Hot Toys TDKR: 1/4th scale Batman [QS001] - Full Reveal & Specs

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You guys should wait for the unavoidable TDK Enterbay Batman. That figure will be the definitive Batman.

And if you look at the DX12 thread you'll not see any complains at all. That's a place where guys takes a bunch of crappy pictures over and over of the same inaccurate figure, with several modifications. They talk about rainbows and butterflys.. sure just:

- change the head
- change the cape
- change the face plates

Expend 200+ extra in modifications And the DX12 still looks awful.

And yet the DX12 was named figure of the year in the 2012.

PS: The Enterbay OC Batman don't collect dust at all!! I don't know what some guy was talking about...

Mate we have understood your hate about DX12... Don't come back again and again please... I can't say DX12 is FOTY, but i like the figure very much and in my opinion with cape, faceplate and painting eyelids mods become great! But that's for me...

1/4 Hottoys bats will be a gret figure too, even it is just the proto. The point is that for 600 usd the figure must be perfect...
 
Mate we have understood your hate about DX12... Don't come back again and again please... I can't say DX12 is FOTY, but i like the figure very much and in my opinion with cape, faceplate and painting eyelids mods become great! But that's for me...

1/4 Hottoys bats will be a gret figure too, even it is just the proto. The point is that for 600 usd the figure must be perfect...

I love my DX12...I just don't get the controversey about it!
 
The controversy is that it was attempt number 3 at that suit and it was still done wrong. The fabric undersuit was the only new thing about it really, along with the new Wayne sculpt. Otherwise you were as well to stick with your DX02. It didn't really improve anything else.

I passed on it because of the eyes alone.
 
The controversy is that it was attempt number 3 at that suit and it was still done wrong. The fabric undersuit was the only new thing about it really, along with the new Wayne sculpt. Otherwise you were as well to stick with your DX02. It didn't really improve anything else.

I passed on it because of the eyes alone.

It was a major improvement from the DX02, that figure had too long of a neck and the mouth plates were a bit "odd" i think the DX12 was great, you could even get decent poseability out of it. My only fixable issue with DX12 was the gauntlets which were too long and that might be the same with this QS001 but as i said it was a simple enough fix. Apart from that it was quite acceptable, and the bruce wayne sculpt was also a very good job on Hot Toys part. He actually had an aged look about him, 1 thing about this 1/4 scale is that the bruce wayne sculpt looks more like TDK version than TDKR. Thats my opinion though, otherwise i think this figure is the best 1/4 scale by Hot Toys that will put them firmly in a great position when it comes to figures this size. Granted at the moment it might be Enterbay with the Begins suit, but watch this space... Lol
 
It was a major improvement from the DX02, that figure had too long of a neck and the mouth plates were a bit "odd" i think the DX12 was great, you could even get decent poseability out of it. My only fixable issue with DX12 was the gauntlets which were too long and that might be the same with this QS001 but as i said it was a simple enough fix. Apart from that it was quite acceptable, and the bruce wayne sculpt was also a very good job on Hot Toys part. He actually had an aged look about him, 1 thing about this 1/4 scale is that the bruce wayne sculpt looks more like TDK version than TDKR. Thats my opinion though, otherwise i think this figure is the best 1/4 scale by Hot Toys that will put them firmly in a great position when it comes to figures this size. Granted at the moment it might be Enterbay with the Begins suit, but watch this space... Lol

I think before you suggest that this will be the best 1/4 scale figure that Hot Toys has ever made, that we wait until it is actually in some ones hands, and THEN pass judgement.:sleep
 
I think before you suggest that this will be the best 1/4 scale figure that Hot Toys has ever made, that we wait until it is actually in some ones hands, and THEN pass judgement.:sleep

Fair comment, hopefully my hands first as i preordered it september last year lol but i would like to state now that im a huge DC fan before im a Hot Toys fan so either way this figure is going to blow my mind. Im not that kind of collector who starts weeping because the bat symbol is 0.1mm too high or low on the suit lol i like accuracy but im not the stephen hawking of collectibles :p
 
To me, The real FOTY should be any figure that requires NO MODIFICATIONS at all, especially pricey ones on top of the already hefty pricetag. Sure, modfications are optional, but if the optional mod involves THE LIKENESS of the figure when HT takes pride on details and likeness from the source material, then it's not FOTY worthy IMO.
I agree, but did that many people really say DX12 was figure of the year? Are you referring to a poll here on the forums?

