LOST discussion - thar be spoilers ahead!

[pixletwin]

Can anyone report what is on the secret disc?

 

[Maglor]

Can anyone report what is on the secret disc?

As I mentioned in my review a few pages back (in spoiler tags), the secret disc contains the 3 hours of never before seen bonus material.

I liked it. What are your thoughts?

I loved it!

I counted 6 answers:

1) Why were there still Dharma drops.
2) Why were there polar bears there. (Most of us figured that out, but I think for many casual viewers this was a revelation.)
3) Where did the Hurley Bird come from.
4) Why women couldn't give birth on the island.
5) What room 23 was used for.
6) Why Walt is special.


This last one was a bit ambiguous, but my favorite part actually. We have never been told exactly what Walt's abilities are. We have only been told that he is special. We still don't fully understand this, but we are told that he is going to help his Dad, who is one of the Whispers. Is that the reason the Others wanted him in the first place? So that he could free the Whispers?

Here's why that was my favorite part. The reveal of what the Whispers was really bugged me. Easily my least favorite reveal. I hate the idea that all bad people who have a connection to the island automatically go to the Whisper purgatory. Now I believe that the Whisper arrangement was part of how Jacob ran things. It was his way of punishing those who didn't prove his point, or work in harmony with his 'experiment.' Don't get me wrong, I am a Jacob fan, but he is a flawed character, and he made a lot of wrong choices. Hurley will be a different kind of number one. One of the first things he wants to do is end the Whisper policy, and he needs Walt to help with that. I think thats really cool.




Finally, I got a very positive vibe from the epilogue. That they were able to answer 5 or 6 answers in 12 minutes gave me the distinct feeling that all of our questions have answers. In other words, just because we have questions that haven't been answered, it doesn't mean that there are no answers to those questions. Think about the real world. There are many things about the universe and even the planet earth that are not understood. But that doesn't mean that these things are unknowable. I think that LOST created a real enough world that I am able to apply the same principle to it.

Of course you could say that the writers themselves don't have an answer for some of this stuff, but that is besides the point. They created something bigger than themselves. For me, LOST takes on it's own life. It feels real, and that's good enough for me. The unanswered questions just enhance the world. They make it more memorable.

All in all, I have loved LOST. It has been an amazing experience. I really look forward to starting from the beginning and taking it all in again.

 

[pixletwin]

As I mentioned in my review a few pages back (in spoiler tags), the secret disc contains the 3 hours of never before seen bonus material.

Yes I remember. Do you (or anyeone else) care to expand a bit? "3 hours of never before seen bonus material" is a wee bit vague.

 

[fawk3s]

I dont think WHY Walt is special was actually answered. They hinted to his father who's dead and all, but Hurley could talk to the dead too.

Why was he in a mental hospital though? Didnt quite catch that.

 

[ShadowX81]

4) Why women couldn't give birth on the island.

This one was pretty shakey. No amount of electromagnetism would make a woman drop dead like a time bomb at the same exact time.

And if Ben always had access to these Dharma materials he would have known this from the beginning, instead of recruiting Juliet to research it for 3 years.

 

[beeshaw]

I liked the Epilogue too. It was pretty tongue in cheek in a 'you want answers? Fine, here you go...' kind of way, which I appreciated since I don't think it was necessary. I liked the Walt stuff best though, since that was the MAJOR thing that I felt needed to be tied up, and really, it got as tied up as I expected it to be.

 

[beeshaw]

Yes I remember. Do you (or anyeone else) care to expand a bit? "3 hours of never before seen bonus material" is a wee bit vague.

I skimmed through it the other night. It has a retrospective look at the series with interviews with some of the cast and crew, a featurette on the prop master, some stuff on the scoring of the final episode, and some odds and ends from other seasons (deleted scenes and stuff). It's the bonus disc for the set really.

 

[CAhobbit]

I dont think WHY Walt is special was actually answered. They hinted to his father who's dead and all, but Hurley could talk to the dead too.

Why was he in a mental hospital though? Didnt quite catch that.

I assumed that Walt was special for two reasons:

1. He could talk to the dead
2. He was the one that would take over for Hurley eventually

I would imagine he was in the mental hospital for many of the same reasons Hurely was...ie: he was talking to dead people and thought he was crazy.

 

[pixletwin]

I assumed that Walt was special for two reasons:

1. He could talk to the dead
2. He was the one that would take over for Hurley eventually

I would imagine he was in the mental hospital for many of the same reasons Hurely was...ie: he was talking to dead people and thought he was crazy.

He could also communicate telepathically.

 

[pixletwin]

I skimmed through it the other night. It has a retrospective look at the series with interviews with some of the cast and crew, a featurette on the prop master, some stuff on the scoring of the final episode, and some odds and ends from other seasons (deleted scenes and stuff). It's the bonus disc for the set really.

