Iron Man 3 Discussion Thread

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

The Gemini was only in the line up

While the stepping in and out of suits was beautiful visually it makes it appear that anyone can be Iron Man.

Rhodey, Pepper, that fire guy in the patriot armour all were essentially "Iron Man" at some point in the movie.

I mean you could put me in a Bat-Suit and give me gadgets and a cool car but i wouldn't be Batman, i'd get my *** kicked

But put someone in an armour and they are just as good as Iron Man, rendering Tony inconsequential on the superhero side

They should've kept it that he was the only one capable of using armour with Rhodey trained by him as War Machine.

 

[Frank]

The Gemini was only in the line up

While the stepping in and out of suits was beautiful visually it makes it appear that anyone can be Iron Man.

Rhodey, Pepper, that fire guy in the patriot armour all were essentially "Iron Man" at some point in the movie.

I mean you could put me in a Bat-Suit and give me gadgets and a cool car but i wouldn't be Batman, i'd get my *** kicked

But put someone in an armour and they are just as good as Iron Man, rendering Tony inconsequential on the superhero side

They should've kept it that he was the only one capable of using armour with Rhodey trained by him as War Machine.

Absolutely. The avalanche of Marks backfired big time in this movie as well.

 

[thenammagazine]

The Gemini was only in the line up

While the stepping in and out of suits was beautiful visually it makes it appear that anyone can be Iron Man.

Rhodey, Pepper, that fire guy in the patriot armour all were essentially "Iron Man" at some point in the movie.

I mean you could put me in a Bat-Suit and give me gadgets and a cool car but i wouldn't be Batman, i'd get my *** kicked

But put someone in an armour and they are just as good as Iron Man, rendering Tony inconsequential on the superhero side

They should've kept it that he was the only one capable of using armour with Rhodey trained by him as War Machine.

Not really, not without Starks' brain. That was the whole point of IM3.

 

[Frank]

Not really, not without Starks' brain. That was the whole point of IM3.

It certainly lessens the impact. It also goes the other way around, Stark just isn't Iron Man without the suit. IM3 had Stark running around all Lethal Weapon/Sherlock style and out of the armor that earned him the moniker to begin with. I can understand trying to get to know Stark better as a person, but there's nothing in this film that says more about him. We already knew he was a mental Iron Man, but physically he's not and that's where the suit perfectly compliments his personality. He had way more to work through on his own, both physically and mentally, in the first movie bar none. No Jarvis in that cave.

Tony Stark is cool and funny and a genius to be sure, but he's just not Iron Man in the fullest sense of the word until he puts on the suit.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Tony Stark is cool and funny and a genius to be sure, but he's just not Iron Man in the fullest sense of the word until he puts on the suit.

Building the suits is something only Stark can do, but using them and being Iron Man, in the sense that the man in the suit be it Bruce Wayne or Peter Parker is the only one who can do that, is lost since the suit is the power and others can use it

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Seems very strange that they haven't announced and Iron Man 4 considering they'll be paying RDJ a mint to come back for Avengers 2 and 3 and he's at the peak of profitability

 

[CelticPredator]

Tony Stark is Iron Man, weather he's in the suit or not. He and the suit are one. They beat you over the head with this during every single movie.

And no more stand alone Iron Man movies. That was pretty clear from all the interviews.

 

[Niltusk]

Stark is Iron Man, its that immersion of him with his tech that makes his character. I think McGyver Stark taking the compound was supposed to be the equivalent of "TONY STARK MADE THIS IN A CAVE", but as cool as it was it just didn't have the impact as the cave stuff from the first movie imo.

 

[JAWS]

The best IM3 review:​

www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfiwR1Ermlo

 

[Frank]

Building the suits is something only Stark can do, but using them and being Iron Man, in the sense that the man in the suit be it Bruce Wayne or Peter Parker is the only one who can do that, is lost since the suit is the power and others can use it

Jarvis was officially stretched out too far just to enable Tony to RC everything. I know Jarvis is an extension of Tony's genius persona, but I would rather they kept the suits so difficult to commandeer that only someone like Tony or the extremely well trained pilot Rhodes can use them.

 

[Frank]

Stark is Iron Man, its that immersion of him with his tech that makes his character. I think McGyver Stark taking the compound was supposed to be the equivalent of "TONY STARK MADE THIS IN A CAVE", but as cool as it was it just didn't have the impact as the cave stuff from the first movie imo.

That's it for me.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

If you take away the superpowers, is the man still a superhero?

I personally go with no, because try as they might, 9/10 times they can't save the day.

With Iron Man the suit is the powers, without them Tony can't be the superhero, he can say he's Iron Man but he can't do what Iron Man can do without the suit.

And no more stand alone Iron Man movies. That was pretty clear from all the interviews.

But why?

He's at the peak of his popularity, his last movie made a killing. Seems to go against all business sense to not capitalise with a solo sequel after Avengers 2.

 

[jye4ever]

But IM4 is being made, it's called Avengers 2.

In all reality, Avengers was IM3 and what we got this year was really IM4.

So Avengers 2 is really IM5.

 

[thenammagazine]

If you take away the superpowers, is the man still a superhero?

I personally go with no, because try as they might, 9/10 times they can't save the day.

This statement is stupid as hell, because if you strip away anybody's superpowers, they're joe-citizens.

 

[jedibear]

I think the idea of no more "stand alone" IM movies with Downy Jr is a smart move, if not box office-wise, at least creative-wise.

Smart of Downy to walk away while the series is still hot...make a few more appearance as the character in ensemble pieces (Avengers) and leave his contribution at three movies (well, 4 if you include Avengers) that have had the character of Tony Stark go through a complete story arc.

He's in good company for the walk-away...Damon leaving the "Bourne" movies after three, Bale hanging up the cape after three, and both of those men (along with Downy Jr) have imbued these characters with their strong personalities and screen presences, so while it's hard to imagine anyone else in this film era effectively playing these parts, at least they can walk away with some solid, well-appreciated work behind them that will sand the test of time.

Can someone else play Stark down the line? Most likely. Will it be the same Stark we're experiencing with these movies now? Heck no...but hopefully, if the character is re-visited, it will be a totally new take on it...more like what it appears Synder may be doing with Batman opposed to what the already-tired and too soon re-do the recent Spiderman was (sorry...tried watching it on cable recently...couldn't do it...it missed the mark so badly, it's unwatchable).

I've really enjoyed Downy's take on Tony Stark. We've got a couple more movies to see where he goes with the character...but three movies with him as the center of the story is enough....

 

[Biojex]

The lack of Iron Man movies will mean people anticipate his return in Avengers 2 and 3 a lot more. Instead of devolving into the "ugh im tired of rdj, get someone new" state.

 

[thenammagazine]

The lack of Iron Man movies will mean people anticipate his return in Avengers 2 and 3 a lot more. Instead of devolving into the "ugh im tired of rdj, get someone new" state.

Funny how everybody forgets he's literally the Atlas of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

 

[Biojex]

Some don't like to give credit where credit is due

 

[Adolfo]

This statement is stupid as hell, because if you strip away anybody's superpowers, they're joe-citizens.

I agree but Stark's brain is a weapon so to speak, same could be said of Batman but Batman can fight even without his suit/equipment

 

[Biojex]

Yeah, Stark's brain is a weapon. Which could be a plot point in avengers 2, regarding Ultron.

 

[amvmm]

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