Iron Man 3 Discussion Thread

[CelticPredator]

Star Trek does look big, yes.

 

[Darkseed]

Debating whether I want to see this again........decisions, decisions.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

I may get it on Blu. If not i'll be seeing it next when it's on Tele

 

[The Josh]

You have to admit Josh, Star Trek looks pretty epic.

It does look pretty good. I plan on seeing it next week.

 

[jye4ever]

How would you like to make a fortune for doing nothing except saying goodbye? That's basically what Paramount's now getting for signing away their Marvel movie rights (save for a portion of the profits from Marvel's The Avengers and Iron Man 3) to Marvel's then-new owner Disney in 2010.

"To date, Paramount has collected around $100 million from The Avengers alone from all distribution platforms (including theatrical, homevid, VOD and television). Now, with Iron Man 3 grossing nearly $800 million at the worldwide box office to date, Par will add significantly to its overall take (so far collecting approximately $40 million and counting) — all without having to lift a finger, other than to sign on the dotted line," according to Variety.
"Under terms of the buyout, it was determined that Paramount would receive either a flat fee of $115 million for both films or an 8% and 9% cut of global distribution revenues from Avengers and Iron Man 3, respectively, whichever was higher.

Already, it’s the latter, but the deal ends with Iron Man 3. That means Thor: The Dark World, which bows Nov. 8, will be the first Marvel property to be released solely by Disney without any outside studio participation."

Now that's a money-making deal that would make Obadiah Stane, Justin Hammer and Aldrich Killian proud!

 

[Niltusk]

How would you like to make a fortune for doing nothing except saying goodbye? That's basically what Paramount's now getting for signing away their Marvel movie rights (save for a portion of the profits from Marvel's The Avengers and Iron Man 3) to Marvel's then-new owner Disney in 2010.

"To date, Paramount has collected around $100 million from The Avengers alone from all distribution platforms (including theatrical, homevid, VOD and television). Now, with Iron Man 3 grossing nearly $800 million at the worldwide box office to date, Par will add significantly to its overall take (so far collecting approximately $40 million and counting) — all without having to lift a finger, other than to sign on the dotted line," according to Variety.
"Under terms of the buyout, it was determined that Paramount would receive either a flat fee of $115 million for both films or an 8% and 9% cut of global distribution revenues from Avengers and Iron Man 3, respectively, whichever was higher.

Already, it’s the latter, but the deal ends with Iron Man 3. That means Thor: The Dark World, which bows Nov. 8, will be the first Marvel property to be released solely by Disney without any outside studio participation."

Now that's a money-making deal that would make Obadiah Stane, Justin Hammer and Aldrich Killian proud!

I'd read that before, I'm assuming they did it to avoid marketing issues for future BR releases, etc. but wasn't 100% sure if that was the only issue.

 

[batfan08]

I kinda haz a sad dat I won see teh bootiful mountain, Nymoar. I haz hi hopez dat I will c a pritty Dizny casle insted.

 

[TheProcrastinator]

Just watched it.

The best and most original of all Iron Man flicks and TOP 3 of Marvel movies.

Very funny and smart at the same time, combines awesome sillyness with some semblance of true character story. Pointing out what Iron Man 3 does great would be just repeating all the cliffnote strenghts for which Shane Black is known (the dialogue, the witt, the christmas setting, the smart use of different genres, bla bla bla..) and I won't do that, couse there is currently enough nerd-wanking over Black on the net, but I really gotta hand it to him.

One of the best things about IM3 is that it really feels like an authored, original film, rather than just another, clone product off of Marvel's assembly line, without sacraficing that which makes those movie Marvel. A Shane Black film that's still Iron Man. It really kept me engaged the whole time and had a few suprises stashed. The last comic book film which managed to do that, was TDK back in 2008, which also had a completely unusual structure (for a superhero movie).

Watching IM 3 just proved to me that the chances of DC movies ever catching up with Marvel's, are silm to none. By giving IM 3 to a director such as Black, Marvel showed that they are willing to experiment and risk money to bring in quality, instead of cashing in on the franchise the easy way. I still consider TDK to be the best superhero movie ever, but even with Nolans trilogy, and even if Snyder's Man of Steel will turn out to be a Godsend festival of brilliance, DC is simply too far behind at this point.

