Action Figure Speculation - Deadpool 2 Hot Toys Figures

[Scareb]

Like John wick or Alita or matrix or commando or bttf?

Fair point on John Wick. Alita is a moot point. I'm willing to bet money shes gonna be another tease that goes no further like Prometheus or valerian. Did we get a new commando figure recently? And Smith we basically already knew was coming.

 

[Motuxmen]

No new commando figure. But your post was worded like they never try anything, ever. And I just don’t see that. There’s significantly more marvel/Star Wars because it both sells, and a lot more source material to pull from. Hot toys has hit a large swath of movies and pop culture over the years. From Assassins Creed to Michael jackson to rocky and Rambo and 300 and john wick and matrix and bttf and prison break and 66 Batman and commando and so on. And yes, the valerian figures seem to be dead, but that’s not on hot toys. They tried, the film bombed. Branching out often results in broken branches. They offset those lower sales and failed figures with the iron man and storm trooper type figures that sell.

 

[Dankir]

Hot Toys doesn't have all the Fox licenses yet. It looks like on July 27th the shareholders will finally approve of the Disney purchase of the Fox movie assets, then it's up the Hot Toys to get the remaining licenses.

Who knows we might see more Deadpool 2 figures. But Marvel MCU and Star Wars are their bread and butter and they'll keep making them.

 

[Motuxmen]

The Fox thing is a mess anyway. They (hot toys) have the licenses to most of the X-men (Deadpool included) films but the way fox wrote the contracts for the actors they did not include likeness rights for anything beyond standard promotional items(movie posters, dvd covers, popcorn holders etc but no merchandise) so anyone has to get the actors approvals, and pay them more. Where Warner and Disney require likeness deals for all actors to be included in contracts before they are cast. So hot toys or anyone else has to pay Fox and marvel for the film rights. Already more then any other marvel mcu film. Then also pay the individual actors, who can just flat refuse like most the first class actors did. Once Disney and marvel get the Fox property a lot of those issues will be addressed moving forward.

 

[Dankir]

The Fox thing is a mess anyway. They (hot toys) have the licenses to most of the X-men (Deadpool included) films but the way fox wrote the contracts for the actors they did not include likeness rights for anything beyond standard promotional items(movie posters, dvd covers, popcorn holders etc but no merchandise) so anyone has to get the actors approvals, and pay them more. Where Warner and Disney require likeness deals for all actors to be included in contracts before they are cast. So hot toys or anyone else has to pay Fox and marvel for the film rights. Already more then any other marvel mcu film. Then also pay the individual actors, who can just flat refuse like most the first class actors did. Once Disney and marvel get the Fox property a lot of those issues will be addressed moving forward.

Yup that's why the 27th is the important date. Comcast is trying for Sky but Fox movie's are 99.9% Disney's at this point. So I can only imagine what Hot Toys are planning.

 

[Hoody999]

Yeah, agree once the Fox purchase is done there should be more clarity.

On the upside, even though there is no Cable this year due to above mentioned mess, Deadpool 2 was the setting up of the core X-Force. So I think there will be another movie at least with Cable and Domino. So I guess like us Hot Toys is just waiting for the sale to go through and for the next movie.

I am patient......

 

[Miez_LaKatz]

Hmmm, that‘s interesting, thank you for explaining the fox situation!
On the 27th you say? Perfect timing to show them at the ACGHK
No, just joking...but it‘s a good point...maybe we get a Deadpool wave from Hot Toys some time later...or wait for the next movie, as Hoody says.

EDIT:
Comcast is out
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ers-to-disney-in-fox-bid-to-keep-pursuing-sky

 

[Scareb]

No new commando figure. But your post was worded like they never try anything, ever. And I just don’t see that. There’s significantly more marvel/Star Wars because it both sells, and a lot more source material to pull from. Hot toys has hit a large swath of movies and pop culture over the years. From Assassins Creed to Michael jackson to rocky and Rambo and 300 and john wick and matrix and bttf and prison break and 66 Batman and commando and so on. And yes, the valerian figures seem to be dead, but that’s not on hot toys. They tried, the film bombed. Branching out often results in broken branches. They offset those lower sales and failed figures with the iron man and storm trooper type figures that sell.

Oh don't get me wrong, I definitely know they branch out. Harlock, Metal Gear, Commando, BTTF, etc. and I know they are a business and out to make money so milking Star Wars, Marvel, and DC for all they're worth is a no brainer. But it's still frustrating that essentially for every 20 of those figures, we get 1 figure not related to those licenses and sometimes those figures never even see daylight. But that is the name of the game.

It feels like they are almost like these big movie studios where they put out a movie and there's decent reception and by other company standards, is a huge success but by their own standards is a bomb. Like Ripley for example. A lot of people were excited for it, maybe not so much in the asian markets but definitely everywhere else and Hot Toys dragged their asses on it, obviously because it's not a marvel or star wars figure and therefore see's a fraction of the sales.