I see that over and over (not specifically your post), posts to the tune of "I'm in the minority who likes realistic figures and therefore don't like the DX12" as if they are gifted in some way at discerning 1/6 figure realism, while the rest of us have inferior taste or artistic talents...but the DX12 thread became cluttered with so many customs pictures, I could hardly find pics of the stock figure. :lol

It seemed clear to me that almost all the people who didn't mod the figure were either people who couldn't afford it, or thought it was too much trouble (I'm in the latter category).

Maybe I just overlooked all the posts praising it (I did see a few I admit), but it felt like 98% of the posts were "it looks better modded" or "it's not perfect, but it's good enough for me", neither of which implies the figure was perfect (and it most certainly is not perfect IMO). :dunno
 
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You guys should wait for the unavoidable TDK Enterbay Batman. That figure will be the definitive Batman.
If you're lucky enough to get the one without QC issues that ruin any possible enjoyment you might get out the figure. :lol
 
I agree, but did that many people really say DX12 was figure of the year? Are you referring to a poll here on the forums?

I see that over and over (not specifically your post), posts to the tune of "I'm in the minority who likes realistic figures and therefore don't like the DX12" as if they are gifted in some way at discerning 1/6 figure realism, while the rest of us have inferior taste or artistic talents...but the DX12 thread became cluttered with so many customs pictures, I could hardly find pics of the stock figure. :lol

It seemed clear to me that almost all the people who didn't mod the figure were either people who couldn't afford it, or thought it was too much trouble (I'm in the latter category).

Maybe I just overlooked all the posts praising it (I did see a few I admit), but it felt like 98% of the posts were "it looks better modded" or "it's not perfect, but it's good enough for me", neither of which implies the figure was perfect (and it most certainly is not perfect IMO). :dunno

Snap to evrything you said lol :D
 
You guys should wait for the unavoidable TDK Enterbay Batman. That figure will be the definitive Batman.

If by unavoidable you mean "inevitable" then I wouldn't be so quick to assume. Enterbay isn't stupid. They don't want to go toe to toe with Hot Toys. Making the same figure in the same scale as them would be doing just that. IF they release a 1/4 TDK version suit, it will be a very long time before that happens.

And I truly love my Enterbay Batman. But i'm not convinced that they would nail a TDK Trilogy suit. The cowl should be a definite hit only because they've proven they could do it in one shot. However, with QC issues and the initial "belly" on the figure, belt not fitting around the waist, and the overall need to do modifications to get it right, it's not a guarantee.

The original costume is a much easier and simpler costume to get correct. The 2nd suit is so much more complex and detailed. Hot Toys 1/4 Bats could potentially be the definitive Batman. None of us even know what it currently looks like.
 
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If you're lucky enough to get the one without QC issues that ruin any possible enjoyment you might get out the figure. :lol

I rather prefer to deal with Enterbay's QC issues, than deal with Hot Toys "accuracy control (AC)" issues... It's like if there is nobody there to tell Hot Toys.."hey, any of your Batman figures, really looks like Christian Bale"

Some of the issues can be fixed easily.

If by unavoidable you mean "inevitable" then I wouldn't be so quick to assume. Enterbay isn't stupid. They don't want to go toe to toe with Hot Toys. Making the same figure in the same scale as them would be doing just that. IF they release a 1/4 TDK version suit, it will be a very long time before that happens.

And I truly love my Enterbay Batman. But i'm not convinced that they would nail a TDK Trilogy suit. The cowl should be a definite hit only because they've proven they could do it in one shot. However, with QC issues and the initial "belly" on the figure, belt not fitting around the waist, and the overall need to do modifications to get it right, it's not a guarantee.

The original costume is a much easier and simpler costume to get correct. The 2nd suit is so much more complex and detailed. Hot Toys 1/4 Bats could potentially be the definitive Batman. None of us even know what it currently looks like.

I think Enterbay is no affraid to go one on one against Hot Toys... Enterbay knows they will beat Hot Toys in accuracy any day.. I think Enterbay is not going to release a TDK costume yet mostly because they don't want to kill their sales on the 1/4 OC.

And well after seeing the Enterbay 1/4 T2 BD, I think Enterbay is capable of doing pretty cmplex figures, there is no doubt about it. And as I said before, I prefer any day to deal with Entebay QC issues than to deal with Hot Toys AC issues.
 
