Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (12/16/16) *SPOILERS*

[theuzi9mm]

"we're gonna build a death star, and the rebels are gonna pay for it...."

 

[DiFabio]

Can someone point me to the line of dialog from AotC where it says the Geonocians were the authors/designers of the Death Star. All I can discern is that they were assigned the task of figuring out how to build it. So I don't see RO as containing any sort of Retcon.

Tarkin is clearly Death Star's daddy, even Revenge of the Sith depicts this.




AOTC is retconned!


Only Revenge of the Sith, Rogue One, Han Solo: The movie, A New Hope, Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi and The Force Awakens are canon now.

 

[theuzi9mm]

Tarkin is clearly Death Star's daddy, even Revenge of the Sith depicts this.

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AOTC is retconned!


Only Revenge of the Sith, Rogue One, Han Solo: The movie, A New Hope, Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi and The Force Awakens are canon now.

That's the scene I was thinking of when trying to come up with the time in between ROTS and RO. If what I read was true something like 20yrs or so elapse from ROTS to RO, so it must have taken them quite a long time to build it. BUT that also begs the question, they must have been constructing the second (ROTJ) DS at the same time or approximately.

 

[Khev]

That's the scene I was thinking of when trying to come up with the time in between ROTS and RO. If what I read was true something like 20yrs or so elapse from ROTS to RO, so it must have taken them quite a long time to build it. BUT that also begs the question, they must have been constructing the second (ROTJ) DS at the same time or approximately.

Ralph McQuarrie theorized through concept art the notion of multiple Death Stars being built simultaneously under various stages of development during the planning stages of ROTJ.

One thing that's kind of cool about "Galen's revenge" is that the Empire never learned that he actually put the reactor flaw in there deliberately. Jyn told Krennic about the flaw but it was just moments before they both died. So no one else ever knew. For all the Empire knew reactors are inherently vulnerable and Galen's message was just warning the Rebels that the DS existed at all.

So the Emperor could have conceivably just continued with the next DS completely oblivious to the fact that he was signing off on sabotaged designs yet again. Galen's revenge was far reaching indeed.

 

[theuzi9mm]

Ralph McQuarrie theorized through concept art the notion of multiple Death Stars being built simultaneously under various stages of development during the planning stages of ROTJ.

One thing that's kind of cool about "Galen's revenge" is that the Empire never learned that he actually put the reactor flaw in there deliberately. Jyn told Krennic about the flaw but it was just moments before they both died. So no one else ever knew. For all the Empire knew reactors are inherently vulnerable and Galen's message was just warning the Rebels that the DS existed at all.

So the Emperor could have conceivably just continued with the next DS completely oblivious to the fact that he was signing off on sabotaged designs yet again. Galen's revenge was far reaching indeed.

That's what I was thinking, that the Empire really never would have had the chance to realize the intentional flaw, and the ROTJ DS would have had the same issue if it were completed. They just didn't have the full equatorial trench built so they could take a shortcut and fly right to the reactor, vs. shooting proton torpedos down the shaft....

 

[Khev]

And of course as long as the deflector shield wasn't taken down then any weaknesses with the structure itself was mute. The Emperor obviously knew that the unfinished DS was porous as hell but the shield was supposed to be his ace in the hole.

 

[Centurion]

And of course as long as the deflector shield wasn't taken down then any weaknesses with the structure itself was mute. The Emperor obviously knew that the unfinished DS was porous as hell but the shield was supposed to be his ace in the hole.

The Emperor wasn't counting on the Ewoks though. He overlooked those furry bastards.

 

[theuzi9mm]

yub yub

 

[pixletwin]

Just because the Geonocians had a design doesn't make them the architect. Right? So even then, I don't see it as having ever been canon that the Geonocians were the architects. Seems like they were Separatists go to factory workers. If that makes sense,

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

 

[Khev]

But I don't believe that the Geonosians even had an alliance with Dooku prior to him coming to meet on their planet. Wasn't that meeting that Obi-Wan was spying on about how all the different leaders were agreeing to join the Separatist movement? So Poggle supposedly had been designing the DS on his own prior to that if AOTC is to be believed.

 

[Wor-Gar]

if AOTC is to be believed.

Here is the real core question?

We should put it to a vote: should AOTC remain as canon? Or should it be stricken from the record like Kamino?

 

[Khev]

"Master Wor-Gar, if Khev says AOTC isn't canon then it simply does not exist."

 

[jye4ever]

Ralph McQuarrie theorized through concept art the notion of multiple Death Stars being built simultaneously under various stages of development during the planning stages of ROTJ.

One thing that's kind of cool about "Galen's revenge" is that the Empire never learned that he actually put the reactor flaw in there deliberately. Jyn told Krennic about the flaw but it was just moments before they both died. So no one else ever knew. For all the Empire knew reactors are inherently vulnerable and Galen's message was just warning the Rebels that the DS existed at all.

So the Emperor could have conceivably just continued with the next DS completely oblivious to the fact that he was signing off on sabotaged designs yet again. Galen's revenge was far reaching indeed.

I think at that point Krennic wasn't in any rush either to warn Tarkin/Empire once he realized that Tarkin was about to take his ass out with his own creation.

Can you say OUCH!

The Emperor wasn't counting on the Ewoks though. He overlooked those furry bastards.

lolol

yub yub

lolol

 

[Wor-Gar]

"Master Wor-Gar, if Khev says AOTC isn't canon then it simply does not exist."

But these skilled Jedi might still figure it out. They must be killed.

 

[theuzi9mm]

 

[Wor-Gar]

Hear, hear!

 

[a-dev]

Now, killing younglings did not make Anakin a bad ass, it made me question the forgiveness he received later on instead.

Yyyyuuuupp. It ruins it completely as far as I'm concerned. Yet another reason I put ROTS way down at the bottom of my ranking and disregard it in my personal canon.

 

[rivera2171]

You've got to get Harmy Star Wars man, high definition restorations of the original theatrical cuts. The movements of the ship models obviously don't perfectly match how they maneuvered in RO but then neither does the Falcon in ESB compared to ANH. I probably got the biggest chuckle seeing the quiet ghost town of Mos Eisley that Ben was so concerned about after that harsh war zone of Jedha.

Just just googled it. I never knew such a thing existed. What a labor of love for sure. Thanks for the info.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Do you buy Harmy or do you just download it?

 

[Khev]

Just just googled it. I never knew such a thing existed. What a labor of love for sure. Thanks for the info.

Sure! If you want help getting discs (complete with vintage label art) just shoot jimjimmyjones85 a PM. You'll never go back to the SE's, *ever.*