Anyway, what did Wolvie mention that was from DOFP?
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Logan (New Wolverine movie March 3rd 2017)
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Sidewinder
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I thought it was a beautiful film. I've been a big fan of the X-Men films since they began and I was still a teenager in school. I much prefer the OG cast over the new one, so it was great to see this film revolve around Logan and Professor X.
I'm not a comic book reader, so I don't really care about the costume not being worn or the fact Hugh is taller than the character. I think he's done an amazing job over the years and it was even a little disheartening to see Logan in the condition he was during the film. I'd love for Hugh to keep on going to be perfectly honest. It will be interesting to see when they recast and who that will be.
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I'm not a comic book reader, so I don't really care about the costume not being worn or the fact Hugh is taller than the character. I think he's done an amazing job over the years and it was even a little disheartening to see Logan in the condition he was during the film. I'd love for Hugh to keep on going to be perfectly honest. It will be interesting to see when they recast and who that will be.
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I like it, I didn't love it.
I very much hope HT makes a Logan figure. Would really love Professor X too, but we all know that won't happen from them when even Logan is uncertain at this point.
The film is slow, which is fine. Its a real character driven film rather than action filled. There are several things I took issue with
- WTF happened? Last we left off with this group at the end of DoFP, things were all fine. More than just a few lines with vague hints was really needed at some point in the film.
- Professor X was really out of character. I didn't ever expect the professor to be throwing around F bombs. That wasn't the Professor X I know. I guess you could chalk it up to the dementia or hanging out with Logan too much, but I think it wasn't needed.
- There was a real lack of any threat from the bad guys. X-23 handled most of them with ease on her own and they were more of a nuisance just because Logan was so crippled. The return of Sabretooth or some other loose end would have been a much better threat than another Stryker and goons.
- The robot hand guy. What use did chopping his hand off for this 'upgrade?' It did nothing special for him and served no purpose than giving him a cool looking gimmick to stand out. Useless otherwise.
- The Adamantium bullet didn't kill Logan in X-men: Orgins Wolverine so it shouldn't have killed X-24. Those kids are dead meat in a few hours. VERY HUGE plot hole there. He'd wake up with no memories so unless this is a back door reboot of Wolverine via X-24 when he wakes up, there is a major loose end/threat there. He'd have a good 50 or more years before his adamantium catches up with him and poisons his healing factor.
There were several things I did like though
-the Deadpool 2 teaser. Very unexpected and for a minute I thought we were already watching Logan at that point. Nice trick with all of the "no Deadpoo in Loganl" talk
-the blood! When you have a character with 6 knives sticking out of his hands, there will be blood. Its about time they unleashed their true potential.
-the make up. So far, this is my pick for the Oscar for best make up. Patrick and Hugh looked like CRAP! I truly believed they are both really dying now. Very well done with that!
- the acting. Hugh and Patrick did a great job and the long history they actually had together made their relationship very believable. Great send offs for the both of them.
- I liked that they had the guts to actually kill Wolverine off at the end, and in a believable manner after years of watching him be so invincible. Very touching and sad ending. I can see why Hugh wouldn't want to come back. It would be like Jordan ruining that perfect buzzer beater, championship winning shot to come back for more later. So there is still hope
- WTF happened? Last we left off with this group at the end of DoFP, things were all fine. More than just a few lines with vague hints was really needed at some point in the film.
- Professor X was really out of character. I didn't ever expect the professor to be throwing around F bombs. That wasn't the Professor X I know. I guess you could chalk it up to the dementia or hanging out with Logan too much, but I think it wasn't needed.
- There was a real lack of any threat from the bad guys. X-23 handled most of them with ease on her own and they were more of a nuisance just because Logan was so crippled. The return of Sabretooth or some other loose end would have been a much better threat than another Stryker and goons.
