Logan (New Wolverine movie March 3rd 2017)
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They're the same age. Mutation manifests at puberty and Erik was hitting puberty in the prologues to and X1/FC. Plus Mangold says in Logan Xavier is nearly 100 - which makes sense since he was born in the early 30s and Logan takes place in 2029.
jye4ever
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Just google Walmart Fat Shopper and all will be revealed.
Gal Gadot would not fit in as a Walmart shopper.
Gal Gadot would not fit in as a Walmart shopper.
Lol I know what is does, I just forgot exactly why they felt the need to mention it in the film without any elaboration.
jye4ever
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Alkali Transgender errr Transigen was probably using that product to control genetics.
That product was being used for everything.
That product was being used for everything.
GasparZizou
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>kids surrounding you and killing you isn't creepy by itselfThose kids weren't even remotely creepy, except maybe the one with shark teeth.
It's ok, nuance gets lost in the audience all the time, I'm used to see it at this point, I missed it myself until pointed out by Prince, sometimes we're just too desensitized and detached to empathize with what's happening on screen.
Ok, nuance is out of the question, everything has to be one note and monotonous rhythm, got it.The entire movie has gruesome bloody deaths and decaptitations and the main villain died by.......grass, that's stupid. You can't even try and act like that was "cool" or "creepy." And they clearly tried to establish him as the main villain, it's all in the beginning of the movie. I guess you missed the part where he's in Logan's car and says that "they took something that belonged to him." They established early on that he's not going to let anything stand in the way of accomplishing his mission..........
Except grass.
>Alkali card
>Dude's obviously a scientist or a suit
>Gets his ass handed to him by whiny albino early in the movie
>he must the main villain
Introducing the muscle at the beginning of the film does not imply he's the main villain, especially when he obviously is the muscle, any more than Vader is a main villain.
jye4ever
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He absolutely was one of the main villains of the movie regardless of his position in the totem pole.
GasparZizou
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Ah...
>She took something of mine. Something for which I am responsible...
>TransiGEN
>He must be the main villain.
I know we're getting caught in semantics, just pointing it out.
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He's the first villain you see, and he has those "iconic" sunglasses & robot hand that you'd think would be "trademark" for a main villain. Err, at least I thought so anyways.
jye4ever
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Why are you complicating the movie though it only had 3 primary direct villains:
Rice
X24
Pierce
Then if one chooses to get all metaphorical they can discuss the internal struggles of the heroes.
If anything Pierce was the most interesting 3 dimensional villain of the bunch with Rice taking up 2nd place but that's also giving them too much credit because for the most part they were pretty straight forward unconflicted villains.
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They definitely set it it up to seem like Donald pierce was the main villain. And if he's not, then who was? That's one of the major problems with the film, there was no main noteworthy villain. The whole movie was filled with "monotonous and one note" characters. None of the bad guys introduced are well developed at all. And then X-24 ends up being a perfected clone of Wolverine. Really? We haven't seen any X-men movies where an evil corporation turns mutants into weapons.....oh wait. Not
only do we sit through two hours of Logan basically getting his ass kicked (again), but we have no
Idea how Logan is truly feeling. His motivations weren't even well thought out.
GasparZizou
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Nothing complicated, Snoop said he was the main villain, I disagree, that's all.
I agree, he was the best one, the muscle often is.
jye4ever
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I saw Charles as someone who remained unwavering in his life mission, he pushed thru all the barriers Wolverine had placed on him, drugs and being locked up, and still managed to embrace X23 which lead to Wolverine rising back up as the hero he was.
I don't know, it comes down to the whole do guns kill people or do people kill people debate.
Was Rice the gun or Charles?
I don't know, it comes down to the whole do guns kill people or do people kill people debate.
Was Rice the gun or Charles?
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The Clown Prince of Crime
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Charles just wanted a nice meal and a good night's sleep. He was old, tired, and sick.
Was it a bit selfish? Yes.
Was it a bit irresponsible? Yes.
Is it partially his fault a nice family got killed? Yes.
But...no that's pretty much it.
Was it a bit selfish? Yes.
Was it a bit irresponsible? Yes.
Is it partially his fault a nice family got killed? Yes.
But...no that's pretty much it.
GasparZizou
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Yeah, wtf is up with that? That was terribly selfish of him, like you've seen the kinds of dudes you have on your tail and you decide to stay with a family?
Charles was being capricious like old people can be, but Logan should've known waaaay better than that, at least go after having dinner, don't stay the night.
Charles was being capricious like old people can be, but Logan should've known waaaay better than that, at least go after having dinner, don't stay the night.
The Clown Prince of Crime
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Yup, it didn't help that the next hotel was 2 or 3 hours away
Even Logan must have been thinking, "FUGGGGGG! 3 hours!!"
Then Charles used that old man guilt on Logan.
I think the family was already dead once Logan and Charles accepted the dinner offer, because the bad guys were going to stop there for information and probably kill them all like they did to the guy in the gas station.
GasparZizou
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Exactly, same here, "we'd love to stay for dinner", welp, they ded.
3 fraggin' hours holy crap
Blood Electricity
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To me it seems like logan felt pushed really far against the wall. Completely afraid of the world as a whole. Charles is a risk and a burden but the only person he cares about. He's trying to keep his head down and get the hell out with this plan to find a boat (which seems like he hardly even believes ls is going to happen or possibly work out).
The villains aren't as important as they served to justify logan feeling more isolated and paranoid. He is right to feel this way because of how everything continues to unfolds around him. Charles' hope is naive and it gets people killed.
But the point of the movie is that hope is worth having even in the absolute darkest of times. He redeems himself by helping the children escape to do their best to make a better future than what he had lived through.
X-24 was who he could have been without charles.
Rice was representative of the kind of constant struggle the mutants are up against. A self righteous extremist with resources. Like the men that put the poison on his bones.
Pierce is the sociopath that loves living in this mad world. A soldier that never has to go home. Another sort of shadow of wolverines past. Akin to sabretooth
I feel it isnt an underdeveloped movie as much as it just simple and understated in some ways.
