Media Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain & Ground Zeroes

[Dead-Man]

Kojima Interview

 

[Furyan]

Why should we criticize the trailer? Unless the trailer is ****ing awful I really don't care about the artistic value of a trailer at all, nor should anybody, besides it's not like we're actually criticizing the trailer, we're criticizing the game based on the trailer, which is not being insightful, nor a sign of not jumping on the bandwagon it's just making conjectures.

People/fanboys/haters use the people as an accolade or as complaint, depending on their point of view, such as "that movie/game is a classic for a reason, people loved it" or "People love that game/movie, it's overrated, sheeps".

It's delusional to think the entirety of individuals in the masses are mindless when it comes to liking something you dislike, it's a method to reassure yourself into your own opinion, nothing more.

It's just as easy to jump into the hate bandwagon as it is to jump into the hype one.

Point being, I'm not against the negative opinions at all, but I'm annoyed by the lingering air or pretension of the negative opinions being somehow higher/better cemented than the positive ones.

Having said that, the new trailer hinted at almost everything I'm expecting from the storyline, the highlight being BigBoss shown loosing it, you can feel he's changed throughout the trailer.

People tearing apart the trailer are kidding themselves, I remember MGS2 trailers being awful, not even showing Raiden, it was shameless misleading advertising and "people" think this is bad.....

Very well said,totally agree.

 

[pturtle]

So no Gameplay Demo ... Bummer

Kojima has been teasing something planned for tomorrow, hopefully it's gameplay.


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[Baneofdemon22]

@Solidus What don't you like about the rocket peace? I think it's some neat black comedy. You wouldn't have to know anything about Metal Gear to know what it means!

I think the horn is a nice aesthetic to add to his increasing ego. When I was a teenager, I got sliced across the side of my face by someone, so I decided that I'd look tough if I embraced it, and I cut myself with a knife to make an X with it. Seeing Big Boss keeping shrapnel in his head, reminded me of it. It was really stupid of me, but it worked.

@Dead-man Thanks for the interview!

@pturtle That's good to know! I'm looking forward to seeing it! With these next gen graphics, I'm really scared to mess up on those quick time sequences. Can you imagine the horror games with graphics like these? Yikes!

 

[GasparZizou]

I think the horn is a nice aesthetic to add to his increasing ego. When I was a teenager, I got sliced across the side of my face by someone, so I decided that I'd look tough if I embraced it, and I cut myself with a knife to make an X with it. Seeing Big Boss keeping shrapnel in his head, reminded me of it. It was really stupid of me, but it worked.

Remember me to never disagree with you about anything.

I like how scars look though, but sadly the only one I've got it's my ugly appendectomy one

 

[pturtle]

@pturtle That's good to know! I'm looking forward to seeing it! With these next gen graphics, I'm really scared to mess up on those quick time sequences. Can you imagine the horror games with graphics like these? Yikes!

Yea, I have a feeling horror games are going to be huge this gen. Hopefully Alien Isolation is that game.

 

[Solidus]

@Solidus What don't you like about the rocket peace? I think it's some neat black comedy. You wouldn't have to know anything about Metal Gear to know what it means!

I think the horn is a nice aesthetic to add to his increasing ego. When I was a teenager, I got sliced across the side of my face by someone, so I decided that I'd look tough if I embraced it, and I cut myself with a knife to make an X with it. Seeing Big Boss keeping shrapnel in his head, reminded me of it. It was really stupid of me, but it worked.

@Dead-man Thanks for the interview!

@pturtle That's good to know! I'm looking forward to seeing it! With these next gen graphics, I'm really scared to mess up on those quick time sequences. Can you imagine the horror games with graphics like these? Yikes!

Wtf, I need to know more about this story! Were you in a gang or something? I guess based on your personal experience, you might like the horn thing.

The rocket arm was corny as hell, in my opinion. I'd expect it from an Austin Powers movie, but not MGS.

 

[GasparZizou]

Yes, I also want to know the story, please tell us Bane

 

[FSLAR]

Because Henry needs these to live .

Rocket peace, dildo head, pony tail... um, well actually the pony tail is something cool. But, everything else about his new look sucks!!!!!!!!

He'll enjoy it you know, Henry would be into kinky stuff

 

[ronri]

Love the horned look personally, visual metaphors/symbolism are always fun. Trailer didn't excite me as much as the "Garbage" and "Sins Of The Father" trailer though it's not bad either. Not really surprised about the "music video" quality of the trailer since Konami and MGS fans have been entrenched in the AMV-making scene for quite some time now with a back-and-forth relationship on the subject. Rather intrigued about Skull Face hanging out with BB. That scene could mean anything though so I'm not even gonna bother to extrapolate.

 

[Dellyboy]

Does anyone know if the trailer was leaked with english dub at the end instead of japanese? It would be interesting to know what was said in that convo.

