Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

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Would've had to move up the solitary Luke/Leia scene in that case.
It actually would have been really cool if Luke had shown up on the ship after everybody else had left, when only Leia was there, to have that scene. Perhaps he could have been with her when she went to hyperspace. Confusing people all the more when he then appears on Crayt.

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It's not his character, he's a voice actor Of MANY SW characters.. And this was a live action movie, not an animated cartoon. He has nothing to do with the movies. He didn't care Ackbar was killed, it was how.

And his opinion is shared by the majority of fans, even those that liked TLJ.

I guess you find it quite ok that Ackbar's death was a side bar so they could focus on the nobility within women with Purple Hair?

Yea , who cares.......

Its a fictional side character.



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It actually would have been really cool if Luke had shown up on the ship after everybody else had left, when only Leia was there, to have that scene. Perhaps he could have been with her when she went to hyperspace. Confusing people all the more when he then appears on Crayt.

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Man I don’t know that seems tacky and maybe even comical are you saying that Luke should’ve been standing next to his Jedi powered sister who can fly in space and as she’s about to hit Snoke’s ship Luke just vanishes lol and leaves her alone....that’s ****ed up :lol

I like the idea of her making it into IX and Ackbar getting a great honorable death but NOOOOO

Carrie has to snort cocaine on a plane and Ackbar has to get shafted lol
 
Holdo’s suicide scene was epic already BUT had it been Ackbar it would’ve surpassed epic and been an instantaneously iconic scene in the entire saga!

It is hands down my biggest gripe with TLJ not Luke throwing the saber or the FO questionable military tactics or Canto Bite (my ***).

It was Ackbar not being given the dignity and character respect on what would’ve easily been one of the best deaths in cinematic history boy did Rian drop the ball on that one big time.

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TLJ Supporter




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It actually would have been really cool if Luke had shown up on the ship after everybody else had left, when only Leia was there, to have that scene. Perhaps he could have been with her when she went to hyperspace.

And then as the ship begins to enter hyperspace Leia and Luke hug each other and squeeze the controls and she says "You always were an ***hole brother," lol.

:D

Actually now that I think of it even Holdo's death would been cooler if the FO had launched a boarding party and FO stormtroopers burst through the door of the bridge right as she went to lightspeed. Would have been a great "oh f----" moment for the troopers.
 
Man I don’t know that seems tacky and maybe even comical are you saying that Luke should’ve been standing next to his Jedi powered sister who can fly in space and as she’s about to hit Snoke’s ship Luke just vanishes lol and leaves her alone....that’s ****ed up [emoji38]

I like the idea of her making it into IX and Ackbar getting a great honorable death but NOOOOO

Carrie has to snort cocaine on a plane and Ackbar has to get shafted lol
It seemed a bit more poignant/powerful in my head.

you wouldn't have actually seen him vanish.
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It is hands down my biggest gripe with TLJ not Luke throwing the saber or the FO questionable military tactics or Canto Bite (my ***).

It was Ackbar not being given the dignity and character respect on what would’ve easily been one of the best deaths in cinematic history boy did Rian drop the ball on that one big time.

For me, there's no bigger sin in TLJ than Canto Bight. Nothing even comes remotely close. I still haven't found one single redemptive thing about it. Nothing! It was pure garbage. The only saving grace is that it took 11 or 12 minutes of total screen time. Some people try to make it seem like it took half the movie. It didn't; it took less than 12 minutes total! . . . (It only seemed like an hour.) :lol

Would've had to move up the solitary Luke/Leia scene in that case.

Yep. Not only that, there's also no way they would kill both Luke and Leia in the same movie.

The destruction of the bridge/command section of the Raddus, but sparing Leia, was done for a number of reasons. Among them: 1.) to make it seem as though Kylo has some redemptive value by not pulling the trigger, 2.) to provide a reason for somebody new to take command, and 3.) to allow Leia to finally show that she can use the Force (as was always assumed ever since "there is another").

As to point #2 (to address jye's objection about Ackbar): If the bridge was destroyed, logic dictates that Ackbar would be there. No credible way around that. And to RJ, Ackbar's death was as necessary as Leia's coma in order to introduce a new leader (Holdo). Why a *new* leader instead of an established one? Because we were meant to *not trust* her. Whereas, we *would trust* Ackbar. Poe was meant to not trust her. Poe would trust Ackbar. The chess pieces were moved in that bridge scene to construct a path for central plots moving forward. That's just how the storytelling unfolded. It wasn't done arbitrarily and without reason.

As for point #3: If Rian showed Leia using the Force the way a Jedi would typically demonstrate, it might beg the question of why not use the Force herself during these difficult times leading up to TLJ? So, he probably decided to have her demonstrate Force abilities for the *first* time on screen as a sort of survival instinct. Almost as if the panic and urgency of being at the brink of death sparked her Skywalker-inherited Force powers to save her life. I can see why he'd do it that way, but I still think the execution of the Leia Poppins scene was pretty terrible.

IMO, Rian not killing Leia was absolutely the right call. He also put her in a coma for good reason. And I can also see why he had to have Ackbar replaced by a new character who we were supposed to wonder whether she could be trusted or not.

Yea , who cares.......

Its a fictional side character.

For some of us who grew up with ROTJ being a pivotal film, Ackbar was more than a mere side character. More than a meme, or a gif. I can totally understand the objection over Ackbar not being given more of a hero's sendoff (I even share that objection on some level). But yeah, I can see the reasons why RJ did what he did with Ackbar/Holdo.
 