Thanks beeshaw.

 

[Shropt]

I dont think WHY Walt is special was actually answered. They hinted to his father who's dead and all, but Hurley could talk to the dead too.

Why was he in a mental hospital though? Didnt quite catch that.

Walt's part in the epilogue made me really think that we will be getting LOST made for TV movies at some point. It seemed like the whole epilogue was a pilot for a new series.

 

[CAhobbit]

Walt's part in the epilogue made me really think that we will be getting LOST made for TV movies at some point. It seemed like the whole epilogue was a pilot for a new series.

Oh man, I hope not. I LOVED 'Lost', but IMO we don't need any kind of spin-offs or made for TV movies. Letting it stand as is seems appropriate at this point. Enough answers were given, it wrapped up nicely, etc. But that's just my thoughts on it. Of course I know other fans want more, more, more of course, which I can understand.

 

[beeshaw]

I'd be down for like a comic prequel/sequel. Like how Buffy/Angel and Firefly have gone.

 

[beeshaw]

Thanks beeshaw.

No sweat!

Actually here's a review of the bonus disc and the packaging itself... It's a little more in depth than my brief-from-memory rundown.

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Lost-The-Complete-Collection-Blu-ray/9557/#Review

Letting Go: Reflections of a Six Year Journey (39:43; 1080i) is a bittersweet assemblage of reminiscences by the cast and crew, with some fun interstitials of the gorgeous Hawaii scenery. Daniel Dae-Kim appears throughout flying around the island in a helicopter. There are also some home movies of various episodes being shot.

Artifacts of the Island: Inside the Lost Prop House (14:07; 1080i) Rob Kyker, Lost's prop master takes us on a guided tour of the storage facility for Lost's props, including huge Tupperware storage bins devoted to each of the major characters.

Planet Lost (11:55; 1080i and 480p) has some fun segments of Lost fans around the world waxing enthusiastic about their favorite show. There are also scenes from the series dubbed into a variety of foreign languages, as well as Cuse and Lindelof at some little geek-fest I think is called Comic-Con or something like that.

Swan Song: Orchestrating the Final Moments of Lost (13:18; 1080i) is a nice look at the final scoring session for the series, though it includes one laugh out loud, semi-patronizing comment from Evangeline Lilly. Evie waltzes onto the soundstage and congratulates the orchestral players for having as much fun on their jobs as she and the cast did on the island. Oh, yeah, sure, I bet any of those string players is just thrilled to be stuck in a soundstage for days while Lilly and her friends frolic in the tropical paradise of Hawaii.

Lost on Location is the first of two huge arrays of mini-featurettes devoted to backstage musings on various episodes. It's split into three seasons, and includes:

Season 3 (1080i)

* Cost of Living (4:07), dealing with CGI elements and Eko's death;
* Enter 77 (4:39), showing some nice behind the scenes footage of evil Mikhail at The Flame;
* D.O.C. (4:03), focusing on the episode where Juliet determines Sun is pregnant.

Season 4 (1080i)

* Eggtown (2:11) has Evangeline Lilly talking about the correspondence between the sudden celebrity of the Oceanic Six and her own personal life after shooting to stardom in Lost.

Season 5 (1080i)

* This Place is Death (5:05) talks about Jin's reemergence in the series, albeit back in time with Danielle;
* 316 (5:23) depicts the incredible feat of building an airline terminal basically overnight and then tearing it down just as fast.

The Lost Slapdowns (45:06; 1080i) is one of the sillier, more useless extras included in this set, patently stupid, fitfully amusing skits featuring Cuse, Lindelof and people like Paul Scheer or Michael Emerson in what amount to nothing more than promos for the Blu-ray and DVD releases of the series.

Deleted Scenes (1:44:00; 1080i and 480p) is an assemblage of interesting, but not completely compelling, segments from seasons 3 and 5, made even less appealing by their ugly video presentation.

More from the Series is the second huge compendium of featurettes, most offering behind the scenes footage of various segments or episodes. It includes:

Season 4 (1080i)

* Regina's Jump (1:39), showing the suicide leap off the tanker;
* Rat Maze (1:39), an interesting look at building Faraday's maze;
* Ben's Door (1:20), another interesting glimpse at how sets were constructed;
* Hurling Hurley (1:41), wherein our favorite lottery winner learns to heave an ottoman through a window;
* Building the Bomb (2:10) has propmaster Kyker making the C4 bomb which would provide this season's explosive climax.

