Action Figure Hot Toys - VGM17 - Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance - Raiden

[Solidus]

It's funny, the guy doesn't even play MGS games. He's completely ignorant about the storylines, and months backed, he talked about "Icarus Plissken" in MGS 2. No idea why this vegetable continues to hang out here, just to opine about nonsense.

And FYI, potato, I was told that the mods are keeping an eye on you. Wise-up, start talking intelligently, and quit spouting your nonsense all over the damn forum.

 

[FSLAR]

It was temporarily changed to Snake from Raiden by the GW AI masquerading as Colonel Campbell for the purposes of the Big Shell S3 simulation.

That doesn't make him a member of the family.

That probably won't make a difference Solidus, sad as it is

 

[potato]

It was temporarily changed to Snake from Raiden by the GW AI masquerading as Colonel Campbell for the purposes of the Big Shell S3 simulation.

That doesn't make him a member of the family.

Well if that is the case Big Boss would also not qualify to be called as Snake since he was changed from Snake to Big Boss, you can see Snake as a temporary short term call sign for Big Boss too.

Why you guys just couldn't accept Raiden as he is? Denying Raiden of his Snake family just shows how big of a MGS1 Solid Snake fanboy you are. You just couldn't accept that he took over snake as the main character in just 1 of the installment.

 

[potato]

It's funny, the guy doesn't even play MGS games. He's completely ignorant about the storylines, and months backed, he talked about "Icarus Plissken" in MGS 2. No idea why this vegetable continues to hang out here, just to opine about nonsense.

And FYI, potato, I was told that the mods are keeping an eye on you. Wise-up, start talking intelligently, and quit spouting your nonsense all over the damn forum.

yea and so you were told, but if you want to discredit Raiden to such extreme degree, shouldn't you do it in the General MGS thread? This is in fact a HT Raiden thread. also i never said anything about Raiden > Solid Snake just to begin with so i don't know what the ruckus.

 

[Solidus]

No one's discrediting Raiden, you're just very ignorant about basic facts of this series, and are pushing arguments for no reason at all.

 

[potato]

That probably won't make a difference Solidus, sad as it is

you made it sound like MGS2 was all just a simulation, but it was the real deal. a test or a drill you & the AI may call it, but it was for real for the rest of the characters. the fact that he was given the call sign snake shows that he was indeed snake, even if it was for less than 24 hours. Whether it was the Real Campbell or AI or Patriots that gave him the callsign doesn't really matter, also his skills does indeed qualify him as having the Snake callsign. It's not like Meryl gave Johnny Snake as his callsign.

 

[potato]

No one's discrediting Raiden, you're just very ignorant about basic facts of this series. It's unbelievable that you even try to argue about things you don't even know about.

I made the thread, thank you very much. So, if you don't have anything of significant value to add, please take your leave.

If you bring out the script from MGS1 to MGSV, it's probably few thousand pages long, all you need is to take the parts where it suits your argument just to show your facts are correct and mine totally wrong. Raiden got past his past after MGS2, but not Snake, Snake was still struggling with his past up until the end of MGS4, Raiden became kind of a cold character not because of his past prior to MGS2 but the incidents that took place during MGS2 and after MGS2, for instance where Otacon's sister got killed, and stories that were never told between MGS2 & MGS4 which resulted in him becoming a cyborg. That story alone would warrant another 1 or 2 MGS installment starring Raiden once Konami is done with Big Boss.

 

[Solidus]

Raiden got past his past after MGS2

No he didn't.

Snake was still struggling with his past up until the end of MGS4

No he wasn't.

Both reasons were explained to you before, in depth, from multiple people. I'm not going to do this dance again. Go play a MGS game and stop ****ing up the thread.

 

[CollectorGuy]

No he didn't.



No he wasn't.

Both reasons were explained to you before, in depth, from multiple people. I'm not going to do this dance again. Go play a MGS game and stop ****ing up the thread.

Stop feeding the troll man

 

[potato]

i never quite understand whenever someone writes something not in favor of the majority's favourite character, it all ends up like WWII. i mean they aren't even real people but fictional, i'd imagine how it'd be if it's a real person that they are really fond of.

whether it's Raiden & Snakes, Ironman & Batman, PS3 & Xbox360, Ford & Honda, RE1 & RE2, even to keep a toy in a box or open it up, it never ends as a friendly conversation & always ends up a heated argument.