Also, it had the most impressive action sequences in a Marvel film, outside of Avengers.

My only gripes:
1.The pacing. Mixing things up and constantly introducing different genres (buddy cop movie in the middle, with a small kid for example) was great, but there is just soo much in this film, that at times it may feel a bit disjointed. Its not a mess, but I am not sure Black pulled it off perfectly either, he could have been more restrained at times.

2.The Mandarin Twist (or at least part of it).
Spoilers Ahead obviously
Don't get me wrong, I love the idea behind the twist. I am a strong believer that the best superhero movies are the ones that don't follow the comics 100% like a ****ing bible, and instead use the canon, the general mythos of the character like a sandbox, play with it and do something original, interpret it for the film. Just like Burton and Nolan did with their own, personal visions of Batman. So I didn't give a **** how much of a blasphemy and desecration this would be on the Mandarin, as long as it would turn out to be something cool. And initially I was blown away by the twist. I thought to myself "Shane Black, You magnificent, crazy son of a *****". I mean the sheer B-A-L-L-S that are required to pull off something like that. And the reveal itself was great. The scene between Downey jr and Kinglsey was fantastic.

But then I was left with a realisation, that IM3 still lacked a proper villian. Yes there was Guy Pierce, but he was the same type of villian as Obidiah Stane and the rest of bland, suit wearing ***** from the previous two films. Yeah, he could breathe fire and shouted "I AM THE MANDARIN!", but thats a bit of a cop out. Just becouse You give him fire powers and some chinesee dragon tats with no context, doesn't make him cooler or more interesting. He did have a few good lines (its a Black movie, everybody has good lines), but overall he was just as forgetable villian as the ones, from previous Iron Man movies.

So I think I would say that IM3 has a great twist, but still lacks a proper villian. The twist makes up for it though...

3.The gal played by Rebbeca Hall. Her story was unncessary and underplayed. Hall was wasted in this.

4.Some of the "serious" elements were either underplayed or unnecessarily hamfisted into the film. The ptsd theme was a great idea, but it came out silly and without the proper power. Also some of the vague political allusions seemed crude. Though TDKR was much more grandoise and pompous in this regard, that theatricality in "Rises" at least properly served the operatic style of movie, but in IM3 some of it seems just unnecessary.

8/10

A must BD buy.

 

[Sithlord1975]

Just watched it.

The best and most original of all Iron Man flicks and TOP 3 of Marvel movies.

Very funny and smart at the same time, combines awesome sillyness with some semblance of true character story. Pointing out what Iron Man 3 does great would be just repeating all the cliffnote strenghts for which Shane Black is known (the dialogue, the witt, the christmas setting, the smart use of different genres, bla bla bla..) and I won't do that, couse there is currently enough nerd-wanking over Black on the net, but I really gotta hand it to him.

One of the best things about IM3 is that it really feels like an authored, original film, rather than just another, clone product off of Marvel's assembly line, without sacraficing that which makes those movie Marvel. A Shane Black film that's still Iron Man. It really kept me engaged the whole time and had a few suprises stashed. The last comic book film which managed to do that, was TDK back in 2008, which also had a completely unusual structure (for a superhero movie).

Watching IM 3 just proved to me that the chances of DC movies ever catching up with Marvel's, are silm to none. By giving IM 3 to a director such as Black, Marvel showed that they are willing to experiment and risk money to bring in quality, instead of cashing in on the franchise the easy way. I still consider TDK to be the best superhero movie ever, but even with Nolans trilogy, and even if Snyder's Man of Steel will turn out to be a Godsend festival of brilliance, DC is simply too far behind at this point.

Also, it had the most impressive action sequences in a Marvel film, outside of Avengers.

My only gripes:
1.The pacing. Mixing things up and constantly introducing different genres (buddy cop movie in the middle, with a small kid for example) was great, but there is just soo much in this film, that at times it may feel a bit disjointed. Its not a mess, but I am not sure Black pulled it off perfectly either, he could have been more restrained at times.

