Iron Man 3 Discussion Thread

[Laney74]

Tony has never had an arc reactor in his chest in the comics. Yes he used to wear a vest that keep the shrapnel from killing him, that also powered the armor for a while, but that disappeared years ago. The reactor is now just built into all of the armor. This explains how the mk42 armour looses power after it crashes, but Tony gets out and he is fine.

The removal of the arc reactor, when put into consideration that he has solved the extremis problem (in order to remove it from Pepper) and his starting to use sub-dermal technologies all points to extremis being utilised by Iron man next movie. In that his statement that he is Iron Man at the end of the film could possibly be a pointer to him having Iron Man 'in' him and that more than just the arc reactor removed at the end of the movie happened in that surgery.

I do wish they had given Pepper an arc reactor though, rather than extremis, could have been achieved as a result of the attack on the house. Would have loved to see Rescue as well.

 

[KBA]

Iron Man 3 was ****. One of those ****s that you have to focus on and sweat just to pinch off and then clogs the toilet after. The director must have loved a lot of what I disliked about Iron Man 2: what was with all the shark jumping crap?

 

[Adolfo]

Well, I'm back. Finally got to see it tonight. Felt like an eternity after everyone considering this movie came out overseas a while ago. Well, let me start by saying this: I love Iron Man. The first Iron Man movie is my most favorite movie of ALL TIME. More so than my beloved classics like Terminator 2, Predator or Aliens. I always defended the Iron Man franchise and even IM2. People like to criticize that movie, but I love Iron Man 2... I truly think it's a great movie.

With all that being said, I hated Iron Man 3. HATED IT. From the very start I felt like it was garbage. I feel this movie is almost a bad joke. I was sitting there, thinking it couldn't be actually happening. Seriously, I'm so fresh out of the movie and so disappointed I don't even know where to start. Was there even a point in this movie? At all? What was the purpose of this movie, can someone tell me? I felt like it only exists as and excuse to show off a bunch of useless suits.

• I mean, the Mandarin fiasco. - Absolutely ridiculous.
  
• That whole thing with that stupid kid (funny but went on for way to long. It was ultimately, completely unnecessary).
  
• The lack or Iron Man action scenes. Even the plane rescue sucked. It's hard to feel anything towards it when you find out Tony wasn't even in the suit.
  
• The sheer stupidity that was EVERYTHING related to the Iron Patriot (never even fired a single damn shot, not ONCE!). Why is he even in the movie. What kind of piece of crap armor is that, that anybody can put it on without any safety protocols. How can it get deactivated so quickly and easily by a "hand shake".
  
• The fact that there was very little Iron Man in the movie. He wasn't even inside the armor half the time. They just completely erased the whole purpose of him being Iron Man. Why would he wear an armor and be in combat in person if he can just control a whole army while sitting on the couch?
  
• How can he be Iron Man, without an Arc Reactor? Why would they even do that? That was one of the worst parts for me.
  
• Oh, and Tony going solo, without any armor or real tech to take out the Mandarin. Armed with makeshift weapons? Guns? I'm sorry, but that made NO sense. He couldn't go home and get a suit first? He couldn't contact anyone? Going in, alone, guns blazing was the best plan (after he said to Steve Rogers "We are NOT soldiers!")?

I could go on but I don't even want to talk about it anymore. I just feel cheated. I wouldn't care if the movie was bad. I could at least say the overall, the trilogy was good but as it is now, this movie is such garbage that it even kills the idea of this being a good trilogy.

I truly am at a loss here as to why toy companies would invest so hard on this movie. I don't feel compelled to buy anything now. Why would anyone invest money on a Mandarin figure? Or hundreds of dollars in an armor that has 2 seconds of screen time.

Well, that is it. This movie even killed my enthusiasm towards CA2, Thor 2 and Avengers 2.

Are you sure you're not Difabio or kindred of?

