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Putting Hayden Christensen in at end of Jedi has my vote for worst thing Lucas did. I still can not unsee that image. My jaw dropped and said wtf and nooooooooooooooooo! I watched the SE's when they came out on DVD the first time and have not watched SE Jedi or ANH since. Empire was not too bad. I am a kid of the 70's and 80's and saw the OT in theaters when they came out. At least I have the memories.

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Yep. Biggest F U of all.
 
Putting Hayden Christensen in at end of Jedi has my vote for worst thing Lucas did. I still can not unsee that image. My jaw dropped and said wtf and nooooooooooooooooo! I watched the SE's when they came out on DVD the first time and have not watched SE Jedi or ANH since. Empire was not too bad. I am a kid of the 70's and 80's and saw the OT in theaters when they came out. At least I have the memories.

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What I love is how proud Lucas was of this. I remember an interview where he talked about how Hayden had no idea he was shooting him to be inserted into the movie. The worst thing is that you can tell! He is just standing there awkwardly. So bad.
 
I don't know what any of you are talking about. When I heard the 'new content' I avoided them like the plague :)
 
Alec Guinness has big smile because he is finally done with Star Wars.

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Someone needs to create a forum id for Alec Guiness and then post something by him in a thread every day. That was ****ing brilliant.

You don't want to go too far. That letter's from a newer bio - this quote is from the last round of Guiness bios 10+ years ago:

"Guinness, who died last August aged 86, was arrested, charged and fined in court in Liverpool in 1946 for a homosexual act in a public lavatory."

He was clearly a very complicated guy totally at odds with the simplicity of the role he's best remembered for.
 
Putting Hayden Christensen in at end of Jedi has my vote for worst thing Lucas did. I still can not unsee that image. My jaw dropped and said wtf and nooooooooooooooooo! I watched the SE's when they came out on DVD the first time and have not watched SE Jedi or ANH since. Empire was not too bad. I am a kid of the 70's and 80's and saw the OT in theaters when they came out. At least I have the memories.

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I'll burn in hell for this, but I like Haydenkin in there instead of that old fart.
And I watched the OT in the theatres back in the 70's and 80's.
 
Putting Hayden Christensen in at end of Jedi has my vote for worst thing Lucas did. I still can not unsee that image. My jaw dropped and said wtf and nooooooooooooooooo! I watched the SE's when they came out on DVD the first time and have not watched SE Jedi or ANH since. Empire was not too bad. I am a kid of the 70's and 80's and saw the OT in theaters when they came out. At least I have the memories.

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The funny thing about swapping out Hayden for the scene is that basically Lucas is saying the guy who betrayed his friends, mentors and fellow Jedi, slaughtered a room full of younglings, killed hundreds or maybe thousands of jedi, force choke demoted a number of admirals, committed an untold number of war crimes and atrocities, and was either directly responsible or an accessory to the genocide of literally billions, gets to spend eternity as a dashing 20-year-old force ghost while Obi-Wan stays in his sixties. And no wonder Yoda looks pissed. He's probably thinking "WTF!!! This is my friggin reward!?! If I'd turned to the dark side centuries ago, I could have spent the last 800 years kicking ass, chasing tail and boozing it up, then do the ole' switchback on my deathbed and I'd have been a young ghost too. Crap!"

I also thought that instead of simply switching Vader to the James Earl Jones voice you would have thought a sound designer would have been able to come up with some kind of a blend between Christensen, JEJ and the breathing mask. That completely took me out of the scene, because you knew it was no longer the same person. I think it was either just plain lazy or they figured the audience would be too stupid to understand.
 
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The funny thing about swapping out Hayden for the scene is that basically Lucas is saying the guy who betrayed his friends, mentors and fellow Jedi, slaughtered a room full of younglings, killed hundreds or maybe thousands of jedi, force choke demoted a number of admirals, committed an untold number of war crimes and atrocities, and was either directly responsible or an accessory to the genocide of literally billions, gets to spend eternity as a dashing 20-year-old force ghost while Obi-Wan stays in his sixties. And no wonder Yoda looks pissed. He's probably thinking "That's my friggin reward!?! If I'd turned to the dark side centuries ago, I could have spent the last 800 years kicking ass, chasing tail and boozing it up, then do the ole' switchback on my deathbed and I'd have been a young ghost too. Crap!"

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I just thank god that Lucas didn't have masked Darth Vader as a force ghost, chuckling it up with the other two.
 
The funny thing about swapping out Hayden for the scene is that basically Lucas is saying the guy who betrayed his friends, mentors and fellow Jedi, slaughtered a room full of younglings, killed hundreds or maybe thousands of jedi, force choke demoted a number of admirals, committed an untold number of war crimes and atrocities, and was either directly responsible or an accessory to the genocide of literally billions, gets to spend eternity as a dashing 20-year-old force ghost while Obi-Wan stays in his sixties. And no wonder Yoda looks pissed. He's probably thinking "WTF!!! This is my friggin reward!?! If I'd turned to the dark side centuries ago, I could have spent the last 800 years kicking ass, chasing tail and boozing it up, then do the ole' switchback on my deathbed and I'd have been a young ghost too. Crap!"

I also thought that instead of simply switching Vader to the James Earl Jones voice you would have thought a sound designer would have been able to come up with some kind of a blend between Christensen, JEJ and the breathing mask. That completely took me out of the scene, because you knew it was no longer the same person. I think it was either just plain lazy or they figured the audience would be too stupid to understand.

Actually I thought the James Earl Jones voice was perfect. It was the mechanical, through-the-mask voice.

As far as Haydenkin ghost, I do understand the logic, or lack thereof, but that fat old man just never did it for me. I remember seeing the movie way back then and thinking "WTF?". This can't be Anakin Skywalker, the powerful apprentice who turned to the dark side and became the most amazing villain ever. It just didn't add up.
At least when you see Hayden you see the failed apprentice and you can make the connection. And he does look somehow contrite and uncomfortable in that scene, which works much better for me than the amused fatherly smile of the old fat guy.
 
I think they should have dropped this guy in there too, sort of Jim Belushi in a Sith robe. Dark side, light side, in-the-middle - everything's forgiven in death.

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And can't wait to see this guy live forever in luminescent blue...

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The funny thing about swapping out Hayden for the scene is that basically Lucas is saying the guy who betrayed his friends, mentors and fellow Jedi, slaughtered a room full of younglings, killed hundreds or maybe thousands of jedi, force choke demoted a number of admirals, committed an untold number of war crimes and atrocities, and was either directly responsible or an accessory to the genocide of literally billions, gets to spend eternity as a dashing 20-year-old force ghost while Obi-Wan stays in his sixties. And no wonder Yoda looks pissed. He's probably thinking "WTF!!! This is my friggin reward!?! If I'd turned to the dark side centuries ago, I could have spent the last 800 years kicking ass, chasing tail and boozing it up, then do the ole' switchback on my deathbed and I'd have been a young ghost too. Crap!"

I also thought that instead of simply switching Vader to the James Earl Jones voice you would have thought a sound designer would have been able to come up with some kind of a blend between Christensen, JEJ and the breathing mask. That completely took me out of the scene, because you knew it was no longer the same person. I think it was either just plain lazy or they figured the audience would be too stupid to understand.

Life ain't fair.
 
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