2.The Mandarin Twist (or at least part of it).
Spoilers Ahead obviously
Don't get me wrong, I love the idea behind the twist. I am a strong believer that the best superhero movies are the ones that don't follow the comics 100% like a ****ing bible, and instead use the canon, the general mythos of the character like a sandbox, play with it and do something original, interpret it for the film. Just like Burton and Nolan did with their own, personal visions of Batman. So I didn't give a **** how much of a blasphemy and desecration this would be on the Mandarin, as long as it would turn out to be something cool. And initially I was blown away by the twist. I thought to myself "Shane Black, You magnificent, crazy son of a *****". I mean the sheer B-A-L-L-S that are required to pull off something like that. And the reveal itself was great. The scene between Downey jr and Kinglsey was fantastic.

But then I was left with a realisation, that IM3 still lacked a proper villian. Yes there was Guy Pierce, but he was the same type of villian as Obidiah Stane and the rest of bland, suit wearing ***** from the previous two films. Yeah, he could breathe fire and shouted "I AM THE MANDARIN!", but thats a bit of a cop out. Just becouse You give him fire powers and some chinesee dragon tats with no context, doesn't make him cooler or more interesting. He did have a few good lines (its a Black movie, everybody has good lines), but overall he was just as forgetable villian as the ones, from previous Iron Man movies.

So I think I would say that IM3 has a great twist, but still lacks a proper villian. The twist makes up for it though...

3.The gal played by Rebbeca Hall. Her story was unncessary and underplayed. Hall was wasted in this.

4.Some of the "serious" elements were either underplayed or unnecessarily hamfisted into the film. The ptsd theme was a great idea, but it came out silly and without the proper power. Also some of the vague political allusions seemed crude. Though TDKR was much more grandoise and pompous in this regard, that theatricality in "Rises" at least properly served the operatic style of movie, but in IM3 some of it seems just unnecessary.

8/10

A must BD buy.

Completely agree with you bro.
Finally a decent look/review at the movie, without obsessive nit-picking and fanboy comic crying.

 

[Sithlord1975]

bane is an epic villain. killian was nothing.

I Was being sarcastic and pointing out the fact people are ripping apart IM3 for silly issues, while the TDKR has similar issues, yet is considered the best movie of all time by some

 

[CelticPredator]

I liked Jay's assessment of the film.

[ame]https://youtu.be/uohL1Tb6p_U[/ame]

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Just watched it.

The best and most original of all Iron Man flicks and TOP 3 of Marvel movies.

Stopped reading there.

 

[CelticPredator]

You're laughing, but you DO enjoy The Amazing Rehash. So.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

 

[CelticPredator]

Yeah. That scene was amazing. If you were trying to make a negative point, it's moot, because that scene ****ing ruled. Especially due to Chedle's line delivery.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Cheadle was good in this, shame he didn't get any Action.

I wonder why Killian never used his Fire Breath again, he could've melted Tony or Pepper from afar in the final battle

 

[Niltusk]

Yeah. That scene was amazing. If you were trying to make a negative point, it's moot, because that scene ****ing ruled. Especially due to Chedle's line delivery.

The irony is, alot of people who dis Killian breathing fire say its because its "unrealistic", of course I ignore them because they are also mad that Ghandi didn't kick the **** out of Iron Man with his "magical rings".

Everyones entitled to an opinion I guess, unless you like this movie, then the board trolls decide its time to camp out.

 

[Biojex]

Killian gifs but no Trevor gifs?? Displeased....

 

[CelticPredator]

Cheadle was good in this, shame he didn't get any Action.

I wonder why Killian never used his Fire Breath again, he could've melted Tony or Pepper from afar in the final battle

Did you miss the scene where he had to save the President?????

 

[Deckard]

Yea I'll admit for all the things I didn't like Killian breathing fire wasn't a big deal, aliens now exist in this universe.

Still though you have to admit, if on top of everything else Ghandi could also use the ten rings, he'd be even more amazing, probably the best current comic villain, instead of a really funny ringer.