Skyfall (aka Bond 23)

[Sachiel]

Loved the Shanghai fight. The use of light, shadows, reflections, color... Amazing cinematography.

Loved it. Just stunning visually. Bond stalking his prey and a great build up to a really cool fight scene.

 

[CelticPredator]

As a huge geek, the Skyfall timeline is messing with me (yes it's just a movie, but this makes for an interesting discussion.)

Yes, I know CR was a reboot and not a direct prequel to Dr. No. That being said, Bond always lives in the present, which explains how Brosnan is the same guy as Connery and Moore: adjusted timelines. Brosnan and Dalton kicked No's ass on Crab Key in 1982 instead of '62 and so on and so forth. In this new timeline, Bond became 007 in 2006, leaving the door open for any new adventures.

But here, 007 is established as a burnt out veteran agent, and M's #1 guy, implying the missions of previous films happened in between QOS and SF (updated of course, like the 007 Legends game.) This is backed up

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by the gadget-packed DB5. But then we get the old office, male M and Moneypenny at the end, which brings us back full circle.

If the reboot series is unconnected to the previous 20 stories, remember the DB5 in CR was a regular car with the wheel on the lefthand side.

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The one here is presented as the tricked out DB5 with the righthand wheel from GOLDFINGER.

I know it's just a movie, but I'd still like to know where you guys would fit in the grand scheme of things.

CR, QoS, DN-DAD (in the present, tweaked to Craig continuity with Dench's M,) SF
vs.
CR, QOS, SF, DN-DAD

Ok. It goes like this,


Dr. No to Die Another Day. Thats it. That's the end of that series. It's over.

Casino Royale to Skyfall is a new timeline. Has nothing to do with the old one.

That being said, it is still referenced, because it's the same film series. Just a new continuity.


With the older films, they're all stand alone stories with the same characters. Some converge with others, some don't. This is one of those series where every film is it's own thing, aside from a select few.

 

[DiFabio]

Actually, all the Bond films are in the same universe.

007/James Bond is just an agent code name past down to the best of the agents. Just like M, just like Moneypenny, just like Q, just like Blofeld, etc.

OR


There's no continuity at all.

 

[K07]

James Bond was the original reboot. I think when they cast Dalton, they had to throw continuity out the window and fix the timeline. Same thing happened when they cast Craig. But you can take it a step further and view each new Bond as a new continuity.

Only a tiny part of me wished they had recast M in CR to break all connections from the previous film series. But she's so great. Most of me was happy they didn't make that decision as she's a big part in these films. A bigger part than any other M seemed to be in any other series continuity (Brosnan's included).

 

[intothevoid]

It better have the gun barrel at the start. I can see this one breaking CR's grossing record.

I think that's a forgone conclusion

I don't remember any Bond film ever having the buzz this one has had

Already score the best opening weekend Bond performance at the US Box Office.

And already at $518MM worldwide versus $599MM for Casino Royale.
It'll smash past that.

 

[jye4ever]

Already score the best opening weekend Bond performance at the US Box Office.

And already at $518MM worldwide versus $599MM for Casino Royale.
It'll smash past that.

ie; Nolan just has to be mentioned as an inspiration and influence and box office gold occurs.

 

[intothevoid]

ie; Nolan just has to be mentioned as an inspiration and influence and box office gold occurs.

 

[Dark_Knight_89]

Which leads me to my head scratcher:

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I'm having a hard time buying into Bond being allowed to drag M into seclusion like that. Ok, lets say it was because she allowed it, which she did, but Bond said the plan was to bring Silva to them and then capture/kill Silva. Ok, his plan worked, Silva came, in a big ass helicopter, where was the calvary to shoot it down and rescue them?

Anyways, this movie wasn't boring, it was freaking awesome, and YES, one of the best Bond movies.

I think this should clarify things...

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When Bond initially 'kidnaps' M, I believe his attention was to take M somewhere secluded and off-the-grid to take away Silva's advantage, and to also have sufficient weaponry and back up to take Silva down.

HOWEVER, when M agrees to the plan and to being the bait, she says "Alright, but just us, too many people have died because of me" (or words similar to that). So it is M who decides that it should just be her and Bond taking on Silva, it wasn't Bond's decision.

 

[Adolfo]

Don't let Nam see that picture of Nolan...LOL

 

[jye4ever]

That needs to be framed and hung in Nam's living room, just move over the Jesus one.

 

[thenammagazine]

I get the feeling you have this pic stapled on the inside of your chonies.

 

[EVILFACE]

After making a Batman movie with hardly any Batman, that should be printed on toilet paper.

 

[Something Sexy]

The only thing that matters is that this movie destroyed Quantum of Solace and redeemed the franchise.

 

[Craze]

Saw it this weekend, certainly one of the best Bond flicks ever made. The cinematography was gorgeous. Don't miss it.

 

[denger4000]

Actually, all the Bond films are in the same universe.

007/James Bond is just an agent code name past down to the best of the agents. Just like M, just like Moneypenny, just like Q, just like Blofeld, etc.

OR


There's no continuity at all.

I don't agree with that all, other then M maybe. James Bond isn't a ranked...he's a person, actually named James Bond, just like Blofeld. You were more right the second time, there is little to zero continuity in Bond films.

 

[jye4ever]

I never realized Bardem was so tall with a large head.

Definately made him more menacing.

I thought he was going to eat M's head at the end, creepy creepy man, makes for a great villain.

Void should've been a 00 agent in this movie in a scene vs giant Bardem.

 

[intothevoid]

Void should've been a 00 agent in this movie in a scene vs giant Bardem.

I guess i'll understand what you mean by this tomorrow

 

[thenammagazine]

I never realized Bardem was so tall with a large head.

Definately made him more menacing.

I thought he was going to eat M's head at the end, creepy creepy man, makes for a great villain.

Void should've been a 00 agent in this movie in a scene vs giant Bardem.

 

[jye4ever]

You still haven't seen this

And here I thought I was late going, i'm a yank (not really), i'm allowed to be tardy to a Bond opening.

 

[jye4ever]

Yup, that's about right.

Just missing a guitar as his second weapon.