I rather prefer to deal with Enterbay's QC issues, than deal with Hot Toys "accuracy control (AC)" issues... It's like if there is nobody there to tell Hot Toys.."hey, any of your Batman figures, really looks like Christian Bale"

Some of the issues can be fixed easily.
HT definitely isn't perfect, but I certainly don't think EB has reached perfection either. But that's mostly a matter of taste. About the QC and AC stuff, to each their own, I respect your opinion. I can't stand QC issues.

My frustration with EB comes from the fact that I actually want a lot of their figures, but it's such a gamble with QC and overall poor quality bodies and material, that I feel like they waste the licenses whenever they get them (MIB, Bruce Lee, etc.)

I'll leave it at that, I'm derailing the thread. No hard feelings with you of course, it's just pieces of plastic we're talking about. :wave
 
If by unavoidable you mean "inevitable" then I wouldn't be so quick to assume. Enterbay isn't stupid. They don't want to go toe to toe with Hot Toys. Making the same figure in the same scale as them would be doing just that. IF they release a 1/4 TDK version suit, it will be a very long time before that happens.

And I truly love my Enterbay Batman. But i'm not convinced that they would nail a TDK Trilogy suit. The cowl should be a definite hit only because they've proven they could do it in one shot. However, with QC issues and the initial "belly" on the figure, belt not fitting around the waist, and the overall need to do modifications to get it right, it's not a guarantee.

The original costume is a much easier and simpler costume to get correct. The 2nd suit is so much more complex and detailed. Hot Toys 1/4 Bats could potentially be the definitive Batman. None of us even know what it currently looks like.

Totally agree mate, Enterbay seem to be nailing the sculpts yes but the overall bodywork is beaten by Hot Toys straight up. I think if Enterbay did a TDK suit the QC issues would be through the roof and many people who have their Begins suit werent too pleased with it, the paintwork was spot on but problems like the belt wouldnt fit properly on the lower abdomen and the poseability was really limited, and iv been told by my cousin who has had the figure for 2 weeks now that the accessories fall off the belt quite easily if you handle it. Put with that the quite narrow minded, cheap feeling packaging, i would take Hot Toys any day.

But Enterbay do occasionally make u proud to own one of their pieces, im a huge fan of scarface and ordered both versions direct from Enterbay. On one of them the arm and ankle peg was broken so had to send that back for a replacement. But in terms of the likeness and overall feel of the figures in hand, i was a happy bunny. Then again what might Hot Toys be able to do with a scarface licence...? Definitly more accessories and most probably a PERS head lol
 
Totally agree mate, Enterbay seem to be nailing the sculpts yes but the overall bodywork is beaten by Hot Toys straight up. I think if Enterbay did a TDK suit the QC issues would be through the roof and many people who have their Begins suit werent too pleased with it, the paintwork was spot on but problems like the belt wouldnt fit properly on the lower abdomen and the poseability was really limited, and iv been told by my cousin who has had the figure for 2 weeks now that the accessories fall off the belt quite easily if you handle it. Put with that the quite narrow minded, cheap feeling packaging, i would take Hot Toys any day.

But Enterbay do occasionally make u proud to own one of their pieces, im a huge fan of scarface and ordered both versions direct from Enterbay. On one of them the arm and ankle peg was broken so had to send that back for a replacement. But in terms of the likeness and overall feel of the figures in hand, i was a happy bunny. Then again what might Hot Toys be able to do with a scarface licence...? Definitly more accessories and most probably a PERS head lol


-The belt on EB Batman not sitting much lower is a DESIGN FLAW, not a QC issue. EB must have made use of the "wrong" screen captures where Bale's utility belt sat higher due to movement/action, instead of referring to promotional photos for the film. If you look at HT's 1/6 version of the Begins Suit, the belt doesn't sit as good too, as you can still see the lower abdominal plates of the armor, though it's not as bad as EB's out of the box.

-Poseability being limited -- show me a 1/6 figure fully suited with rubber/vinyl overalls and show me articulated. Yes. It's not just EB. If HT came up with a Batman Begins in 1/4, he might be just as stoic. DX09 can't move well. DX02 can't move well. DX12 with the highly regarded mixed-media suit only benefited the arms and some still opted to remove the inner suit just so DX12 can sit on the Batpod. Heck, even the actors -- from Keaton to Bale can't move well inside their suits. Can't we be realistic for once and not blame it on the manufacturers of the toy?

