Official Enterbay-Hot Toys Bruce Lee Line General Thread
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RM-X body is nice to display without pose. Hopefully they could improve and learn the lesson that BL body need to be posable. I am eager to see how well the new body for the Big Boss is and maybe a chance to replace those RM-X at a lower price. Cheers
mrchris
Super Freak
the RM-X torso was fine.an update on the posability on the arms/elbows without splitting would be good,without too ugly a joint
yep brucey needs moving eyes!!
yep brucey needs moving eyes!!
Rogerbee
Super Freak
Well, let's see..
T-Bag: No moving eyes
Ip Man: No moving eyes
Leon: No moving eyes
Onimusha: No moving eyes
Scarface: No moving eyes
Smiling GOD: No moving eyes
Che: No moving eyes
Hmm, not many there. Perhaps they''ll want to keep costs down and won't do it. They used to do an individual system for each head, what would cost less, tooling that or just casting a one piece head?
Times are tough and now is not the time for gimmicks
T-Bag: No moving eyes
Ip Man: No moving eyes
Leon: No moving eyes
Onimusha: No moving eyes
Scarface: No moving eyes
Smiling GOD: No moving eyes
Che: No moving eyes
Hmm, not many there. Perhaps they''ll want to keep costs down and won't do it. They used to do an individual system for each head, what would cost less, tooling that or just casting a one piece head?
Times are tough and now is not the time for gimmicks
mrchris
Super Freak
the older system on the previous BL heads worked fine.so i cant see why they dont continue with that.
Rogerbee
Super Freak
Probably because it's Arnie's system. I think EB may have wrongheadedly seen PERS and tried to copy it.
We shall see....
axecutioner18
Super Freak
Arnie had no hand developing the system. It was JC Hong's idea. And is copyrighted by EB so there is no legalities involved. I dont think you guys should speculate if moving eyes will be or not be there yet.
EB have never been afraid of trying new things, Im sure they will want to keep one of their best working systems still working for them.
But personally after the amazing recent figures with tremendous paint jobs that Im seeing them make, Im sure Bruce with no matter what eye system will look fantastic!
Rogerbee
Super Freak
Thanks for clarifying. Perhaps ask Bill if any future Bruce will have moving eyes!?
Stanlore
Super Freak
Rogerbee
Super Freak
Claps indeed!
You only need to look at the HT DX figures to see what can go wrong. They used the Bruce sized PERS units on Indy and the 89 Joker and ruined great heads because of it. And before anyone goes on about the heads it did work on, that was because the heads were the same size as Bruce. Anything before Bruce used a slightly different system.
Just because you can do something doesn't always mean you should!
You only need to look at the HT DX figures to see what can go wrong. They used the Bruce sized PERS units on Indy and the 89 Joker and ruined great heads because of it. And before anyone goes on about the heads it did work on, that was because the heads were the same size as Bruce. Anything before Bruce used a slightly different system.
Just because you can do something doesn't always mean you should!
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Anyone buy a ttm 17 body anywhere besides ebay? Or is the 60$ price on ebay not bad
Lejuan
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You guys are mad. 2 FoF, 2 EtD and 1 Kato says moving eyes aren't a big deal. HT's system is wholly stupid and shouldn't be compared with EB's original set-up, which only caused Arnie some difficulty with WoD. The recent set-up EB tried out with GoD III perhaps affected the sculpt, or maybe it was just YJ Park's lack of match-fitness with sculpting for moving eyes. Either way, I'm confident they'll get it right for their next Bruce. A smiling Bruce is one thing, but an action-oriented Bruce with a fixed gaze wouldn't be a good move.
Rogerbee
Super Freak
No and I don't know.
I remember seeing that too. I might be misremembering, but I believe it was because they were disappointed with the GoD head once they added the movable eyes (which I think came after a long period of showing the prototype without). After that I thought they said no more movable eyes for Bruce Lee specifically.
mrchris
Super Freak
that's dissapointing all BL figures previous to the 3rd GOD (pers type)worked great with the seperate eye movement.and bruce did use his eyes a lot for expression.i think even the smile GOD head would benefit with moving eyes.time will tell i suppose
yes it does the torso is fine but is not the Bruce lee's torso....
because they have tried to improve and reach the HT style...
I disagree, the pers system is perfect you can use any human natural position of the eyes with it, on the contrary with old EB method I've found some difficult to move the eyes in some position, because the joystick of the system eye ball was blocked from the sculpt itself...
is difficulty to describe but I must to dremeled a little bit inside the head to reach a perfect rotation of the eyes...
The big mistake on the BD head was to cut too much the area of the eyes for insert the levers..who will get the third head with painted eyes will have a very good surprise...EB ha improved a lot his quaity of paint of the last figures..
Lejuan
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I just find the PERS stick uncomfortably tight to use and the whole thing over-engineered. But yeh, looking past that, the gaze it achieves with the eyes is very good (except if you want to do a cross-eyed look - something I'm not bothered about on Bruce, but would have had fun with on Jack Sparrow). The eyes I have in FoF Bruce and Bean are fine, but I have heard that people have had trouble achieving good eye position with some sculpts. EB making a bit more room on the inside of the sculpt for any future sculpts is no biggie.
is this a specific Bruce thing?
Honestly I thought to myself if Indy had come with 2 different headsculpts, both without PERS but with different eye positions and facial expressions, I'd have been happier.
With Bruce - early problems with Enterbay for me, specifically WOD, the shiny pupil actually cracked off.... so if you use the moving eyes at all, over time bruce got demon eyes (black pupils no shine)
If Bruce DX came with one head sculpt looking down but eyes up to one side, pretty much covers what you need...
I'm a little freaked out that the PERS for HT is hurting sculpts.
My only beef with EB is pretty much the fact I don't think they are 1/6... their heads are too big, and not scaled right when put with other 1/6 figures.
Just rambling, just got up and having a coffee...
Honestly I thought to myself if Indy had come with 2 different headsculpts, both without PERS but with different eye positions and facial expressions, I'd have been happier.
With Bruce - early problems with Enterbay for me, specifically WOD, the shiny pupil actually cracked off.... so if you use the moving eyes at all, over time bruce got demon eyes (black pupils no shine)
If Bruce DX came with one head sculpt looking down but eyes up to one side, pretty much covers what you need...
I'm a little freaked out that the PERS for HT is hurting sculpts.
My only beef with EB is pretty much the fact I don't think they are 1/6... their heads are too big, and not scaled right when put with other 1/6 figures.
Just rambling, just got up and having a coffee...
