Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

A guy is re-editing TLJ to change some of the more controversial moments of the film. In this trailer for instance you can see how he removed Luke's saber toss and reversed the footage in one shot so that he instead hands it back to Rey:



(He also changes the Crait duel to include his green lightsaber instead of blue.)
 
Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

The saber being handed back to Rey goes against Luke believing the Jedi need to end. Don't get me wrong it's an interesting choice, and if it were not his fathers lightsaber I would buy that choice more. However, the lightsaber being built by his father and being a symbol of the old ways I cannot see Luke handing it back to Rey. Luke sees it as a symbol of everything wrong with the old Jedi ways and as such discarding it would be something I see Luke doing instead. I wish it were more dramatic and less humorous like his over the shoulder toss but I cannot see it being edited giving the existing footage an editor would have to work with. Wish someone would leak other takes of Luke's toss as I'm sure the toss was not the only version shot. Would have loved it if Luke turned around and threw it as hard as he could into the sea, then turned around and stormed off to his hut.


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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

The saber being handed back to Rey goes against Luke believing the Jedi need to end. Don't get me wrong it's an interesting choice, and if it were not his fathers lightsaber I would buy that choice more. However, the lightsaber being built by his father and being a symbol of the old ways I cannot see Luke handing it back to Rey. Luke sees it as a symbol of everything wrong with the old Jedi ways and as such discarding it would be something I see Luke doing instead. I wish it were more dramatic and less humorous like his over the shoulder toss but I cannot see it being edited giving the existing footage an editor would have to work with. Wish someone would leak other takes of Luke's toss as I'm sure the toss was not the only version shot. Would have loved it if Luke turned around and threw it as hard as he could into the sea, then turned around and stormed off to his hut.

Or change it so that when he takes it he just says "Thanks" and then uses it to immediately commit seppuku right as Chewie crests the hill and sees Luke falling over with the saber Rey had been holding stuck in his belly. Talk about subverting expectations!
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Or change it so that when he takes it he just says "Thanks" and then uses it to immediately commit seppuku right as Chewie crests the hill and sees Luke falling over with the saber Rey had been holding stuck in his belly. Talk about subverting expectations!

[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] Standing over his body, Chewbacca growls and Rey responds to him saying "yes. What a b!# ch"


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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Actually, I just rewatched ROTS in its entirety for the first time in a couple of years and I was surprised at just how good the movie is, and how ell it holds up.

Full disclosure, I'm a big fan of the prequels.
I can see many faults and shortcomings, but I really like them. The overall story is great, the world-building is amazing, the designs, music, and themes are great.

So, going back to ROTS, with all the usual negativity geared towards the PT, when I sat down to watch it with my son I guess I was expecting to find it hadn't aged well. But quite the opposite. I enjoyed it tremendously!

The opening sequence must be among the best of all SW movies, right up there with ANH's Star Destroyer chasing the Tantive IV. The soundtrack is amazing.
It's great how quickly Anakin's more mature character and personality (after years of brutal war) are established: how he deeply cares for his troops and how respectful he is of Obi Wan's leadership. As the rescue of the Chancellor unfolds, Obi Wan and Anakin's friendship and closeness are beautifully written and delivered. When Anakin asks "and the next step?" you can tell he already knows the answer, and Obi Wan dutifully (and playfully) obliges with "spring the trap". That's great writing. The little scene in the elevator about not picking on R2 is also fantastically acted, there's true chemistry between the two.
Of course, there's also silly bits, like R2's encounter with the droids, which is just that - silly.

The lightsaber fights are great, and how quickly and easily Anakin's care for Palpatine is established is also worth noting. No exposition is necessary, you understand immediately through their interaction, a few lines and their acting, that Anakin feels really close to the Chancellor.

And as the movie moves forward, every little thing falls into place beautifully.
Anakin's mounting frustration (goaded by Palpatine), the Jedi Council's mishandling of the entire situation and their mistrust of the Chancellor's true motives play out smoothly. There are some amazing scenes, like Anakin's heartfelt apology to Obi Wan, Palpatine's speech about Darth Plagueis, Anakin and Palpatine's confrontation, Mace Windu's warning to Anakin to not go with them to face the Chancellor... all are relatively short scenes, but they simply work!
Also, the little interactions between Obi Wan and his troops are perfectly written to show the true camaraderie between them, which makes the betrayal of Order 66 so much more heartbreaking.
There's just so much great stuff in that movie.

Oh well, fangasm over.