-never had problems with mine whenever I clean my EB bat's belt. All the magnetic stuff stays even if I used a hand-squeeze air blower. My DX12 though can't handle his sticky bomb gun too long, same with DX09's grappling hook on his belt. But I don't generalize "oh HT sucks magnets can't keep anything on".

- Packaging -- EB's packaging is actually highly regarded by more collectors than ever. Sure, it's not a thing of beauty and it looks cheap, but it doesn't feel cheap. It doesn't get banged up on the corners, keeps everything inside secure (which is first and foremost THE job of the packaging), kept shipping costs low with its being lightweight yet sturdy, and saves you the headache of thinking where to keep it, unless you plan to resell it in the future. I don't see narrow minded in UTILITARIAN-designed packaging, not at all.

Like I said before, if EB Batman had Hot Toys on its cover, more people would have bought it and complained less regardless of issues. Because that's the truth, and that's what I see as narrow-minded.

ON the other hand It's worth noting that the last EB 1/4 to have come out, the BD t800, had less if none at all QC issues, and a lot of us hope it as a good sign as far as their future releases are concerned.

Oh well, I'll just wait for QS001 and see if it's worth keeping.:dunno
 
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Last words from me regarding this topic...1/4 hottoys bat will be a great and impressive figure, even if hottoys release the proto without any changes...The base, the gear and the suit at hottoys quality level will be the reason, but in my opinion the final product will be better than the proto!
 
Last words from me regarding this topic...1/4 hottoys bat will be a great and impressive figure, even if hottoys release the proto without any changes...The base, the gear and the suit at hottoys quality level will be the reason, but in my opinion the final product will be better than the proto!

What's great and impressive is so fuzzy.... what's great for you, I'm pretty sure will not be good enough for me (considering you like the QS001 proto)... Rather I use the word "accurate" and based not just in the proto yet in every single Nolan's Batman figure from Hot Toys... I can for sure tell that the QS001 will not be "accurate", you may like it or not but it won't be "accurate"
 
What's great and impressive is so fuzzy.... what's great for you, I'm pretty sure will not be good enough for me (considering you like the QS001 proto)... Rather I use the word "accurate" and based not just in the proto yet in every single Nolan's Batman figure from Hot Toys... I can for sure tell that the QS001 will not be "accurate", you may like it or not but it won't be "accurate"

Sorry you don't like it mate...i am glad for this figure! Fortunately many fellow freaks will help us making the figure as accurate as possible!
 
Last words from me regarding this topic...1/4 hottoys bat will be a great and impressive figure, even if hottoys release the proto without any changes...The base, the gear and the suit at hottoys quality level will be the reason, but in my opinion the final product will be better than the proto!

And THIS is why HT does what it does.
People just blindly buying their stuff and pretending everything is perfect when it clearly isn't.
I have my doubts with this figure, WILL NOT buy it (or preorder it ) until I see any in hand pics. And that, I believe, is how a customer should speak to a company (with our wallets) so that they know we are not buying into the hype anymore. This things are expensive, this batman is almost double of what the EB one costed me, and yes, while it has some problems, they are completely overshadowed by one very simple fact: the EB BB 1/4 Batman looks like everything a 1/4 BB Batman should look like. Not my opinion, not how I personally want to see it, but a dead, cold FACT.
 
And THIS is why HT does what it does.
People just blindly buying their stuff and pretending everything is perfect when it clearly isn't.
I have my doubts with this figure, WILL NOT buy it (or preorder it ) until I see any in hand pics. And that, I believe, is how a customer should speak to a company (with our wallets) so that they know we are not buying into the hype anymore. This things are expensive, this batman is almost double of what the EB one costed me, and yes, while it has some problems, they are completely overshadowed by one very simple fact: the EB BB 1/4 Batman looks like everything a 1/4 BB Batman should look like. Not my opinion, not how I personally want to see it, but a dead, cold FACT.

Ok! Don't buy it... so simple.You have no right to say I blindly buy figures. If you want the perfect figure, it is your problem. I want things to be changed like the cowl BUT i' 'll buy this figure for sure. This will be the best 1/4 tdk batman yet and I can't wait EB to release ( if they release) their tdk batman.
 
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