- The robot hand guy. What use did chopping his hand off for this 'upgrade?' It did nothing special for him and served no purpose than giving him a cool looking gimmick to stand out. Useless otherwise.
- The Adamantium bullet didn't kill Logan in X-men: Orgins Wolverine so it shouldn't have killed X-24. Those kids are dead meat in a few hours. VERY HUGE plot hole there. He'd wake up with no memories so unless this is a back door reboot of Wolverine via X-24 when he wakes up, there is a major loose end/threat there. He'd have a good 50 or more years before his adamantium catches up with him and poisons his healing factor.
There were several things I did like though
-the Deadpool 2 teaser. Very unexpected and for a minute I thought we were already watching Logan at that point. Nice trick with all of the "no Deadpoo in Loganl" talk
-the blood! When you have a character with 6 knives sticking out of his hands, there will be blood. Its about time they unleashed their true potential.
-the make up. So far, this is my pick for the Oscar for best make up. Patrick and Hugh looked like CRAP! I truly believed they are both really dying now. Very well done with that!
- the acting. Hugh and Patrick did a great job and the long history they actually had together made their relationship very believable. Great send offs for the both of them.
- I liked that they had the guts to actually kill Wolverine off at the end, and in a believable manner after years of watching him be so invincible. Very touching and sad ending. I can see why Hugh wouldn't want to come back. It would be like Jordan ruining that perfect buzzer beater, championship winning shot to come back for more later. So there is still hope
I very much hope HT makes a Logan figure. Would really love Professor X too, but we all know that won't happen from them when even Logan is uncertain at this point.
jye4ever
Broke and happy
This movie truly is the Rambo 4 of comic book movies.
Finally a great action movie from Fox!
People always point out X2 as the go to action movie in the XM franchise and this one just evicerated that without blinking an eye.
If I were to go back and watch Wolverine in action in any of his other movies he is now going to look foolish after what we got in Logan.
In a way this movie has ruined all of the other movies in the franchise where Wolverine was the focus.
Mangold has just provided a great template for how a Punisher movie needs to be.
Finally a great action movie from Fox!
People always point out X2 as the go to action movie in the XM franchise and this one just evicerated that without blinking an eye.
If I were to go back and watch Wolverine in action in any of his other movies he is now going to look foolish after what we got in Logan.
In a way this movie has ruined all of the other movies in the franchise where Wolverine was the focus.
Mangold has just provided a great template for how a Punisher movie needs to be.
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pmtz2005
Super Freak
What an awesome movie 
..I'm sure I'll go watch it again 
..I'm sure I'll go watch it again 
The Clown Prince of Crime
Super Freak
Not necessarily.
Implied violence still works in the previous X films and it makes sense for Wolvie in Logan to be a bit more ruthless given the story and how much he's been through. He doesn't give a damn anymore, as opposed to the earlier films which shows him trying to contain his rage and emotions.
I still think the best X Men film is DOFP. Juggling the large cast of characters in different timelines and combining the OG cast with the new cast was really impressive.
The action in Logan is more graphic, but it was still shot the same, same moves, and simple choreography. So I can't say the action in Logan is significantly better than in previous films, just more violent, but I never had a problem with the action in the previous X Men movies. Nightcrawler's intro in X2 might still be the best fight scene.
I can see why some might consider Logan the best X Men film, but to me it isn't the action that makes it better, it's the story and characters in their "last" adventure that makes it more powerful than previous movies which had an open ending.
batfan08
Super Freak
This movie is going to be the end of me. Over twenty four hours later, and I'm still obsessing over it. I'm like a junkie jonesing for a fix; I want to see it again, I need to see it again; I have to see it again. I have not felt this much enthusiasm for a comic book movie in a long time. Probably not since The Winter Soldier; well, maybe Days of Future Past. When I walked out of Batman V Superman, I was left with feelings of confusion, more than anything, Civil War left me feeling disappointed, Suicide Squad had me feeling like I'd just crawled back from the depths of hell after having been killed by gas station sushi, and the rest of the Marvel movies outside of, maybe, Guardians, left me feeling...I'll be generous and say happily distracted, if only for a moment.