I'm ready for my punishment now. :lol
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Actually, I just rewatched ROTS in its entirety for the first time in a couple of years and I was surprised at just how good the movie is, and how ell it holds up.

Full disclosure, I'm a big fan of the prequels.
I can see many faults and shortcomings, but I really like them. The overall story is great, the world-building is amazing, the designs, music, and themes are great.

So, going back to ROTS, with all the usual negativity geared towards the PT, when I sat down to watch it with my son I guess I was expecting to find it hadn't aged well. But quite the opposite. I enjoyed it tremendously!

The opening sequence must be among the best of all SW movies, right up there with ANH's Star Destroyer chasing the Tantive IV. The soundtrack is amazing.
It's great how quickly Anakin's more mature character and personality (after years of brutal war) are established: how he deeply cares for his troops and how respectful he is of Obi Wan's leadership. As the rescue of the Chancellor unfolds, Obi Wan and Anakin's friendship and closeness are beautifully written and delivered. When Anakin asks "and the next step?" you can tell he already knows the answer, and Obi Wan dutifully (and playfully) obliges with "spring the trap". That's great writing. The little scene in the elevator about not picking on R2 is also fantastically acted, there's true chemistry between the two.
Of course, there's also silly bits, like R2's encounter with the droids, which is just that - silly.

The lightsaber fights are great, and how quickly and easily Anakin's care for Palpatine is established is also worth noting. No exposition is necessary, you understand immediately through their interaction, a few lines and their acting, that Anakin feels really close to the Chancellor.

And as the movie moves forward, every little thing falls into place beautifully.
Anakin's mounting frustration (goaded by Palpatine), the Jedi Council's mishandling of the entire situation and their mistrust of the Chancellor's true motives play out smoothly. There are some amazing scenes, like Anakin's heartfelt apology to Obi Wan, Palpatine's speech about Darth Plagueis, Anakin and Palpatine's confrontation, Mace Windu's warning to Anakin to not go with them to face the Chancellor... all are relatively short scenes, but they simply work!
Also, the little interactions between Obi Wan and his troops are perfectly written to show the true camaraderie between them, which makes the betrayal of Order 66 so much more heartbreaking.
There's just so much great stuff in that movie.

Oh well, fangasm over.

I'm ready for my punishment now. :lol

I agree with everything you said. I actually love ROTS. It's the only prequel I will watch. The dialogue was much better (not perfect, but c'mon no Star Wars movie is without a few cringe moments), the acting was much improved and the film displayed actual stakes. It's like Lucas finally got around to wanting to tell a good story and was concerned about showing actual relationships between the main actors through dialogue and acting, not just exposition.

I acknowledge that TPM and AOTC happened and the events are back story for me. That doesn't mean I have to watch them. I would rather read the novelizations of them. At least then I don't have to be subjected to the terrible acting/writing of the films themselves. ROTS is what I begin my SW with for viewing.

Speaking of the novelizations, ROTS is an amazing novelization. Anakin's turn to Vader is made completely believable and heart breaking. Strongly recommend it.
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

You know, I've never been a fan of novelizations, but I might give this one a read.

It's worth a read. Another great scene is the duel between Obi-Wan, Anakin & Dooku while rescuing Palpatine. It is so much better than what we got onscreen and longer. It has a lot of inner dialogue with Dooku about what's happening. That chapter/scene alone is worth reading.

Just like in AOTC when Anakin is slaughtering the Tusken Raider village. It goes into great detail about what he actually does and again is much longer. Would've made the movie so much darker if we got that version.
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

It's worth a read. Another great scene is the duel between Obi-Wan, Anakin & Dooku while rescuing Palpatine. It is so much better than what we got onscreen and longer. It has a lot of inner dialogue with Dooku about what's happening. That chapter/scene alone is worth reading.
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That part made me feel bad for Dooku. Realizing he was played by his master only to help him begin a war he was never meant to win, and his fate would only serve to help his master obtain the real apprentice he desired. It was kind of heartbreaking. I liked Dooku and his realization was such a sad end for a cool character.



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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I've always liked the prequels in many ways. And since TLJ released, I appreciate them a whole lot more.
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Rots is my fav Star Wars movie. Absolutely love it. Could care less if it has some bad bits in it. And Star Wars fans seem to like it aswell. I mean those who aren’t really hardcore fans. It’s just a really good movie to me
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I greatly enjoyed the ROTS novelization & it’s lead-in novel, Labyrinth if Evil.
 
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