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

I think with more viewings i'll grow to not feel so duped by the twist. In the storyline of the film it worked well, but i paid to see Mandarin played by Ben Kingsley aa was advertised to me and wasn't provided that, so that's what got me pissed off

 

[subzro]

Me and some friends did the Marathon and even being a REALLY long day we all liked the movie.
I can understand if people just wanted to see him fly around in his suit and blow up bad guys like the last 3 films that this film might disappoint.
But I loved it because it answered the question Captain America asked " take away the suit and what are you?" He is apparently a badass. I am happy they expanded on Stark and finally showed that he is more than a guy with a fancy prosthetic.

Just my opinion, you can love IM3 or hate IM3 but i'm still going to see it again on Sunday

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Well, I'm back. Finally got to see it tonight. Felt like an eternity after everyone considering this movie came out overseas a while ago. Well, let me start by saying this: I love Iron Man. The first Iron Man movie is my most favorite movie of ALL TIME. More so than my beloved classics like Terminator 2, Predator or Aliens. I always defended the Iron Man franchise and even IM2. People like to criticize that movie, but I love Iron Man 2... I truly think it's a great movie.

With all that being said, I hated Iron Man 3. HATED IT. From the very start I felt like it was garbage. I feel this movie is almost a bad joke. I was sitting there, thinking it couldn't be actually happening. Seriously, I'm so fresh out of the movie and so disappointed I don't even know where to start. Was there even a point in this movie? At all? What was the purpose of this movie, can someone tell me? I felt like it only exists as and excuse to show off a bunch of useless suits.

• I mean, the Mandarin fiasco. - Absolutely ridiculous.
  
• That whole thing with that stupid kid (funny but went on for way to long. It was ultimately, completely unnecessary).
  
• The lack or Iron Man action scenes. Even the plane rescue sucked. It's hard to feel anything towards it when you find out Tony wasn't even in the suit.
  
• The sheer stupidity that was EVERYTHING related to the Iron Patriot (never even fired a single damn shot, not ONCE!). Why is he even in the movie. What kind of piece of crap armor is that, that anybody can put it on without any safety protocols. How can it get deactivated so quickly and easily by a "hand shake".
  
• The fact that there was very little Iron Man in the movie. He wasn't even inside the armor half the time. They just completely erased the whole purpose of him being Iron Man. Why would he wear an armor and be in combat in person if he can just control a whole army while sitting on the couch?
  
• How can he be Iron Man, without an Arc Reactor? Why would they even do that? That was one of the worst parts for me.
  
• Oh, and Tony going solo, without any armor or real tech to take out the Mandarin. Armed with makeshift weapons? Guns? I'm sorry, but that made NO sense. He couldn't go home and get a suit first? He couldn't contact anyone? Going in, alone, guns blazing was the best plan (after he said to Steve Rogers "We are NOT soldiers!")?

I could go on but I don't even want to talk about it anymore. I just feel cheated. I wouldn't care if the movie was bad. I could at least say the overall, the trilogy was good but as it is now, this movie is such garbage that it even kills the idea of this being a good trilogy.

I truly am at a loss here as to why toy companies would invest so hard on this movie. I don't feel compelled to buy anything now. Why would anyone invest money on a Mandarin figure? Or hundreds of dollars in an armor that has 2 seconds of screen time.

agreed with everything in Bold.

Well, that is it. This movie even killed my enthusiasm towards CA2, Thor 2 and Avengers 2.

But not Guardians?

.But I loved it because it answered the question Captain America asked " take away the suit and what are you?" He is apparently a badass.

he answered that question in that movie. And in this aside from that one scene with hs makeshift weapons he got his butt handed to him whenever he didn't have at least some of his armour.

Taking away the armour is like taking about Spider-Mans powers, you can be a noble guy who tries but you're gonna fail because you're just a guy

 

[MitchF1GTR]

The movie wasn't ****, here's why....

This is post Avengers, this is Tony Stark after his experiences and it shows with Tony experiencing anxiety attacks from the sheer stress of him realizing just how human he is compared to those around him. It is slow at first but there's pieces that needed to be setup (the establishment of the players and the motives) but once it moved on to the Malibu house attack then things really started happening.

