Hot Toys: Prometheus - MOVIE SPOILERS!

[Niceman]

One question. Has anyone purchased this??
https://www.amazon.com/Prometheus-T...TF8&qid=1340136960&sr=8-4&keywords=prometheus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY05LUUE_dI

Yes. I have it. It's amazing. I'll probably write a review.

 

[Niceman]

R rated film- what do they want- not a family oriented crowd suction like Avengers...Fox knew this going in with that rating- it is doing fine for what it is

Yeah, those numbers are good for R.

 

[Bo Shrek]

This is my views...


I believe if AVP & AVP-R movies were at the same caliber as the original Predator and Alien everyone would have embraced them and this discussion would have not existed,
Truth is AVP are more related to the Alien universe than Predator as Weyland (however you want to spell it) exists in all five pictures including Prometheus. There is not a whisper of it all three Predator movies.

As a viewer of ONLY the movies (I have not read comic books/video games/ novels etc) I will continue to believe they share the same universe and timeline. Honestly it does not bother me at all. I find the “what if” or “only in the Predator universe” etc harder to believe than they actually sharing.

I see the Engineer, Giant Squid, cobra eels, black liquid added ingredients to our already love/hate universe!!!!

When I sat in the theatre back in July 2004 as the lights dimmed to watch AVP, I never once turned to my wife and said ...”hey FYI this is a what if movie....or remember this only takes place in the Predator universe......don’t try to think of the other four Alien pictures......

 

[Niceman]

This is my views...


I believe if AVP & AVP-R movies were at the same caliber as the original Predator and Alien everyone would have embraced them and this discussion would have not existed,
Truth is AVP are more related to the Alien universe than Predator as Weyland (however you want to spell it) exists in all five pictures including Prometheus. There is not a whisper of it all three Predator movies.

As a viewer of ONLY the movies (I have not read comic books/video games/ novels etc) I will continue to believe they share the same universe and timeline. Honestly it does not bother me at all. I find the “what if” or “only in the Predator universe” etc harder to believe than they actually sharing.

I see the Engineer, Giant Squid, cobra eels, black liquid added ingredients to our already love/hate universe!!!!

When I sat in the theatre back in July 2004 as the lights dimmed to watch AVP, I never once turned to my wife and said ...”hey FYI this is a what if movie....or remember this only takes place in the Predator universe......don’t try to think of the other four Alien pictures......

I guess I have two problems with the AVP movies.

#1 AVPR sucked. The first AVP was actually a better movie than A3 or A4 (even if a few things didn't quite make sense to me.)

#2 The idea of having Xenomorphs on Earth now or in the near future or the ancient past just seems really dumb to me. There's no way even the Predators could completely contain them. If they hadn't completely overwhelmed the planet, they would at the very least dominate our myths and legends to the point where we wouldn't need dragons or vampires. I just don't buy it. It's beyond what I can buy.

So, for me, I like having the option of jettisoning the two AVP movies to the Predators franchise and leaving Aliens with the 4 Ripley movies and the 7 Noomi films.

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

You must be crazy if you think AvP was a better film than Alien 3. Or even Alien Resurrection.

 

[Niceman]

You must be crazy if you think AvP was a better film than Alien 3. Or even Alien Resurrection.

Well, nothing after Aliens and until Prometheus was exactly a masterpiece...

 

[greygoose]

you must be crazy if you think avp was a better film than alien 3. Or even alien resurrection.

a3 > avp > avp:r > a:r

^Looks like I'm not allowed to post capital letters.

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

Well, nothing after Aliens and until Prometheus was exactly a masterpiece...

Alien 3 was a masterpiece. Up there with Alien and Aliens. The special version atleast.

And Goose...go watch Resurrection, AvP, and AvP:R again.

I'd say AvP is almost on par with Resurrection...but AvP:R is easily the worst of the bunch.

 

[greygoose]

And Goose...go watch Resurrection, AvP, and AvP:R again.

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

.....red x.

 

[Niceman]

Alien 3 was a masterpiece. Up there with Alien and Aliens. The special version atleast.

And Goose...go watch Resurrection, AvP, and AvP:R again.

I'd say AvP is almost on par with Resurrection...but AvP:R is easily the worst of the bunch.

Wow. I can't agree with that. Have you watched 3 recently? I think it's aged terribly and the dialogue is unintentionally funny. I used to defend it, but it feels 1990s in the worst sense.

