Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

[TaliBane]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

And one more TLJ thread bites the dust.

Nobody was discussing the content of the film anyway - even those who liked it. Just like in the wider internet, it was simply variations on "hated it" and "loved it" and "hate you for hating it" and "hate you for loving it."*

(*and given the nature of the forum and the majority of posts, if you have a specific definition of "threadcrapping" that is not distorted by personal opinion you are a mile ahead of the code of conduct rules and those who enforce them. When I become a Mod this will be my first order of business)

Even though there were disagreements and lots of arguments, the TFA and RO threads were FULL of scene/character discussions and interpretations (and thoughts on the story/character questions raised) in the months after release.

With TLJ, in truth there's just not a whole lot to discuss - so consequently there wasn't much discussion.

What is that, 3?

Up until the latest sortie, yes.

 

[RavenEye]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

And... thread open again... WTF?

 

[Wor-Gar]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

And... thread open again... WTF?

I just saw that. It cannot be killed by fire anymore. Run for the hills!!!

 

[crows]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

And... thread open again... WTF?

i think it might be bait. a trap

dont fall for it

 

[RavenEye]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I just saw that. It cannot be killed by fire anymore. Run for the hills!!!

 

[Khev]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

And... thread open again... WTF?

He used the Time Stone to re-open it just so he can kill it again.

 

[RavenEye]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

He used the Time Stone to re-open it just so he can kill it again.

Too bad he didn't go back enough to the signing deal of Lucasfilm and Disney

 

[monkeyjedi]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Something I found in my relentless quest to reconcile myself with it all...

 

[Darth Snoopy]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

He used the Time Stone to re-open it just so he can kill it again.

Close the thread get hammered by Freaks. Reopen the thread get hammered by Freaks.

Oh well.

 

[YoNoSe]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Recuse yourself!!!

 

[Darth Snoopy]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

@ Junkion

 

[Khev]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Close the thread get hammered by Freaks. Reopen the thread get hammered by Freaks.

Oh well.

Next time someone mouths off to you just edit their post so that it looks like they posted a gif of someone blowing bubbles, lol.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Holy crap lolololol

 

[Khev]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

 

[Darth Snoopy]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

@ Khev

 

[Bravomite]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Next time someone mouths off to you just edit their post so that it looks like they posted a gif of someone blowing bubbles, lol.

That's brilliant haha

 

[Mad Old Lu]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Something I found in my relentless quest to reconcile myself with it all...

Thanks for that, monkeyjedi. I liked his point that Rey has the villain backstory (comes from nothing, sold for booze, has no one) and Kylo has the hero backstory (both a Solo and Skywalker, has a family). Very interesting.

 

[monkeyjedi]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Thanks for that, monkeyjedi. I liked his point that Rey has the villain backstory (comes from nothing, sold for booze, has no one) and Kylo has the hero backstory (both a Solo and Skywalker, has a family). Very interesting.

Thanks, Lu...
I'm still having sleepless nights over this whole fiasco, but nevertheless I'm trying to find some way to make myself feel better about this movie...
It's an interesting and genuinely honest defence he makes, without a shred of sycophancy, but I'm still struggling with the millennial need to paint everything grey...

As I get older, this was my escape... I wasn't really looking for anything too challenging in my Star Wars, all I really wanted was that special kind of charm it's always had...
I want to feel myself welling up with tears as many times as possible, not confused and alone wondering who these people are and where my childhood went?
I don't want to grow up... I do want to feel like I did in 1977 again... It's as simple as that... Give it to me, Disney!!

Roll on IX

 

[Mad Old Lu]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Thanks, Lu...
I'm still having sleepless nights over this whole fiasco, but nevertheless I'm trying to find some way to make myself feel better about this movie...
It's an interesting and genuinely honest defence he makes, without a shred of sycophancy, but I'm still struggling with the millennial need to paint everything grey...