Logan's something of a paradox to me. The eagerness I feel wanting to watch it again almost makes me feel like a glutton for punishment, as it is, indubitably, a punishing film. Gutwrenching, heartbreaking; you think of the adjective, and there are probably a million ways to describe how ****ty it leaves me feeling, but, at the same time, as a fan of both westerns and comic book films, it fills me with the spirit of salvation, as if I were a broken man in a tent revival. For a long time, westerns have been about as dead as a dodo. Every once in a while, we'll get one and it'll do alright, but, as a genre? It had been so played out for so long that they may as well have put its tombstone up next to John Wayne's.
The same, I fear, can be said of comic book movies. Torn between two warring factions; one that clings to the brief success "ultrarealism" granted the genre years ago, in a desperate attempt to be taken seriously, and another that has become creatively stifled in the name of maintaining the status quo and, by extension, the bottom line, comic book movies have, honestly, kind of floundered, and I agree wholeheartedly with Snikt, when he assesses that Logan takes the risks Marvel's too afraid to take, and, as for trying to be taken seriously like DC's stuff? It's effortless. Mangold, Jackman, and Co. clearly have a deep affection for the character, but they do not allow themselves to be silenced by the loudest fanboys in the room.
This is not a guy running around in a bright yellow leotard, this is a broken down old man, living a life of solitude and taking care of the closest thing he has to family. Logan is as inspiring as it is dour, because I look at the back-to-back success of films like this and Hell or High Water, and, as a fan of westerns, I can't help but think that, "maybe this old girl has some juice left in her, yet," and the same goes for comic book movies. I'm not saying I want the MCU to stop, or DC not to try to make their "realistic" DCEU filled with gods and mortals and deep, philosophical pinings, but what films like Logan and, to a degree, Deadpool, establish is that you can allow the conventions of the genre to take a backseat to good storytelling; you can make something new, and fresh, and different, and still have it be equally successful, if not moreso.
I feel like I could churn on about this movie for hours, but I don't really know where to begin, and I'm not really sure where I'd end it.
Logan's something of a paradox to me. The eagerness I feel wanting to watch it again almost makes me feel like a glutton for punishment, as it is, indubitably, a punishing film. Gutwrenching, heartbreaking; you think of the adjective, and there are probably a million ways to describe how ****ty it leaves me feeling, but, at the same time, as a fan of both westerns and comic book films, it fills me with the spirit of salvation, as if I were a broken man in a tent revival. For a long time, westerns have been about as dead as a dodo. Every once in a while, we'll get one and it'll do alright, but, as a genre? It had been so played out for so long that they may as well have put its tombstone up next to John Wayne's.
The same, I fear, can be said of comic book movies. Torn between two warring factions; one that clings to the brief success "ultrarealism" granted the genre years ago, in a desperate attempt to be taken seriously, and another that has become creatively stifled in the name of maintaining the status quo and, by extension, the bottom line, comic book movies have, honestly, kind of floundered, and I agree wholeheartedly with Snikt, when he assesses that Logan takes the risks Marvel's too afraid to take, and, as for trying to be taken seriously like DC's stuff? It's effortless. Mangold, Jackman, and Co. clearly have a deep affection for the character, but they do not allow themselves to be silenced by the loudest fanboys in the room.
This is not a guy running around in a bright yellow leotard, this is a broken down old man, living a life of solitude and taking care of the closest thing he has to family. Logan is as inspiring as it is dour, because I look at the back-to-back success of films like this and Hell or High Water, and, as a fan of westerns, I can't help but think that, "maybe this old girl has some juice left in her, yet," and the same goes for comic book movies. I'm not saying I want the MCU to stop, or DC not to try to make their "realistic" DCEU filled with gods and mortals and deep, philosophical pinings, but what films like Logan and, to a degree, Deadpool, establish is that you can allow the conventions of the genre to take a backseat to good storytelling; you can make something new, and fresh, and different, and still have it be equally successful, if not moreso.