 

[Solidus]

He'll enjoy it you know, Henry would be into kinky stuff

Henry's an odd kid . But, he knows his gifs. I remember the stash he showed me a few months ago. The Internet has not been the same for me since then.

 

[pturtle]

Does anyone know if the trailer was leaked with english dub at the end instead of japanese? It would be interesting to know what was said in that convo.

Here you go!

 

[Solidus]

Love the horned look personally, visual metaphors/symbolism are always fun. Trailer didn't excite me as much as the "Garbage" and "Sins Of The Father" trailer though it's not bad either. Not really surprised about the "music video" quality of the trailer since Konami and MGS fans have been entrenched in the AMV-making scene for quite some time now with a back-and-forth relationship on the subject. Rather intrigued about Skull Face hanging out with BB. That scene could mean anything though so I'm not even gonna bother to extrapolate.

Please feel free to essay bomb, if you're in the mood . I'm very intrigued about hearing some theories about why Skull Face and Big Boss are in cahoots with each other. Based on GZ, I'm under the impression that Paz's torture/death may be an elaborate ruse to fool Zero. And I think Skull Face may have been Big Boss's ally from the beginning (albeit in secret). It's interesting that Camp Omega's security was so laxed, and even the position of Chico's prison cell was right next to a cliff which served as the perfect extraction point.

Does anyone know if the trailer was leaked with english dub at the end instead of japanese? It would be interesting to know what was said in that convo.

Your best bet is to check YouTube. The trailer videos has been posted numerous times, but Konami keeps taking them down.

 

[Dellyboy]

Here you go!

SWEEEEEEET

 

[GasparZizou]

"We'll make diamonds from their ashes, take them into battle with us."

I.Loved.That.

 

[Solidus]

"We'll make diamonds from their ashes, take them into battle with us."

I.Loved.That.

If memory serves correctly from my studies in thermodynamics, you'll need at least several Giga Pascals of pressure, in addition to a massively high temperature (roughly, 30 percent of the temperature of the Earth's core) to even produce diamonds . I'm not sure if they can be made from ashes...

 

[GasparZizou]

If memory serves correctly from my studies in thermodynamics, you'll need at least several Giga Pascals of pressure, in addition to a massively high temperature (roughly, 30 percent of the temperature of the Earth's core) to even produce diamonds . I'm not sure if they can be made from ashes...

You are right, I don't remember the numbers but you need a **** ton of pressure and a **** ton of heat

Also, if I remember correctly, with enough pressure you can turn anything into a diamond.

https://www.cremationsolutions.com/c4/Cremation-Diamonds-Made-From-Ashes-c39.html

 

[ronri]

Please feel free to essay bomb, if you're in the mood . I'm very intrigued about hearing some theories about why Skull Face and Big Boss are in cahoots with each other. Based on GZ, I'm under the impression that Paz's torture/death may be an elaborate ruse to fool Zero. And I think Skull Face may have been Big Boss's ally from the beginning (albeit in secret). It's interesting that Camp Omega's security was so laxed, and even the position of Chico's prison cell was right next to a cliff which served as the perfect extraction point.

Don't know about Paz's torture/death being an elaborate ruse, but I'm slowly getting vibes that Big Boss's potential alliance with Skull Face could very well serve as a part of his "path to villainy", to put it bluntly. I can easily see that sort of thing rubbing Miller the wrong way (at least going by the original Metal Gear lore where he eventually hates BB). Doesn't help that Big Boss seems more focused on just going after Zero. That isn't to say that Skull Face doesn't have an agenda of his own, since I'm doubtful that the two would suddenly become buddies and stay that way throughout the story. It's also highly possible for Skull Face to justify his actions "because Zero made me do it" as a means of getting BB on his side (which would work well with the whole BB turning-into-a-villain angle).

That said, I think what this game desperately needs is more presence from Zero himself (not in the trailer, god no, at least in the game I mean). Ever since MGS4, Zero and the idea of The Patriots seemed almost non-existent and borderline non-threatening; which didn't help at all since part of the whole "Liquid Ocelot" ruse relied on how threatening they were supposed to come across, enough for Ocelot to devise such a plan in the first place . PW didn't help, what with Paz being a proxy agent for Cipher who's supposedly been deprived of a childhood because of Zero's training. We hear all these stories about how Zero became this horrible person that practically became a tyrannical puppet master despite worshiping BB yet that's all that we keep getting: stories.

MGS2 was the last time I felt any sense of dread towards The Patriots, and I hope to see that feeling return. We need a little more show-don't-tell this time around else BB's conflict with Zero will fall flat. Unless the point of all this is to show how much more dangerous and impulsive BB truly is in comparison, then I wouldn't mind seeing how they'd handle that as well.

 

[Solidus]

That's scary. So, I guess there's going to be some way to explain it in the story. Maybe they'll have to use Metal Gear ZEKE/REX's nuclear core to do it. Seems like a waste of energy, though. Maybe Big Boss's electric bill is what sends him over the edge .