As I get older, this was my escape... I wasn't really looking for anything too challenging in my Star Wars, all I really wanted was that special kind of charm it's always had...
I want to feel myself welling up with tears as many times as possible, not confused and alone wondering who these people are and where my childhood went?
I don't want to grow up... I do want to feel like I did in 1977 again... It's as simple as that... Give it to me, Disney!!

Roll on IX

Well, I respect and admire you for simply having an open mind. Honestly I don't know what kind of advice I can give you. I completely understand your want/need for escapist fun. I too have found myself seeking out more light entertainment in my older days as well, like you, to escape the harsh realities we live in. It's nice to just have a good time.

For me, the sequels have thoroughly provided that escapist fun. I can't rationalize what it is that I enjoy about both movies, other than that they both grabbed me and kept me involved and invested in the characters, particularly Rey and Kylo. When I first watched TLJ, I didn't consider anything in the storytelling to be surprising or "twisty" or subversive to expectations. I just took it as a story that I hadn't seen before and that I didn't know what would be happening next. I had formed some theories about how the story would unfold, based on the trailers, but when it didn't go the way I thought I didn't give it another thought. I just went along with it. I've loved SW ever since I first watched the first one in 1977, but I can recognize it faults, and know that I am much more forgiving of those faults because of the age I was when I first fell in love with those movies. So I'm able to enjoy most movies despite some nit-picky stuff, as long as the characters are engaging. I love the Marvel movies (I've loved Marvel since about the same time as SW), and I actually liked Snider's MOS and BvS (but not JL!), so I consider myself not biased towards anything in particular.

OTOH, I find myself liking Rogue One less and less. I definitely gave RO bonus points when I first watched it in the theater just for being SW. But watching it at home, it's lost most of its luster. I've watched it twice at home, and both times I've had to stop it because I find myself falling asleep. The last time I watched it, it took me 3 tries! I kept falling asleep! I just can't get into the movie and don't find the characters engaging. I like the movie in theory, being a more "grown up" SW, gritty and dark. And the battle over Scariff is cool, as is the Vader scene, but I just don't find myself that involved or engaged in the characters or story. It all feels cold and distant and low energy. So I can understand your frustration in wanting to like something but simply cannot.

 

[TaliBane]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

OTOH, I find myself liking Rogue One less and less. I definitely gave RO bonus points when I first watched it in the theater just for being SW. But watching it at home, it's lost most of its luster. I've watched it twice at home, and both times I've had to stop it because I find myself falling asleep. The last time I watched it, it took me 3 tries! I kept falling asleep! I just can't get into the movie and don't find the characters engaging. I like the movie in theory, being a more "grown up" SW, gritty and dark. And the battle over Scariff is cool, as is the Vader scene, but I just don't find myself that involved or engaged in the characters or story. It all feels cold and distant and low energy. So I can understand your frustration in wanting to like something but simply cannot.

Interesting thoughts, Lu. I think the issue I've had with RO (though I'm kind of the reverse - I've liked it better in seeing it again, though that may be due to the trauma of me giving up on the main trilogy) is it's a bit of a humorless slog. It's a very dour tone with drab sets and costumes, actors underplaying everything, where everyone looks like they haven't showered or shaved in a month (Jyn included.)

I get it - it's a "real" war movie - but as the hard lead-in to the often dazzling and jubilant ANH, it feels a bit odd - sleep-inducing grey flatline replacing energetic and clearly marked black & white of ANH.

The thing I really like most about RO is that it "feels" SW - in terms of the visuals and sequences - even if doing SW as a dark war movie was an easy/obvious thing to do (it was always WWII in space, from costumes to story.) I love the whole Scariff battle, the Tarkin/Vader stuff and quite a few of the visuals (Star Destroyer above the town, death star stuff) and these days, you should feel grateful to have so much goodness in a SW movie. RO is set inside ANH, so its comfort food no matter what.

To me, these are the dark times for SW, the days of the Empire - especially when you remember a more civilized age. RO, deep flaws and all, felt like a little hologram message sent from that era, even if it was static-filled and glitchy.