Season 5 (1080i)

* Ben vs. Desmond (3:20) is a fun excursion through the showdown scene on the pier;
* Locke's Leg (1:50) is a gruesome expose of the prosthetic constructed for Locke's fall;
* Rose and Bernard's Retirement (2:12) is a fun and funny look at the castaways who just up and disappeared—evidently on purpose;
* Jeep Escape (1:16) has Evie doing her own stunt driving;
* Others' Secrets (2:03) doesn't really live up to its title, but details the camp circa 1977;
* Radzinsky at the Flame (2:09) has Eric Lange talking about his contributions to the series;
* Sun and Jin's Wedding (1:04) is a nice look at how a traditional Korean wedding was depicted for the show.

The final extra is another behemoth compilation, this time audio only, entitled The Best of the Lost Podcasts. Though I couldn't take the time to listen to each of these in toto, I did spot check all of them, and they're often very informative and amusing. It's also interesting to note how their format and production qualities were enhanced after the first few, as this ABC.com "exclusive" started catching on with fans. This section includes:

Season 2

* 11/8/05 Abandoned (17:54)
* 3/20/06 The Whole Truth (28:54)
* 3/28/06 Lockdown (28:10)
* 4/3/06 Dave (17:21)
* 6/13/06 Harold Perrineau and Malcolm David Kelley (15:57)

Season 3

* 2/20/07 Stranger in a Strange Land (28:09)
* 4/16/07 Catch 22 (27:08)
* 5/4/07 The Man Behind the Curtain (24:30)
* 5/11/07 Greatest Hits (27:47)
* 9/22/07 Anniversary of Oceanic Flight 815 (26:46)

Season 4

* 2/19/08 Eggtown (23:24)
* 3/21/08 Meet Kevin Johnson (26:14)
* 5/7/08 Cabin Fever (23:44)
* 5/19/08 Shape of Things to Come (25:17)

Season 5

* 3/26/09 Whatever Happened Happened (18:33)
* 4/6/09 Dead is Dead (19:11)
* 4/23/09 The Variable (22:14)
* 5/11/09 The Incident (22:25)
* 5/16/09 Michael Emerson (9:43)

Season 6

* 8/6/09 Edward Kitsis and Adam Horowitz (19:35)
* 2/4/10 What Kate Does (23:10)
* 2/22/10 Lighthouse (19:57)
* 4/15/10 The Last Recruit (26:25)
* 5/14/10 What They Died For (32:10)

 

[Maglor]

Yes I remember. Do you (or anyeone else) care to expand a bit? "3 hours of never before seen bonus material" is a wee bit vague.

Sorry. I was trying to get you more specific info, but Bee beat me to it.

This one was pretty shakey. No amount of electromagnetism would make a woman drop dead like a time bomb at the same exact time.

I think that can be explained away simply by saying that the "electromagnetism" was unlike anything we are familiar with. The properties of the island were totally unique, which is why Dharma was studying it so intently.

And if Ben always had access to these Dharma materials he would have known this from the beginning, instead of recruiting Juliet to research it for 3 years.

Interesting point. I guess the key word is "if." We don't know when Ben got a hold of that info. It appears that the transfer of the Dharma Beta tapes to DVD is a recent development, so maybe Ben and Hurley had recently scoured the island for all things Dharma and that's when Ben first found that out.



Just sayin' that you can always find a way to doubt and there is always a way to find a way to make it work. Although I enjoy picking this stuff apart, I prefer to be a "believer'.

 

[pixletwin]

Thanks Maglor.

 

[SwedishHeat]

K, I need a FAQ for this complete set box.

How do I play Sennet??

Where is the hidden disc?? I think it's hidden underneath the island map, cuz I can feel that it's loose, but I have no idea how to get it open.

I already used the black light, and found the blast door map on the inside of the wrapper and the compass on the island map. I think that's everything.

It seems like Jacob's message is a remote control command to find stuff, but what disc do you use??

AAAGGHHH!!! Too many mysteries, we were supposed to get answers!!!!

EDIT: a-HA!!! I found the disc. . . that's GENIUS!!!

 

[Nuka Cola Kidd]

Does the hidden disc come with the DVD set too? Thats what I got cause me no haz a blu ray haha.


Edit: Yes it does... YAY!

 

[beeshaw]

SwedishHeat: on the island map under the lid you'll see parts of an Ankh on the top and bottom. You need to turn the map portion so those are matched with their better halfs.

Edit: just saw your edit! Lol that's the disc to put on when you follow Jacob's note.

 

[tomandshell]

How do I play Sennet??

It seems like Jacob's message is a remote control command to find stuff, but what disc do you use??

The note from Jacob hidden inside the ankh has a set of hieroglyphic symbols that match the ones on the sleeve holding the hidden bonus disc. Put that disc in your player and from the main menu, use the directional buttons on your remote to enter the sequence on the note. You will get a secret video that talks about the history and meaning of the game and gives you an overview of the instructions. (I would need to watch it again and take notes if I actually wanted to try and play it.)