 

[greygoose]

.....red x.

OK (hangs head) gif.

 

[Moonloop]

Alien 3 was a masterpiece. Up there with Alien and Aliens. The special version atleast.

And Goose...go watch Resurrection, AvP, and AvP:R again.

I'd say AvP is almost on par with Resurrection...but AvP:R is easily the worst of the bunch.

Alien 3 was most likely going to be ever better had FOX not been bugging Fincher so much. Fincher had major issues on set with FOX constantly sticking their nose in it, I think he walked off set a few times as a result. Fincher was also absent during the entire editing phase of the film...so very little influence of his was there in the end. Fincher didn't enjoy his time working on the film...he was the only director to decline doing the commentary for the Alien Quadrilogy set.

Also I think Resurrection could have been a great film had Joss Whedon been given more jurisdiction, and a logical choice for the director was made.

Joss has expressed his discontent for Alien: Resurrection. Saying that ultimately the film's story was the way he wrote it, but the direction was not what it was intended to be. Lines weren't said the way they were and actors didn't act the way they were...mainly because of the director they had directing things his way ignoring specifics of the script (unfortunately, for worse). The director for Alien: Resurrection didn't even speak English, they needed a translator on set; I would not hire any director for that reason alone.

"It wasn't a question of doing everything differently, although they changed the ending; it was mostly a matter of doing everything wrong. They said the lines...mostly...but they said them all wrong. And they cast it wrong. And they designed it wrong. And they scored it wrong. They did everything wrong that they could possibly do. There's actually a fascinating lesson in filmmaking, because everything that they did reflects back to the script or looks like something from the script, and people assume that, if I hated it, then they’d changed the script...but it wasn’t so much that they’d changed the script; it’s that they just executed it in such a ghastly fashion as to render it almost unwatchable." - Joss Whedon

 

[sgt.reese]

David needs to be rebuilt or fixed by the Engineers in the sequel. Also, Fassbender needs to play two roles: David and the human version. Maybe a military scientist that David was based on. Be interesting if the human David and Shaw form a love interest and see how David 8 reacts since it was obvious he had a thing for her. I would be disappointed if David 8 is terminated at the start of Prometheus II. The series needs to focus more on him

 

[Grosby]

What do you people think the likelihood is of HT making the Engineer at the beginning? That's probably my most wanted figure but I'm guessing that's a near-certain no. Would people agree? NECA though I'm thinking might do it though, which I'd be happy with.

 

[Star Puffs]

What do you people think the likelihood is of HT making the Engineer at the beginning? That's probably my most wanted figure but I'm guessing that's a near-certain no. Would people agree? NECA though I'm thinking might do it though, which I'd be happy with.

I think there is a high probability of an Engineer in space suit, in fact I think it would considerably outsell that Avatar figure. But other than a head, I do not see them developing the giant albino in loincloth look.

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

They said they have a ton of figures planned..so...maybe. I'd love a figure of him.

 

[EVILFACE]

What do you people think the likelihood is of HT making the Engineer at the beginning? That's probably my most wanted figure but I'm guessing that's a near-certain no. Would people agree? NECA though I'm thinking might do it though, which I'd be happy with.

I wouldn't want some pasty white dude in his underwear on my shelf.

In the Space Jockey suit, sure.

 

[Grosby]

Heh, I guess it could look strange. And that's all it probably could be too, just a man with no accessories, which adds against it further. In the film though I found that look intriguingly bizarre and striking, a great deal more so than in either suit.

I didn't know HT said they planned to do a lot. Even with hearing that though, I really find it very difficult to imagine them doing more than 2 or 3 figures. Maybe at best two Engineers, same versions as NECA has shown, and a suited David and either suited Noomi or Charlize Theron. At worst, one Engineer and David. I struggle to picture them doing any more than that.

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

Heh, I guess it could look strange. And that's all it probably could be too, no accessories, which adds against it. In the film though I found that look intriguingly bizarre and striking, a great deal more so than in either suit.

I didn't know HT said they planned to do a lot. Even with hearing that though, I really find it very difficult to imagine them doing more than 2 or 3 figures. Maybe at best two Engineers, same versions as NECA has shown, and a suited David and either suited Noomi or Charlize Theron. At worst, one Engineer and David.

Right. They didn't. I thought I was in the NECA thread.