Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (12/16/16) *SPOILERS*

[crows]

shes so cute bros

 

[a-dev]

Never believed the day would come when Disney put Lucas over their knee and gave him a good spanking.

I didn't think the day would come where someone would make a Star Wars film that I immediately, without reservations, consider a true part of the canon. TFA had its moments but, really, nothing like this.

If there's a positivity circle-jerk going on I'm delighted to say 'count me in' for this one

 

[Kamandi]

I'm surprised there isn't more talk about the ending, or maybe not many people saw These Final Hours?

I've only seen two references to it, and one of those was on IMDB and without a response.

I totally caught the similarities. I first noticed when the Death Star laser fires and Cassian decides he needs to go to the Burning Man orgy thing before the world ends, and then he rescued the ewok from the two pedos, then they keep cutting back to the girl he left behind.... Yeah, same movie.

 

[Asta]

Well, just the ending.

 

[greygoose]

One day...Disney will make a SW/Marvel crossover. It won't be canon because by then it won't matter.

With Tony Stark making Vader an Iron Vader Suit. Hot Toys blows their load many times.

 

[Captain Clown]

Tony accidentally builds another Death Star.

 

[crows]

Episode 9

Tony accidentally creates a Vader Android.

Android Vader is too evil

Kylo Ren realizes he was wrong all along and joins the good side.

Vision is taken by the dark Side, becomes a sith (he was a jedi all along)

 

[RIDDICK]

Four hours... Four ****in' hours to wait...

 

[Captain Clown]

May the force be with you.

 

[jye4ever]

I didn't think the day would come where someone would make a Star Wars film that I immediately, without reservations, consider a true part of the canon. TFA had its moments but, really, nothing like this.

If there's a positivity circle-jerk going on I'm delighted to say 'count me in' for this one

Well said.

That's why I don't get RLM probem with this movie.

Yes it's nostalgia but this time the nostalgia was backed up by quality writing, acting, action, mature humor and visuals.

 

[RIDDICK]

Listenin' to the soundtrack while waitin'... The style is very much like Williams' PT music.
Can't say I like it so far because there's no context.

 

[jye4ever]

The music sucks even with context lol.

Wait until you see the movie title that I created for them on my iphone lol.

Why they hit a homerun with everything else yet dropped the ball on the soundtrack is beyond me, that should've been the easiest thing to get right especially since SW music already exists!

 

[TaliBane]

Finally saw it.

I loved the texture and art direction.

The score was great at times while I was watching the film, but I can't seem to remember it so I wonder if that's telling.

The opening of the film surprised me; the way it just started and the tricky rings in shadow giving us that triangular silhouette.

Wasn't a fan of the title treatment.

Cassian's first act surprised me; I had no idea his character would be so hard. But his crisis of conscience after that was too convenient.

I heard a lot of commentary about the pacing in the first 2 acts, but honestly didn't notice it being slow or too unwieldy.

The combat sequences were some of the most visceral I've seen in any SW film.

I thought the humour was well-placed.

K2SO, while very entertaining, remains obviously *quite* problematic given that we never see that incredibly effective make and model again.

The Death Troopers were interesting but I'm still not sure how much they added other than being Krennic's vanity squad.

I'm of two minds regarding the realism and grim tone. A part of me found it immensely entertaining and satisfying; a part of me recoils a touch at the post-modern cynicism written into the film. It was pretty heavy at times.

I thought Tarkin was very well done.

Leia...I was fine with the look, but I thought the tonal shift from tragedy to "hope" was a little abrupt.

I liked how they handled Vader in his castle, which is a nod to an old Lucas treatment if I recall, but I don't recall his prosthetics being detachable.

The pitched space battle was epic.

The actor playing Vader is wrong. I could deal with the costume being a little different, but instead of striding or gliding, this Vader had a bounce in his step, and those shoulders looked way too broad.

Vader mauling fleet troopers was fan-service-y but it was effective. I just think I would have been more impressed if he moved more like Prowse.

I get that they're warriors, but having Jyn and Cassian staring down a supersonic blast wave was a little much.

The war film influences were obvious; also noted that it seemed to channel more Frank Herbert on the sci-fi side.

Saw's inexplicable suicide is right up there with Pa Kent's in Man Of Steel. Were his mecha-legs too slow??

Jyn's father -- I don't quite get how he assimilated himself into the Imperial war machine after they shot his wife in front of him, but okay. Not that he didn't have reason to infiltrate it, but they trusted him after that?

I *loved* seeing Red Leader and Gold Leader in battle.

Loved Evazan and Ponda.

The film is so tonally dissonant to other Star Wars films, I have difficulty comparing it to them.

I thoroughly enjoyed it, I'm just not sure where to put it yet. Will see it again on Wednesday.

Yeah, great review - I'm pretty much on the same page. Loved it - BUUUT.......

Still getting my head around rebels battling bureaucratic rebels and heroes shooting people in the back because - well, not sure exactly... other than it's bleak and bad*ss.

Hey, post-9/11 I guess. We ALL bad*ss rappers with tatts nowadays so cowboys and farmboys pining over sunsets ain't gonna cut it no more.

 

[Asta]

Yeah, great review - I'm pretty much on the same page. Loved it - BUUUT.......

Still getting my head around rebels battling bureaucratic rebels and heroes shooting people in the back because - well, not sure exactly... other than it's bleak and bad*ss.

Hey, post-9/11 I guess. We ALL bad*ss rappers with tatts nowadays so cowboys and farmboys pining over sunsets ain't gonna cut it no more.

Let's not forget that the pining farmboy killed over 2 million with one shot.

A lot of good janitors and cleaning ladies died that day...

 

[MegaPrime33]

I agree with a lot of people that the music really wasn't on par with SW movies. Goes to show our instrumental (pun intended) Williams is to the franchise.

 

[RIDDICK]

Eh, so far this soundtrack is much better than the bland mediocrity that Williams did for "The Forced Awakening".
Anyway, off to see the movie.

 

[crows]

how come the guy only had 4 weeks to make the music? what happened?

 

[theuzi9mm]

I was wondering this aspect after roominating on the movie after I saw it. I'll encase it in spoiler tags just in case.

Since we now know that

Spoiler

the death star was intentionally made with a specific weakness, one which was pretty much un noticed by the Empire during its construction. And in ANH the Rebels attack the DS and find the thermal exhaust port along the trench which we all know blows it up. But we know the exhaust port wasn't the weakness per se, just the means to the end.

Now even then the Empire didn't know that the exhaust port was the critical link to the inherent design weakness. What I wonder is, they had to have been building the second DS, (the one we see in ROTJ) around the time of the first one, the Emprire would still be oblivious to the DESIGN FLAW. I would think that by the time ROTJ rolled around they knew to protect the exhaust port. However, I wonder if by learning to protect the exhaust port, would have had them stumble onto the design weakness? Doesn't seem as if they figured it out because while they didn't use the exhaust port to destroy the second DS, they still blew up the reactor which causes the chain reaction. They just got to in from a different way. Seems like they didn't get the memo, and even in TFA Starkiller base still had some weakness point, as when something got taken out, a cascading chain reaction destroyed it.

 

[EVILFACE]

Four hours... Four ****in' hours to wait...

Take a pillow man, that first hour is boooorrrring.

 

[jye4ever]

Eh, so far this soundtrack is much better than the bland mediocrity that Williams did for "The Forced Awakening".
Anyway, off to see the movie.

Yeah that's true, TFA music wasn't any better.