LOST discussion - thar be spoilers ahead!

[lcummins]

Without the dark we we would never know the light.

Because above all, there must always be balance.
Night/Day, Summer/Winter, Birth/Death, Black/White, Good/Evil.

It is what it is.
I, personally, don't fret over things I can't control or understand.


I'm gonna be in Austin next week. Wanna discuss all this over beer?

Why does there need to be a yin to every yang? If God is omnipotent, couldn't he create a universe where only good exists without needing evil? Birth could exist without needing death? etc, etc, etc. I don't buy it... just too convenient and to me, an obvious contrivance of man to try and explain the universe around him.


When are you going to be in Austin? Which day? I'm game!

 

[pixletwin]

Perhaps - as I've said, I had trouble with the ending and the resolution to the sideways universe (perhaps because of my personal beliefs), but I felt the whole thing was emotionally satisfying and I can see the dramatic value of that ending, even if it conflicts with my own thoughts.

Maybe its a line drawn by those who tend to be led by what they "feel" versus those who are led by what they "know".

Basic science vs. faith situation?

 

[pixletwin]

Why does there need to be a yin to every yang? If God is omnipotent, couldn't he create a universe where only good exists without needing evil? Birth could exist without needing death? etc, etc, etc. I don't buy it... just too convenient and to me, an obvious contrivance of man to try and explain the universe around him.

Depends on the purpose of God's creation. I believe he created us to help us learn to grow and eventually come to be like him. That's impossible to acomplish if there is no opposition.

Or God is just a git.

 

[Batty]

"For it must needs be, that there is an opposition in all things. If not sorighteousness could not be brought to pass, neither wickedness, neither holiness nor misery, neither good nor bad. Wherefore, all things must needs be a compound in one; wherefore, if it should be one body it must needs remain as dead, having no life neither death, nor corruption nor incorruption, happiness nor misery, neither sense nor insensibility. "

Maybe one can be spiritual and also an atheist?

and yes you are my friend.

Always good to know.

 

[lcummins]

Maybe its a line drawn by those who tend to be led by what they "feel" versus those who are led by what they "know".

Basic science vs. faith situation?

Isn't that what the show was about... faith vs science... to a degree? I'm a man of science...

 

[Kuzeh]

Kind of my point... if "God" was bored and created everything and us just to worship him and liven things up... what kind of God is that?

I was just kidding...

Honestly when it comes to God, I believe our mistake is to try to conceive "it" as a "humanoid" entity, both physically and mentally...
There's no motives, there's no plot... it just is...
I like to think of God as something beyond Good and Evil... it really doesn't care about either of them.
The whole worship thing is humans failed and flawed interpretation of how things work.
In the end, "God" just doesn't care about us like that...

I sure as hell don't like it, and don't agree with it, but fighting it won't change it...

 

[lcummins]

...I believe he created us to help us learn to grow and eventually come to be like him. That's impossible to acomplish if there is no opposition...

Why is it impossible without opposition? Because God made it that way? Couldn't he have just as easily made it the other way?

 

[pixletwin]

Isn't that what the show was about... faith vs science... to a degree? I'm a man of science...

Yeah. Kind of the point I was making. I think perhaps the writers alienated 50% of the audience share by siding with Faith.

 

[pixletwin]

Why is it impossible without opposition? Because God made it that way? Couldn't he have just as easily made it the other way?

It's a violation of natural law to suppose otherwise.

 

[The ill Jedi]

... When Jack and Locke were facing off and Jack did that leaping punch (right before cutting to commercials), I uttered "epic" out loud. That was a really well shot fight scene.

epic

That was BAD ASS.

thank you for rewarding my belief in you LOST

nah.i cried several times like a big girl and not just a tear rolling down the cheek...the full works

My wife had to 'check on me' several times.

For some strange reason, Vincent coming to lay down with him just made me come unglued.

Oh man dude, I hugged my dog and I sobbed.

 

[lcummins]

It's a violation of natural law to suppose otherwise.

Isn't God the "natural law"? If not, then I'm really confused now!

 

[pixletwin]

I would say that natural is part of God's law (assuming God exists). So not sure what is confusing you.

 

[lcummins]

Why is it impossible without opposition? Because God made it that way? Couldn't he have just as easily made it the other way?

It's a violation of natural law to suppose otherwise.

Isn't God the "natural law"? If not, then I'm really confused now!

I would say that natural is part of God's law (assuming God exists). So not sure what is confusing you.

You made it sound like "natural law" was something different than God. If God is the natural law, you're saying it is a violation to even question the way things are? Another reason I find it difficult to accept.




Oh... and I still don't like the way the sideways reality was handled during the season... just to bring us back on topic!

 

[pixletwin]

Lonnie. Deep breath.

Ok?

You: Why did God create Evil?

Me: Because evil is essential to helping us learn and grow.

You: Is there no other way.

Me. Nope. Not that I have seen or observed in anything in my experience.

Clear? Are we done putting words in my mouth now?

 

[Karma]

really wanna watch it again but dunno if i can handle all that again

 

[Darthrazz]

I want a PF of this! and of Locke charging up the mountain.

 

[Karma]

you guys are debating a topic that cannot be agreed as it's personal beliefs, so just agree to disagree

 

[pixletwin]

you guys are debating a topic that cannot be a agreed as it's personal beliefs, so just agree to disagree

Thats why I kept trying to liven things and change the subject.

 

[automaton]

many of the various religious / spiritual symbols were strewn through out the room that Chirstian Shepard's coffin was in… but without the light Jack had saved, there would have been nothing to walk into.

 

[lcummins]

Lonnie. Deep breath.

Ok?

You: Why did God create Evil?

Me: Because evil is essential to helping us learn and grow.

You: Is there no other way.

Me. Nope. Not that I have seen or observed in anything in my experience.

Clear? Are we done putting words in my mouth now?

I'm pretty certain I never put words in your mouth...

you guys are debating a topic that cannot be a agreed as it's personal beliefs, so just agree to disagree

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing... just asking questions that no one can ever give me straight answers to...