On the kid, every moment of Tony interacting with the kid worked and it also showed a child's perspective of superheroes that he only knows Iron Man and not who Stark was. It wasn't too long or drawn out and it wasn't crap. The Mandarin twist (it's the 5th, here's your spoilers) fit perfectly in the grand scheme of things once it's revealed Aldrich Killian is the real man behind the scenes. Yes there's magic in the Marvel Cinematic Universe but they'd have had to have spent time establishing how the rings come to being and setting up the Mandarin. This movie isn't about Mandarin, it's about Stark.

Now what this movie does and does well is tell the story of Tony coming to show that the man makes the suit, not the suit makes the man and by the end Tony clean slates that part of his life and really drives it home, the man makes the suit. People simply don't understand this, that's what the movie is about and that's what we get.....

Tony Stark IS Iron Man, he makes the suit and with or without it he's a fighter and a survivor.

 

[Balrog]

IM3 was gold, its the best IM film easily. Mandarin was awesome.

Bu bubuh BEAST!

 

[subzro]

The movie wasn't ****, here's why....

This is post Avengers, this is Tony Stark after his experiences and it shows with Tony experiencing anxiety attacks from the sheer stress of him realizing just how human he is compared to those around him. It is slow at first but there's pieces that needed to be setup (the establishment of the players and the motives) but once it moved on to the Malibu house attack then things really started happening.

On the kid, every moment of Tony interacting with the kid worked and it also showed a child's perspective of superheroes that he only knows Iron Man and not who Stark was. It wasn't too long or drawn out and it wasn't crap. The Mandarin twist (it's the 5th, here's your spoilers) fit perfectly in the grand scheme of things once it's revealed Aldrich Killian is the real man behind the scenes. Yes there's magic in the Marvel Cinematic Universe but they'd have had to have spent time establishing how the rings come to being and setting up the Mandarin. This movie isn't about Mandarin, it's about Stark.

Now what this movie does and does well is tell the story of Tony coming to show that the man makes the suit, not the suit makes the man and by the end Tony clean slates that part of his life and really drives it home, the man makes the suit. People simply don't understand this, that's what the movie is about and that's what we get.....

Tony Stark IS Iron Man, he makes the suit and with or without it he's a fighter and a survivor.

 

[Darkmatter]

Spoiler

i liked that the movie played up on the human aspect of tony stark showing his vulnerabilities and the toll new york played on his strength, his mind and his relationship with pepper. the reason the mark 42 looked weak at times was it was still a work in progress. but it showed at the end to be formidable.

 

[DinoLast]

So I have been trying to work out how the Ten Rings fit in all this seeing as their leader is not what he seems. Were they a fake group the whole time, and how come Tony never seems bothered that these are the same group that took him prisoner in the first film?

 

[Irvy]

The movie wasn't ****, here's why....

This is post Avengers, this is Tony Stark after his experiences and it shows with Tony experiencing anxiety attacks from the sheer stress of him realizing just how human he is compared to those around him. It is slow at first but there's pieces that needed to be setup (the establishment of the players and the motives) but once it moved on to the Malibu house attack then things really started happening.

On the kid, every moment of Tony interacting with the kid worked and it also showed a child's perspective of superheroes that he only knows Iron Man and not who Stark was. It wasn't too long or drawn out and it wasn't crap. The Mandarin twist (it's the 5th, here's your spoilers) fit perfectly in the grand scheme of things once it's revealed Aldrich Killian is the real man behind the scenes. Yes there's magic in the Marvel Cinematic Universe but they'd have had to have spent time establishing how the rings come to being and setting up the Mandarin. This movie isn't about Mandarin, it's about Stark.

Now what this movie does and does well is tell the story of Tony coming to show that the man makes the suit, not the suit makes the man and by the end Tony clean slates that part of his life and really drives it home, the man makes the suit. People simply don't understand this, that's what the movie is about and that's what we get.....