 

[Plastic Bateman]

Well if that is the case Big Boss would also not qualify to be called as Snake since he was changed from Snake to Big Boss, you can see Snake as a temporary short term call sign for Big Boss too.

Why you guys just couldn't accept Raiden as he is? Denying Raiden of his Snake family just shows how big of a MGS1 Solid Snake fanboy you are. You just couldn't accept that he took over snake as the main character in just 1 of the installment.

Metal Gear Rising is my favourite MG game to date. You being factually incorrect does not make me a 'fanboy' of anything.

 

[CollectorGuy]

don't feed the TROLL!!!

 

[potato]

Metal Gear Rising is my favourite MG game to date. You being factually incorrect does not make me a 'fanboy' of anything.

he bears the callsign Snake at the beginning of MGS2 after the tanker incident, i don't understand why you just don't accept that he was Snake, i mean is it really a big deal? in your resume if you worked in McDonalds as a branch manager for 1 week, you'd put it in your list of past working experience right? unless it's something embarrassing. i'm not saying Raiden is still Snake, the same way as Big Boss is no longer Snake, well both of them was. you don't accept Raiden as having his Snake callsign simply because it was assigned by an AI instead of Campbell. anyway it's not that important but i'm just awed at they way you guys see things when it comes to something you don't quite agree on.

 

[Plastic Bateman]

he bears the callsign Snake at the beginning of MGS2 after the tanker incident, i don't understand why you just don't accept that he was Snake, i mean is it really a big deal? in your resume if you worked in McDonalds as a branch manager for 1 week, you'd put it in your list of past working experience right? unless it's something embarrassing. i'm not saying Raiden is still Snake, the same way as Big Boss is no longer Snake, well both of them was. you don't accept Raiden as having his Snake callsign simply because it was assigned by an AI instead of Campbell. anyway it's not that important but i'm just awed at they way you guys see things when it comes to something you don't quite agree on.

 

[Henry Morgan*]

Oh this thread

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[CollectorGuy]

Oh please he was snake just for the GW purposes, it changes his name to RAIDEN like 10 seconds in the game

 

[potato]

Oh please he was snake just for the GW purposes, it changes his name to RAIDEN like 10 seconds in the game

yes from the gamers point of view he only had the Snake codesign for 10 seconds (seriously?), but from storyline wise, can't remember but was he assigned as Snake on site too? Snake was just 1 of the callsign in Foxhound, as long as the person possess the skills & ability that suited the callsign. The reason it was changed to Raiden was because they don't want to confuse between Solid Snake and Snake. but still the fact that Raiden beared the Snake callsign, and if it weren't for the mission confusion he'd still be called Snake. anyway same thing for Big Boss, no one would call Big Boss snake unless they are talking about MGS3, so that sounds right too not to treat Raiden as Snake, unless you are talking about MGS2.

 

[potato]

Anyway back to HT Raiden, if they really do MGS2 Raiden, i would want rooted hair. I mean we all want a right down to the bone accurate figure right? no one would deny the fact that Raiden's hair was a big feature in the game, i mean everybody noticed his free flowing soft & light hair everytime he runs or does a somersault flip right? Even the different colored wigs played a big part of the game. Sideshow should consider at least 2 different colored wigs as Exclusive should there be a release. I strongly disagree with the sculpted hair for MGS2 Raiden. For MGS4 & MGR i can understand since he's now a Cyborg on heavy duty synthetic hair that can withstand slashes/fire/electricity & whatnot.

But the hair was definitely a feature in MGS2. Even during the codec scenes when you tilt Raiden around with the analog stick.

 

[Jameson Rook]

Metal Gear Rising is my favourite MG game to date. You being factually incorrect does not make me a 'fanboy' of anything.

Smart man.

MGS2, MGS1 and Rising are my absolute favorites of the whole series. Not that it's bad, but MGS3 doesn't excite me as much nowadays and it feels dated, sorry.

 

[potato]

Smart man.

MGS2, MGS1 and Rising are my absolute favorites of the whole series. Not that it's bad, but MGS3 doesn't excite me as much nowadays and it feels dated, sorry.

how bout Twin Snake?

I only played MGS3 once, not even tried Subsistence coz not a 60's fan. MGS4 was nice to look at and casual gaming, i love the soundtracks on the codecs & the outfits you can choose from. Policenauts, Snatcher, way better soundtrack than all MGS series.