1/6 Hot Toys Speculation Thread - Avengers 4
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gmoney5000
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Hmm, yeah I'm in agreement with the rest of you in regards to the BW sculpt...although I will reserve judgment until we get official photos.
I’m thinking we’re not gonna get Chunky War machine for quite a while since they probably want to push the current WM first.
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I was thinking the same thing too. Also, highly speculated there will be a War Machine Buster of some sort, hence the skinnier WM Mark6 in the End Game film.
Even if that is true, do we think Hot Toys will even make it and IF they do will it be along the lines of the PP Hulk Buster 2.0? I highly doubt they will spend the
time, money and effort like they did with V 1.0. So in a sense I'm not really excited for a Hot Toys release of a War Machine buster bc it will end up like 2.0 HB.
I do want to see the bulkier War Machine if there is one. Price point on the bulkier version? I'm guessing between $440 - $ 475? WM are usually more than IM suits.
Wow, that is a lot of cash.
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Just watched age of ultron in preperation and my God it does not hold up too well, probably the worst one to watch beforehand. But I'm in the end game now, nap time then film!
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I thought AoU was fine...I was entertained!
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I enjoyed it too. Especially the opening 15 minutes
Oh I agree. There are some really cool parts, like the Hulkbuster battle and Clint’s little chat with Scarlett Witch during the end battle. But overall AoU gets worse every time I watch it, with some legit cringe-worthy dialogue, flat out bad CGI in some spots, and overall a very muddied plot.
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I still get the feels when Fury shows up out of thin air (pun intended) with the helicarrier. Every time.
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I still have a fond place in my heart for AoU even though it's probably near the bottom of the series quality-wise, I even find the cheesy dialogue endearing. And the fact that it seeds Tony's "I fear being the only one left alive" moment is so great. But the biggest thing that bugs me and will probably always bug me is Whedon's version of Cap complaining about Iron Man cussing. Yes, Cap himself only curses under really good circumstances (ie, time to kill Thanos) but I don't believe for a second that somebody who fought in a war for years would be affronted by, or begrudge others, their filthy language. I remember seeing it for the first time and groaning hard for a second, right before the opening action won me back. Will definitely always prefer the Markus/McFeely version of Cap.
And just to stay on task... I bet we don't see chunky War Machine until summer at the very earliest, and maybe even longer, because they don't have to rush him out, since presumably nothing Iron Man or armor based is coming out for a while now. Even AoU waited to show off the 45 until the 43 had sold a bunch, and they still had to get everything out in time before basically remaking all the same characters for Civil War 1 year later.
And just to stay on task... I bet we don't see chunky War Machine until summer at the very earliest, and maybe even longer, because they don't have to rush him out, since presumably nothing Iron Man or armor based is coming out for a while now. Even AoU waited to show off the 45 until the 43 had sold a bunch, and they still had to get everything out in time before basically remaking all the same characters for Civil War 1 year later.
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I'm about to see Endgame right now, super excited, so can't expand on why I didn't enjoy AoU as much today - It's the first time I've seen it since its release. But in short I think Marvel films are looked back on favourably.
Didn't realise as well but Tony Stark says they're in the End Game now! Also Bruce says something about being in a time loop. Doubt they were meant in the way we think now, though.
Didn't realise as well but Tony Stark says they're in the End Game now! Also Bruce says something about being in a time loop. Doubt they were meant in the way we think now, though.
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I think Dr. Strange said “we’re in the end game now” as well in IW.
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It makes sense for the movie, but not really for Hot Toys. The issue is will Hot Toys make every single character? Haven't seen EG yet or any spoilers, but anything more than $450 better be a outstanding figure to say the least.
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I’m actually thinking we may not get this for quite some time. Maybe after the IW one comes out. Gotta figure the IW one isn’t out yet, there is also the Punisher WM and now Mk 6 from EG. If they drop the beast one in the next few months sales on the 6 will never go anywhere.
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Itll be a couple months after but after mark 4 in January of 2020? I'm not sure. They cannibalized sales with new thanos and mark 85. HT does odd things. Well see. I wonder what will be the first $500 figure? Larger figures like HB and such dont count.
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Just got back from watching it, some tired 4 in the morning thoughts and heavy spoilers:
Overall I really loved it, got teary in some parts. I think it wrapped nicely up a lot of characters stories. A lot of what happened is what I thought would and what others have said. Tony Stark sacrifices himself by snapping Thanos and his armies away, in the end killing himself also, with a very nice touching scene with Peter reminiscent of Infinity War. It's a lovely end to Tony's arc, and it's great that it pretty much centres around Tony and Steve. Steve finally gets his dance and kiss. He wields Mjolnir and Stormbreaker and kicks ****ing ass. He's great in this, everyone will want Cap from this film, this is THE Cap! There's a monumental great shot of Steve with his broken shield and heavily beaten up standing by himself confronting Thanos and his huge army. Professor Hulk has previously snapped everyone back into existence after they get all the infinity stones and at this moment a lot of portals open up and all who were lost flood in creating the Avengers army. We finally get Cap saying Avengers assemble!