Tony Stark IS Iron Man, he makes the suit and with or without it he's a fighter and a survivor.

But....but.. iron man 3 suckz there isnt enuf blowing fings up and pew pew guns.Mandorin is an actoorrr thats it HOT TOYS CANCELLLEDDD 4 LYFE!!

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Now what this movie does and does well is tell the story of Tony coming to show that the man makes the suit, not the suit makes the man and by the end Tony clean slates that part of his life and really drives it home, the man makes the suit. People simply don't understand this, that's what the movie is about and that's what we get.....

Gotta disagree with this. This isn't like Batman where the man beneath the suit is the strength this is Iron Man. The suit does all the heavy lifting the only thing that makes Stark unique is his genius, other than that he's a passanger in a very cool exosuit.

When he wasn't in the suit he was either getting his butt handed to him or running away. He wasn't able to beat the villain without the suit, wasn't able to save Pepper from falling without the suit.

The idea of the movie was about "the man or the suit", but in practice it showed that without the suit he's nothing but an ordinary guy who has to resort to using guns and still can't save the day.

He needs the suit to succeed as the hero. Just like Spider-Man needs his powers and and Banner needs the Hulk.

 

[MitchF1GTR]

An ordinary guy that uses more than just a gun?....were you watching when he created what was essentially an arsenal of home made gadgets?

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Yeah, and after that just guns.

Fact is, without the suits Tony Stark isn't Iron Man, he's just Tony Stark, genius who can't save the day

 

[krec9]

I think with more viewings i'll grow to not feel so duped by the twist. In the storyline of the film it worked well, but i paid to see Mandarin played by Ben Kingsley aa was advertised to me and wasn't provided that, so that's what got me pissed off

Thanks for the spoiler i didnt see it yet.

 

[DinoLast]

An ordinary guy that uses more than just a gun?....were you watching when he created what was essentially an arsenal of home made gadgets?

At the end of the day we want Iron Man, not Macgyver. Iron Man 1 and even 2 have shown that it's not just about the suit. Tony Stark has featured heavily in all his movies, you even get to see his face while he is wearing the mask.

 

[MitchF1GTR]

You still don't get it...it's his genius that is his weapon! Like the kid said, "you're a mechanic, build something". The kid in the movie got it!

The man makes the suit and it takes Tony's genius to make the suit.


Also, I don't care if it's unfinished but I'd love to see the 3hr15min cut of IM3.

 

[DinoLast]

You still don't get it...it's his genius that is his weapon! Like the kid said, "you're a mechanic, build something". The kid in the movie got it!

The man makes the suit and it takes Tony's genius to make the suit.


Also, I don't care if it's unfinished but I'd love to see the 3hr15min cut of IM3.

You're right, but it's not something that has been a revelation in this movie, his genius being his main asset is clear to see from the first movie.

 

[Tyler]

I said last week that I didn't think much of this movie. I was actually holding back incase I was over reacting.

What I really meant to say was that I absolutely ****ing hated this movie. And my only connection to Iron Man is Iron Man, Iron Man 2 and The Avengers. I'd didn't know who Iron Man was until I watched the Blu Ray. So I don't have thirty years or more history with this character to destroy.

But this movie was just one big ****ing joke as far as I am concerned. I actually think it takes a lot of effort to screw up to such a degree as this.

There is only one possible scenario that I can think of that would make this film make any sense. That is replace the cast with the following..

Tony Stark played by Charlie Sheen.
James Rhodes played by Marlon Wayans
Pepper Potts played by Anna Farris
Mandarin played by Leslie Neilson (if he was still alive)

I might have gotten the joke that way.

I thought that Iron Man 2 was bad, but it is fine on reflection compared to this. At least it looks like they tried to make a good movie, but took an honest miss step. The same as TDKR. I really don't like that, but it looks like everyone involved was trying to make the best film they could. It just didn't do anything for me.

This film goes in the same pile as Highlander2, Terminator 3 and Robocop 2 and 3.

That's just my opinion of this film.