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And then as the ship begins to enter hyperspace Leia and Luke hug each other and squeeze the controls and she says "You always were an ***hole brother," lol.

:D

Actually now that I think of it even Holdo's death would been cooler if the FO had launched a boarding party and FO stormtroopers burst through the door of the bridge right as she went to lightspeed. Would have been a great "oh f----" moment for the troopers.

Didn’t Star Trek III do that or was it undiscovered country I don’t remember
 
Yea , who cares.......

Its a fictional side character.



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Well, they're all fictional characters.

So that's a kind of pointless an odd statement. Why some one chooses to like/latch on to one character over another is their prerogative.

Boba Fett is a side character too. Yet I think fans feel pretty strongly about him. Ackbar has probably just as much, if not more screen time as Boba Fett does in the OT. And was a pretty important character within the Rebels. I'm not even a big Ackbar fan, but the character was **** on.

RJ supposedly was a "Fan" who grew up with SW. Yet he **** on Every OT character. Doesn't really make sense, does it...
 
No one will tell Rey who her parents are. It’s a big secret. I know why.

****SPOILER****






Her parents are Luke and Leia.
 
For me, there's no bigger sin in TLJ than Canto Bight. Nothing even comes remotely close. I still haven't found one single redemptive thing about it. Nothing! It was pure garbage. The only saving grace is that it took 11 or 12 minutes of total screen time. Some people try to make it seem like it took half the movie. It didn't; it took less than 12 minutes total! . . . (It only seemed like an hour.) :lol



Yep. Not only that, there's also no way they would kill both Luke and Leia in the same movie.

The destruction of the bridge/command section of the Raddus, but sparing Leia, was done for a number of reasons. Among them: 1.) to make it seem as though Kylo has some redemptive value by not pulling the trigger, 2.) to provide a reason for somebody new to take command, and 3.) to allow Leia to finally show that she can use the Force (as was always assumed ever since "there is another").

As to point #2 (to address jye's objection about Ackbar): If the bridge was destroyed, logic dictates that Ackbar would be there. No credible way around that. And to RJ, Ackbar's death was as necessary as Leia's coma in order to introduce a new leader (Holdo). Why a *new* leader instead of an established one? Because we were meant to *not trust* her. Whereas, we *would trust* Ackbar. Poe was meant to not trust her. Poe would trust Ackbar. The chess pieces were moved in that bridge scene to construct a path for central plots moving forward. That's just how the storytelling unfolded. It wasn't done arbitrarily and without reason.

As for point #3: If Rian showed Leia using the Force the way a Jedi would typically demonstrate, it might beg the question of why not use the Force herself during these difficult times leading up to TLJ? So, he probably decided to have her demonstrate Force abilities for the *first* time on screen as a sort of survival instinct. Almost as if the panic and urgency of being at the brink of death sparked her Skywalker-inherited Force powers to save her life. I can see why he'd do it that way, but I still think the execution of the Leia Poppins scene was pretty terrible.

IMO, Rian not killing Leia was absolutely the right call. He also put her in a coma for good reason. And I can also see why he had to have Ackbar replaced by a new character who we were supposed to wonder whether she could be trusted or not.



For some of us who grew up with ROTJ being a pivotal film, Ackbar was more than a mere side character. More than a meme, or a gif. I can totally understand the objection over Ackbar not being given more of a hero's sendoff (I even share that objection on some level). But yeah, I can see the reasons why RJ did what he did with Ackbar/Holdo.

I do understand that.....

But you can give every side character people have affection for some glorious purposeful death. That would be crazy and diminish the main characters deaths (from a writing standpoint)

Should we demand that Nein Numb get a shot at owning the Falcon with Chewie?




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I do understand that.....

But you can give every side character people have affection for some glorious purposeful death. That would be crazy and diminish the main characters deaths (from a writing standpoint)

Should we demand that Nein Numb get a shot at owning the Falcon with Chewie?




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Ehhhh.... didn't know he wasn't the voice of Akbar in the movie?

Calm down, keep telling yourself, "it's only a movie".

Sure, Akbar earned the glorious death more than Holdo. But at the Endor the day (that's for you, Difabio) it doesn't really matter. Is all pretend and just actors reading lines. Akbar was a side character, and didn't have a big impact on the whole story. Maybe, just maybe, It was felt that since the role was expanded, it might not work very well to have the characters interacting so much with a Lobster man?

I just find it hard to get so worked up about meaningless stuff like that.


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Yeah, it's only a movie. Specifically a Star Wars movie. You know, "A Long Time Ago in a Galaxy Far Far Away....".

Sci-Fi Fantasy with tons of alien creatures. God forbid they have a major character that's an alien.
 
Yeah, it's only a movie. Specifically a Star Wars movie. You know, "A Long Time Ago in a Galaxy Far Far Away....".

Sci-Fi Fantasy with tons of alien creatures. God forbid they have a major character that's an alien.
If you keep Ackbar practical, I do think it would look very off if he had the scenes Dern had. As great as the FX are, there are certain limitations with some characters. Other than a flapping mouth and moving eyes, I don't think Ackbar has a lot of articulation. And even if they went ahead and created a ultra expressive head, the audience is still gonna laugh at Poe arguing with a fish head. Make it CG, same problem, except now fans will rip it apart like they did CG Yoda.

But I agree with the poster earlier who said that the likely reason had more to do with creating distrust.

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