing tubes etc.).
Obviously there is no objectively correct opinion when it comes to perceiving and processing art. Some of us like the film...some of us do not. Personally, i really liked prometheus. I am hoping that we get a great sequel.
anyways...Hot Toys needs to show us something so we can end this chaos.
edit: for your viewing pleasure...a link showing a very old HR Giger piece where the space jockey-esque being is clearly wearing a suit (complete w/ backpack, helmet, and breathing tube etc.). Again, not saying the jockey in Alien was wearing a suit, just pointing out that the idea of a being in a suit is very much in keeping w the spirit of Giger's work, as he himself occassionally portrayed them this way.
https://alienseries.wordpress.com/2012/12/03/alien-hierogylphs/space-jockey-in-giger-hieroglypic/
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Great post joey.
Man - all the other talk aside.. Giger's art is to this day, still as breathtaking as it ever was. I totally see the suit motif he was conveying in the drawing too - although it is kind of obvious anyway. I've still only seen the film once.. I know. I will buy it soon, I've just gotta pull my finger out & do it!!
Regarding the Engineer's design, I was kinda bummed too, when the 'Elephant man' turned out to be a giant in a suit.. but the concept is obviously based on established ideas (by Giger no less) so I'm fine with it I guess.
Great film - ashamed I still don't own it.
Man - all the other talk aside.. Giger's art is to this day, still as breathtaking as it ever was. I totally see the suit motif he was conveying in the drawing too - although it is kind of obvious anyway. I've still only seen the film once.. I know. I will buy it soon, I've just gotta pull my finger out & do it!!
Regarding the Engineer's design, I was kinda bummed too, when the 'Elephant man' turned out to be a giant in a suit.. but the concept is obviously based on established ideas (by Giger no less) so I'm fine with it I guess.
Great film - ashamed I still don't own it.
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what?
Im just not the type of fan boy that wish for Prometheus sex toys
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Yeah, I mentioned the drawing & how amazing it is right after his comment. 
Yeah, I mentioned the drawing & how amazing it is right after his comment.
Yeah, just figured I'd show it
Following up on joeyjoes post, here is the original mural by Giger featuring the 'jockeys' clearly in suits.
this guy is f__ed up.... Don't even want to imagine the kinds of nightmares he gets
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If you're insinuating that CarrotBun is myself, you're dead wrong.Best of luck trolling the sequel thread.. We all know who you really are.
I've said it before, but here are my thoughts regarding the space jockey/engineer change.
When I first heard about the change to a suit I was very disappointed. I've always believed the entirety of the space jockey in Alien to be an actual creature.
When you see Alien, you don't think for one second that this derelict ship and fossilized ET have anything whatsoever to do with the human race. That's part of what made it special. It was the very definition of the word "alien". Completely unknown. Not having any relation to human beings, or Earth. Something ancient and mysterious that you assume must have come from somewhere very, very far away.
Just the idea of the crashed derelict carrying the fossilized SJ and the alien eggs creeped the hell out of me as a child. It was just the perfect blend of archaic mystery, alien and fear.
Now they're bald human gods.
I'm not going to lie and say that I prefer the route Prometheus took, but I couldn't be more satisfied with it's outcome. I still wish Ridley had followed through with our original predictions of the SJ, but I think the whole "Gods and Engineers of space" angle, and their relation to humans was handled brilliantly.
And for the record, Prometheus sex toys would be awesome.
If you're insinuating that CarrotBun is myself, you're dead wrong.
I've said it before, but here are my thoughts regarding the space jockey/engineer change.
When I first heard about the change to a suit I was very disappointed. I've always believed the entirety of the space jockey in Alien to be an actual creature.
When you see Alien, you don't think for one second that this derelict ship and fossilized ET have anything whatsoever to do with the human race. That's part of what made it special. It was the very definition of the word "alien". Completely unknown. Not having any relation to human beings, or Earth. Something ancient and mysterious that you assume must have come from somewhere very, very far away.
Just the idea of the crashed derelict carrying the fossilized SJ and the alien eggs creeped the hell out of me as a child. It was just the perfect blend of archaic mystery, alien and fear.
Now they're bald human gods.
I'm not going to lie and say that I prefer the route Prometheus took, but I couldn't be more satisfied with it's outcome. I still wish Ridley had followed through with our original predictions of the SJ, but I think the whole "Gods and Engineers of space" angle, and their relation to humans was handled brilliantly.
And for the record, Prometheus sex toys would be awesome.
Engineer head shaped vibrating toy perhaps?
I know Carrotburn would buy 10.
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