 

[guyver1]

There’s always NYCC, but it looks like only this DP is coming out for DP2 from the SDCC display

 

[Motuxmen]

Good points.

Also, there’s a con in two weeks in Hong Kong

 

[SilverPointShield]

The basic problem is that Disney do NOT LIKE the Deadpool "type" of hero movie, in fact Raynolds have said it countless times, if "they" try to change Deadpool way of being and tone down/clean the character, he will be out for good. So probably IF there an X-Force movie or even a Deadpool 3 under Disney...it wont be with the type of characters and/or actors we saw in Deadpool-2, Disney considers DP radioactive of the high yield type!!!!

 

[guyver1]

The basic problem is that Disney do NOT LIKE the Deadpool "type" of hero movie, in fact Raynolds have said it countless times, if "they" try to change Deadpool way of being and tone down/clean the character, he will be out for good. So probably IF there an X-Force movie or even a Deadpool 3 under Disney...it wont be with the type of characters and/or actors we saw in Deadpool-2, Disney considers DP radioactive of the high yield type!!!!

I understand Reynold’s logic, but this was not a Disney production. So I don’t think HT cares , I mean they are doing John Wick..there is no way , that is considered a family film. I think HT has too much under their plate and decided to limit this DP product

 

[Motuxmen]

Not sure that is true. Marvel has said multiple times they would consider R rated films. And no one did hard R (super hero) or liked it till Deadpool and Logan. Disney likes money. The market has evolved. I see no reason they would not continue making films of Deadpool like he is given it makes more then any man and most the Thor films and Dr strange and so on.

 

[DasMuse]

Marvel studios produces the netflix series' content and that is far from family friendly too. I know they aren't movies, but deadpool would fit in with that stuff just fine... If Disney is going to control ~40% of the entertainment industry they need to loosen their grip on the watering down of already established content. Disney is getting it's first major criticism (that I can personally remember, I know there has likely been others) because of their handling of star wars, so they know they aren't above reproach. Although for the most part they are handling that negativity very poorly by blaming fans.
They will definitely have to change with the landscape, because it's clear they don't have the influence to re-shape beloved properties they've acquired like they probably thought/hoped they had. I'm not worried, they may be stubborn, but they aren't stupid.

 

[Hoody999]

Not sure that is true. Marvel has said multiple times they would consider R rated films. And no one did hard R (super hero) or liked it till Deadpool and Logan. Disney likes money. The market has evolved. I see no reason they would not continue making films of Deadpool like he is given it makes more then any man and most the Thor films and Dr strange and so on.

Agree. Not sure if I read this or not. But I recall from somewhere that Disney has the possibility to keep R rated stuff separate.

I mean they won't be putting DP on Disney XD. But with the Fox purchase they have the opportunity to create new "Channels" or however they want to do it to keep it separate. It's clear these R rated movies have their place. I also don't think it is the totally family friendly Disney of old anymore.

 

[Chronos1919]

Family friendly?

 

[SilverPointShield]

When DP-2 indeed Disney was not involved....if it was...probably the movie would have suffer major changes. That is the problem from now on, how Disney will deal with "R" type movies and productions, they can put a million companys and such as separate "production enterprises"...but the bottom line and money....always will come from them. As was said before, they are misshandling very poorly the Star Wars milk cow....and it seems it will continue to do so, so I dont want to imagine when and who is put in full charge of the new "R" rated production division...and to whom the have to report!!
Hot Toys have done and will do a lot of different figures, from "G" rated to "R-17" if needed or ask to by their licence holder clients...but also those "big powerful" clients can influence the company to go in one direction or another by stating they dont like certain things.
Think Hot Toys...and I HOPE am WRONG...are not doing Cable and Dommino mainly because HT and Disney want to concentrate and keep the "cash vein" open with the Avengers/Star Wars productions and merchandise at full speed....since these will have big budget movies back at the cinema very soon once more.......that is the main interest of Disney right now....and their own inhouse productions, so...we have more Iron Man,Fantasy/concept Capt.America and Star Wars stormtroopers variations....than new and interesting characters from DP-2 and other movies. My very personal opinion and view of course!

 

[Miez_LaKatz]

Oh my, have you seen Jin‘s Cable custom on facebook?
I‘m aure he will also share him here.
Oh my, I‘m in love

 

[Hoody999]

Oh my, have you seen Jin‘s Cable custom on facebook?
I‘m aure he will also share him here.
Oh my, I‘m in love

Link ?

Edit : scrap that idea about the link considering what happened with these types of figures.

I managed to find it. Wow, however the cape is a bit big I would say. But definitely an awesome effort !!

 

[SilverPointShield]

The Cable HS of Jin looks fantastic!!...saw that his Cable rifle accsesories are fixed via magnets!!!...great looking weapon! As stated before, the cape is a bit to large and stiff, it should be work over to a better fit and to showcase that amazing HS!...I am doing another Cable with this HS for sure!!!!!