Skyfall (aka Bond 23)

[RollingJ]

Giving a character more depth makes them dull?

Why is it such a big deal to learn more about Bond the character? It's not like they pulled that part of his history out of their ass. It came from the original novels. This is what I love about the Craig era. The character can be a lot more deep than most of the movies would leave you to believe.

Sorry they neutered your 2-dimensional fantasy image.

Is there really any need to be so patronising about someone sharing their opinion of a movie???

If you haven't already, you should read Which Lie Did I Tell? By William Goldman. In the section about The Ghost And The Darkness he explains how the script killed off the mystery of Michael Douglas' character by explicitly revealing his backstory.

And, unless you brought your own magic 3d goggles, you watched a two dimensional fantasy image the same as the rest of us.

 

[CelticPredator]

^ To answer your first question, while responding to your post, yes. Yes he needs to patronize you.

 

[RollingJ]

^ To answer your first question, while responding to your post, yes. Yes he needs to patronize you.

Not a very constructive contribution. Nobody needs to patronise anybody. Glad you liked the film. I did too.

 

[CelticPredator]

Well, it depends. It does have it's purpose.

 

[Niltusk]

Is there really any need to be so patronising about someone sharing their opinion of a movie???

Welcome to the internet! It really was nice of Al Gore to put this up for us.

 

[RollingJ]

Welcome to the internet! It really was nice of Al Gore to put this up for us.

Thanks a lot Al Gore! Like spoiling carbon emissions wasn't enough for him.

 

[mfoga]

Is there really any need to be so patronising about someone sharing their opinion of a movie???

If you haven't already, you should read Which Lie Did I Tell? By William Goldman. In the section about The Ghost And The Darkness he explains how the script killed off the mystery of Michael Douglas' character by explicitly revealing his backstory.

And, unless you brought your own magic 3d goggles, you watched a two dimensional fantasy image the same as the rest of us.

Yes when they don't agree with you and must be wrong.

 

[DARKSIDE COLLECTOR]

Best Bond film ever!Craig is the balls!Javier Barden was amazing!Screw anyone who hates this flick.

 

[RollingJ]

Yes when they don't agree with you and must be wrong.

So it would seem.

 

[EVILFACE]

Loved it up until Silva was caught and then became a "villain meant to be captured" cliche. Then it became a average action flick.

Enjoyed Casino Royal far more.

 

[thenammagazine]

Thanks a lot Al Gore! Like spoiling carbon emissions wasn't enough for him.

Because before Al Gore, carbon emissions were not a good thing, but a GREAT thing!

 

[jye4ever]

Loved it up until Silva was caught and then became a "villain meant to be captured" cliche. Then it became a average action flick.

Enjoyed Casino Royal far more.

Leaving for the movie soon.

Lets see.

 

[Arachne]

So, close to the end, did anyone catch this (as I am assuming a lot did, since the camera paused on it for a bit)...

Spoiler

The tombstones marked "Abraham Bond and Monique Delacroix Bond". In Casino Royale, Bond tells M that he thought "M" was a code letter and didn't actually stand for a name. So, is there a big implication that M was really Bond's mother? This reboot has made the M stand for the name, as in the new M, Mallory.

Just some food for thought

 

[Sachiel]

Is there really any need to be so patronising about someone sharing their opinion of a movie???

That's just for those who get irritated when they give us a bit of Bond's backstory and/or when the character shows some kind of actual emotion that they feel "emasculates" him.

It's funny seeing the fans complain when the on-screen character becomes more than just a checklist.

If you haven't already, you should read Which Lie Did I Tell? By William Goldman. In the section about The Ghost And The Darkness he explains how the script killed off the mystery of Michael Douglas' character by explicitly revealing his backstory.

That's just one movie and he may be right in that regard. But they haven't explicitly gone in to Bond's backstory so some mystery is still retained. And again, it's from the novels so it's not something they just came up with for the movie.

This is the 23rd 'official' Bond movie. Bond's character will survive for many more.

So, close to the end, did anyone catch this (as I am assuming a lot did, since the camera paused on it for a bit)...

Spoiler

The tombstones marked "Abraham Bond and Monique Delacroix Bond". In Casino Royale, Bond tells M that he thought "M" was a code letter and didn't actually stand for a name. So, is there a big implication that M was really Bond's mother? This reboot has made the M stand for the name, as in the new M, Mallory.

Just some food for thought

Spoiler

Kincade (Albert Finny) called her Emma, but I'm not sure that's her real name. Probably called her that because Bond called her 'M'. Kincade told her about when James' parents died and how he hid in the cellar. No I really doubt she's his real mother. Something like that would have been a big plot twist. She definitely can be considered a mother-like figure though.

 

[Arachne]

Pretty sure I heard her name said during Skyfall. I just can't remember what it was.

Spoiler

They thought Bond meant her name was "Em", short for Emma, not knowing that he meant "M".

 

[Dark_Knight_89]

Leaving for the movie soon.

Lets see.

With respect to the individual who's opinion has made you " "... Why allow one (rare) negative review influence your thoughts before you see this awesome movie?

... Focus on the glowing reviews from cinema-goers who loved Skyfall, and who far outnumber those who didn't

 

[afaninfull]

Finally got to see Skyfall and without a doubt, this is the film I enjoyed the most this year. I can echo much of what has been written...Silva is a really strong and creepy villain and the film makers give a huge nod to Christopher Nolan's version of the Joker. This is the most beautifully shot Bond film and Roger Deakins certainly deserves an Oscar nomination. The actors are impeccably cast and Dame Judi really is the Bond girl we easily overlooked although Berenice is super easy on my eyes.
I can't say if it's better than Casino Royale (or if it's even necessary) because it sits right alongside it and Goldfinger and On Her Majesty's Secret Service as the great Bond films. Perhaps it's most important strength is that it really cements the reboot of Bond and establishes the core elements for the series to continue in Bond 24 and Bond 25. John Logan has expressed his thoughts on Bond needing Blofield. I imagine Barbara Broccoli and Michael G Wilson are feeling really good about all the smart choices they have made in the creation of Skyfall and as a Bond fan since 1979, I am so happy this film builds on the promise of Casino Royale and the mistakes from Quantum of Solace were not repeated.
When the credits rolled and it was announced that James Bond will return, the audience I saw the film with made it very apparent that the audience will return as well.

 

[rushmore223]

I thougt the whole "James Bond Will Return" in the credits to be kind of obvious.

Why did they bother to put that in, did anybody think this would be the last?


The series has been going on for 50 years, of course he will return.

 

[CelticPredator]

Because it's tradition. Christ.

 

[rushmore223]

Because it's tradition. Christ.

Did all the other Bond films say that in the credits?


If so, I never noticed before.

By the way, I can understand the confusion, but I'm not Christ.