Steve comes back to Falcon and Bucky as an old man. Not sure if he is staying in the future as an old man now as an advisory role, I think the idea is that he lived his life with Peggy, then came back to present time. He passes the shield to Falcon.
Thor -- my sort of favourite character. I get what they're doing with him and where they're going. He's been weakened heavily in this film and is the comedic relief. He's got zero power he did have pretty much. He's a visual pun as well as with his dialogue. And it does work. But I can't help but feel his character has been hard done by. On the flip side I do like his new character, sort of torn by it. Him wielding both Mjolnir and Stormbreaker should have been more epic, we should have seen him wreac havoc but he's nothing like he is in Ragnarok or Infinity War.
Black Widow :'(
Some people do remain dead in this film. Doctor Strange was wasted in a hilariously bad way.
A lot of the film feels like a long Ant Man film. But overall the tone, and pacing is great. Does not really feel like three hours.
The end battle is pretty epic.
Overall I think a lot of people are going to be very very happy. I imagine some people will be disappointed also, it does have its pits and isn't a perfect film. But as a culmination it wraps all the films up very nicely.
Captain Marvel I'm happy is barely in it, but when she is just gives off arrogance. Her power level... I don't understand it. She just flies through big ass ships and beats everyone down pretty much. Unbelievable that they weakened Thor so much and have this character as super powerful.
There's an all female shot in the end battle, which although lovely and badass... comes across as political and took me out of the film personally. In two minds about it, didn't feel natural.
But now it just feels like any problem they have in the future films they can always just time travel and fix things.
The whole time travel stuff I'm sure makes sense, but it all flew over my head.
Overall, can't wait to see it again. Late night musings, some opinions may change the more I think about it and see. As I type I'm more interested in this Thor, I just need to get over they I loved the character how he was and who he was become to an extent, but now they're all in with a very new portrayal - and I do like it's a culmination of all the parts that broke him as a person. They take the idea and run with it.
Steve comes back to Falcon and Bucky as an old man. Not sure if he is staying in the future as an old man now as an advisory role, I think the idea is that he lived his life with Peggy, then came back to present time. He passes the shield to Falcon.
Thor -- my sort of favourite character. I get what they're doing with him and where they're going. He's been weakened heavily in this film and is the comedic relief. He's got zero power he did have pretty much. He's a visual pun as well as with his dialogue. And it does work. But I can't help but feel his character has been hard done by. On the flip side I do like his new character, sort of torn by it. Him wielding both Mjolnir and Stormbreaker should have been more epic, we should have seen him wreac havoc but he's nothing like he is in Ragnarok or Infinity War.
Black Widow :'(
Some people do remain dead in this film. Doctor Strange was wasted in a hilariously bad way.
A lot of the film feels like a long Ant Man film. But overall the tone, and pacing is great. Does not really feel like three hours.
The end battle is pretty epic.
Overall I think a lot of people are going to be very very happy. I imagine some people will be disappointed also, it does have its pits and isn't a perfect film. But as a culmination it wraps all the films up very nicely.
Captain Marvel I'm happy is barely in it, but when she is just gives off arrogance. Her power level... I don't understand it. She just flies through big ass ships and beats everyone down pretty much. Unbelievable that they weakened Thor so much and have this character as super powerful.
There's an all female shot in the end battle, which although lovely and badass... comes across as political and took me out of the film personally. In two minds about it, didn't feel natural.
But now it just feels like any problem they have in the future films they can always just time travel and fix things.
The whole time travel stuff I'm sure makes sense, but it all flew over my head.
Overall, can't wait to see it again. Late night musings, some opinions may change the more I think about it and see. As I type I'm more interested in this Thor, I just need to get over they I loved the character how he was and who he was become to an extent, but now they're all in with a very new portrayal - and I do like it's a culmination of all the parts that broke him as a person. They take the idea and run with it.
Is there a War Buster suit in the movie?
GaryPool
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War Buster? No idea what that is. Only buster suit in the film are the one that Bruce was in form Infinity War at the beginning fo the film. War Machine is in the one revealed by Hot Toys for most of the film which I think a lot of people consider lesser than his IW version. Thne at the end of the film when Thanos' ship arrives at the Avengers HQ and blows everything up WM gets stuck under all the rubble and detonates the suit to get out. Then somehow when he's out and back on the ground he's in a new extremely bulky and ugly looking suit reminiscent of the Iron Patriot.
I mean I really dislike WM as a character in the MCU and think his armours look trash, so I'm probably bias, but the IP type bulky one look bloody awful. Any fan of WM will be disappointed by his suits in this film. IW is probably the superior version, if he even has one at all.
I mean I really dislike WM as a character in the MCU and think his armours look trash, so I'm probably bias, but the IP type bulky one look bloody awful. Any fan of WM will be disappointed by his suits in this film. IW is probably the superior version, if he even has one at all.
I just cam back watching. It’s a 10/10 movie for me. I’m interested in Thor figure now
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