I feel like I could churn on about this movie for hours, but I don't really know where to begin, and I'm not really sure where I'd end it.
jye4ever
Broke and happy
That's the thing for me.
The ONLY way I was ever going to accept Fox's version of action with Wolverine, you called it simple choreography, was for it to be gory.
The gore fit perfectly with the depressing future and somber characters on display.
And I agree batfan, i've been obsessing over it all day as well.
This movie was the TDK Interrogation scene for its entire running time, I left emotionally exhausted.
The ONLY way I was ever going to accept Fox's version of action with Wolverine, you called it simple choreography, was for it to be gory.
The gore fit perfectly with the depressing future and somber characters on display.
And I agree batfan, i've been obsessing over it all day as well.
This movie was the TDK Interrogation scene for its entire running time, I left emotionally exhausted.
The Clown Prince of Crime
Super Freak
I'm not going to lie but
I felt bad for Logan, Xavier, and especially X23. I was hoping to see the grave stones tremble BVS style Assome kind of signal that he's alive and he'll be with X 23.
The we hear this song as the credit music, which ironically it's a different Johnny Cash song from the one they used for the credits.
Assome kind of signal that he's alive and he'll be with X 23. The we hear this song as the credit music, which ironically it's a different Johnny Cash song from the one they used for the credits.
Yup. I thought of the same thing. Was kind of disappointed and sad, but it was a perfect ending. [emoji18]
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batfan08
Super Freak
I'm not going to lie but
I felt bad for Logan, Xavier, and especially X23. I was hoping to see the grave stones tremble BVS style
The we hear this song as the credit music, which ironically it's a different Johnny Cash song from the one they used for the credits.
I thought this was the song in the credits?
Easy to get mixed up, though. Between Hurt in this trailer, and Ain't No Grave in the PotC trailer, Hollywood's in Johnny Cash overload mode. As a fan, I love it.
olbertfrog
Super Freak
It was cool to see this kind of style adapted to an xmen movie but i was bored by the story itself.
Ive seen variations of this 50 times at least. Unforgiven vs firestarter Charlie.
Tone, worldbuilding, cinematography, violence was Nice.
The relation between Xavier and Logan was cool but i didnt feel the bond at the end between x23 and logan.
That Daddy was completely out of the blue and forced.
Its cool to have wolverine on the screen at last.
Ive seen variations of this 50 times at least. Unforgiven vs firestarter Charlie.
Tone, worldbuilding, cinematography, violence was Nice.
The relation between Xavier and Logan was cool but i didnt feel the bond at the end between x23 and logan.
That Daddy was completely out of the blue and forced.
Its cool to have wolverine on the screen at last.
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Bashed on Fox many years for getting it wrong but (for me) they got Deadpool right and finally gave Logan (Wolverine) justice. I am hoping the trend continues because both those two movies are tops in my hero viewing catalog. What drives both those films past Marvel and DC isn't the action, comedy, CGI but the heart. Both Deadpool and Logan had heart which drew me into the characters. Plenty will disagree but that's what worked for me....
Kudos to Hugh and co. for a fantastic film.
Kudos to Hugh and co. for a fantastic film.
I think some of you might find this interesting. Do you think he's going to try it on? https://www.instagram.com/p/BRLp8dvDfEH/
RiggsMcClane
Super Freak
I really liked the movie and there was very little I would change about it. I had two issues:
I had a hard time accepting that fifteen years from now Wolvie would be that bad off physically and I couldn't understand a flipping thing the girl said once she started speaking english. So the eulogy she gave was complete nonsense to me.
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Scareb
Super Freak
The eulogy was her quoting the film from the hotel.
