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how brown is your nose? :lol
 
I dont want anyone to misunderstand me. Everyone is free to feel how they want about the film and express that. My point was just that it doesnt matter if a handful of comic fans are mad about the twist or the writing or whatever. All that matters to Marvel Studios is that the is making huge bank. That was their goal. They wanted to make a film that would make a lot of money. They dont intend for any of these films to be best picture of the year. Marvel Studios simply wants them to be entertaining enough to the general public to fill seats and that is exactly what they did.

That and general audiences seem to be embracing it and liking it.
 
the general public also made twilight movies mutil million dollar franchise....so im not sure that's really saying much in the end :rotfl
 
I agree that people are entitled to their opinion of the film and have the right to voice that opinion, good or bad, on this forum. It's crystal clear though that the masses view this film as a hit and are continuing to see repeat viewings of it around the world. It's also clear that hard core Marvel fans are in the minority and have very little impact on the overall box office performance of a film. It's an uphill battle at best to get Marvel interested in the views of the hard core fan but again, it shouldn't stop people who didn't like the film from voicing their opinion.

I happened to like the film a lot and found a lot I enjoyed while watching it. I'll be seeing it again for sure in the coming weeks.
 
Regardless of liking the film or not, I like that Marvel continues to hire unexpected and interesting directors to do these movies. They're not hiring type-cast directors (Singer, Nolan, Snyder) or hiring new up and coming directors. Instead they're hiring people either established in other genres or with spotty track records.

With Iron Man 3 they hired Shane Black who is mostly known as a writer and while Kiss Kiss Bang Bang was well received he really hasn't written a big film since Last Action Hero.

The other directors they've hired…

- Jon Favreau, largely known for odd comedies (Swingers, Elf)
- Kenneth Branagh, who's mostly known for Shakespearian stuff and period films
- Joe Johnston, perhaps the only obvious choice given he directed Rocketeer
- Joss Whedon, known for cancelled TV series
- James Gunn, ex-Troma alum
- Edgar Wright, perhaps one of the "safer" choices they have made
 
last time i checked HT isnt making twilight figs. as a my pops said success is the best revenge, the pic below sums it up pretty well

hot toys audience is middle aged males, there was no shortage of twilight merch out there for appropriate audiences

that said: me personally, don't have any issue with IM3 as a whole. i found the first and the second more entertaining and that's all. it was serviceable, but not "horrible" by any means. i would actually say as a "critique" IM2 is far worse "critical" movie, yet i enjoyed watching it more then the third

3 isn't a bad movie by any stretch of the imagination, but that doesn't mean its free of any criticism. just as the avengers had plot holes and suspension of logic (welcome back thor how did you get here? oh your father? then what was the bifrost for?..nvm continue on) people still enjoyed it because it delivered the core essence of what it was trying to achieve well, they where willing to overlook the inconsequential details as long as they got what they expected.
 
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the general public also made twilight movies mutil million dollar franchise....so im not sure that's really saying much in the end :rotfl

Good point but the reality is the masses must be on board and buying tickets for movies in any franchise to continue to be made. Do you think if the masses had rejected the first Iron Man movie that more would have been made? Not even a chance. Just look at the last Green Lantern movie. The masses generally hated it and, as a result, the franchise is dead.
 
The other directors they've hired…

- Jon Favreau, largely known for odd comedies (Swingers, Elf)
- Kenneth Branagh, who's mostly known for Shakespearian stuff and period films
- Joe Johnston, perhaps the only obvious choice given he directed Rocketeer
- Joss Whedon, known for cancelled TV series
- James Gunn, ex-Troma alum
- Edgar Wright, perhaps one of the "safer" choices they have made

I don't know Gunn's work, but the rest listed are all very talented filmmakers. I'll stick up for Branagh right here. His Shakespearean adaptations are amazing.
 
Mix the convo was about the movie not HT figs...

let me rephrase This is the IM 3 thread, about marvel and the film not about twilight. all im saying is if you didnt like the film thats cool, we need differing opinions to keep this forum interesting, BUT people repeatedly saying "i hated the film" gets boring after awhile, the same as if everyone said that they had loved the film. since those people dont even say why they didn't like it just giving one sentence, which comes off as *****ing to me. in which i say marvel is laughing to the bank whether you liked it or not. i'm not trying to intentionally trying to cause trouble but at the end of the day marvel made a huge blockbuster film and they achieved their purpose. i see many people going on and on about how it sucked, and just move on and deal with it.

i really like everyone this forum but sometimes we will have differing opinions and these fights will need to be had
 
And Whedon had Buffy the Vampire Slayer, which ran for 7 seasons and is generally looked at as one of the best fantasy series.
 
i really like everyone this forum but sometimes we will have differing opinions and these fights will need to be had

there is no need to fight in the fight place. people expected more and they have their reasons just as you had an expectation and it was met.

criticism isn't inherently bad.

And Whedon had Buffy the Vampire Slayer, which ran for 7 seasons and is generally looked at as one of the best fantasy series.

then he did firefly which barley lasted one.

put that into the perspective of the conversation as you see fit.
 
let me rephrase This is the IM 3 thread, about marvel and the film not about twilight. all im saying is if you didnt like the film thats cool, we need differing opinions to keep this forum interesting, BUT people repeatedly saying "i hated the film" gets boring after awhile, the same as if everyone said that they had loved the film. since those people dont even say why they didn't like it just giving one sentence, which comes off as *****ing to me. in which i say marvel is laughing to the bank whether you liked it or not. i'm not trying to intentionally trying to cause trouble but at the end of the day marvel made a huge blockbuster film and they achieved their purpose. i see many people going on and on about how it sucked, and just move on and deal with it.

i really like everyone this forum but sometimes we will have differing opinions and these fights will need to be had


Its all good man, I just got the impression you were saying that because HT didnt make twilight figs regos argument was invalid :lol
 
Yeah don't get me wrong, I love all of those directors, every single one of them, but they're all fairly unexpected choices, which I am saying is a very good thing.
 
The other directors they've hired…

- Jon Favreau, largely known for odd comedies (Swingers, Elf)
- Kenneth Branagh, who's mostly known for Shakespearian stuff and period films
- Joe Johnston, perhaps the only obvious choice given he directed Rocketeer
- Joss Whedon, known for cancelled TV series
- James Gunn, ex-Troma alum
- Edgar Wright, perhaps one of the "safer" choices they have made

Actually Edgar *was* a pretty unsafe choice. I believe he approached them about Ant-Man and his ideas before Shaun of the Dead, which was his breakout film as a director. Marvel could see how talented he was through his thoughts so started a working relationship with him.
 
Yeah, why I said "perhaps" I'm not sure even he is a choice a normal studio would have gone for. It also seems like every project he does is entirely on his own initiative. I know Scott Pilgrim was something he actively pursued doing as well and I believe was doing pre-production before he even had any money to make it.
 
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