Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

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She?s a clone made from Luke?s severed hand......and manipulated by Palpatine.

The original story JJ was working on started off with Lukes hand and the lost Saber.....

Well we know the saber was found.....so was his hand.



Sent from the inside of a giant slug in outer space.....

I'm sure we'll get an episode of some Disney series that will explain the story of how the hand and the saber were found, and how they came to be at one with Rey.

It will be Mugdud the Ugnaught, who was heading home in his convertible cloud car when the saber landed in his back seat, along with a still-twitching human hand and the rest is Star Wars history...
 
I always felt it was heavily implied in ROTS - either Sidious or Plagueis.

That?s what I thought snoke was. I thought he was plaguis or whomever and sidious made anakin to become the greatest Sith Lord. But I doubt Disney will fulfill this and allude to something else
 
I apologize, abake; I didn't mean to suggest that the midichlorians thing would be the takeaway from reading the 1981 conversation transcript. I was referring mostly to how Anakin's fall was described. Whenever I reference the story of the PT (ROTS in particular), my biggest objection has always been the way that I feel Anakin's turn was handled horrendously. I've maintained (and always will) that it was flimsily-established, nonsensical, rushed, and just poorly executed technically.

In that 1981 conversation, Lucas outlines how Anakin would've demonstrated erratic behavior over the course of Jedi missions (plural!) across the galaxy, where he even starts killing Jedi who turn their back on him. That type of evolving descent into darkness would make a lot more sense than turning to the dark side "to save his wife" and having his first act (moments after turning) be the slaughter of younglings.

The "save Padme" rationale for why the greatest villain in cinema history turned evil is the single-dumbest thing I've seen in SW. I know that you disagree (strongly), but I'm just telling you what aspect of the 1981 conversation makes people like me yearn for that earlier version instead of what we actually got in the PT.

Also, GL's description of Yoda not being a fighter, and having no chance against someone like Vader, was completely turned on its head in the PT. Had Lucas kept Yoda's characterization the way he described in 1981 (as a guru of the Jedi ways), his exile on Dagobah would not be able to be interpreted as cowardly. I think it would've preserved more integrity for the Yoda character by sticking with the original characterization.

Finally, there's the bit about Leia having her mother around for a couple of years. That would have made her look like less of a senile ***** when she's describing her mom to Luke in ROTJ. GL's prequel story in 1981 was superior (in my opinion only, of course). That was my point.

Ah, I see, understood!
On the subject of Yoda, I do wonder whether at that point in the narrative Lucas was building (post ESB), Yoda would have had a chance against Vader, after all he was pretty tired by then... I don?t think it?s so clear cut that you cannot ?retcon? the meaning to ?in his latter years Yoda didn?t fight, he was a mentor?...
But that?s all just assumption.

Anyway, let?s just hope JJ pulls off a good movie and brings balance back to the Force. It won?t be easy...


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What will The Rise In Skywalker add to the lexicon of Star Wars?

TFA gave us: We're Home

TLJ gave us: Carrie Poppins

TROS...?




Gee, the ST really hasn't given us much, huh?
 
That?s what I thought snoke was. I thought he was plaguis or whomever and sidious made anakin to become the greatest Sith Lord. But I doubt Disney will fulfill this and allude to something else

Me too. In fact I thought that was the only way they could convincingly tie all three trilogies together.
 
They shouldn't bring back Palpatine because it would make the original trilogy's ending pointless. It's bad enough things went horribly wrong for the three heroes of the story, do they have to take away their victory against Palpatine too? And for what, a last minute desperate attempt to save this new trilogy? There was no build up to Palpatine, he just shows up in the third film for no reason. What about Snoke? He was the new big bad guy.
 
But Snoke sucked. He was a Force vampire from across time.

Besides, I'm so sick of Andy Serkis I could scream...




















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But Snoke sucked.

Maybe, we'll never know because he's ******* dead....well, no one is ever really gone, so I guess he too can come back in the final film of the next trilogy. Still, at least he was the main antagonist of the first two films, so ideally there would have been some kind of payoff in the third film. Imagine Thanos getting killed in the beginning of EG, and the final battle is led by the random return of Obadiah Stane / Iron Monger. :lol Hell, even that would make more sense, since Iron Man would be taking him down again, not some random chick we met 4 years ago.
 
Who is Star Wars worst villain of the OT/PT?

Dooku? Grievous? Sebulba?

Snoke makes them all look good. With his fancy robe and gold slippers and his cracked face... he was the kind of villain a 3rd grader would come up with. It's diabolical how un-creative the Disney team is. Disney -- the one-time fantasy experts. I don't know who to blame -- Disney as a whole, Kathleen or JJ. I mean, Snoke? Even the name isn't Star Warsian.

At least Disney and KK gave us Rogue One and Solo... but JJ. He got handed Star Wars -- STAR WARS -- and this was the best he could do.

He should have to walk naked through Galaxy's Edge. Shame.... Shame....
 
Through a mythical character called Plagueis that we've never seen? That would unify the 3 trilogies?

No.... just bring the old Big Bad back. Palpatine.


If Palpatine was outsmarted by his old master, who gained his revenge through Anakin and eventually took over as Snoke, I'd buy that.
 
If Palpatine was outsmarted by his old master, who gained his revenge through Anakin and eventually took over as Snoke, I'd buy that.

But how was he outsmarted? Plagueis fakes his death for what, 40+ years... only to come back with the ashes of the Empire? Shouldn't Plagueis have let Palps become Emperor, then kill him and take the throne at the height of Imperial Power?
 
Snoke... Smoke... smoke and mirrors... Snoke was Palpatine all along! :thud:

Kylo is going to finish what Vader started... destroying Palpatine! :panic:
 
Who is Star Wars worst villain of the OT/PT?

Dooku? Grievous? Sebulba?

Snoke makes them all look good. With his fancy robe and gold slippers and his cracked face... he was the kind of villain a 3rd grader would come up with. It's diabolical how un-creative the Disney team is. Disney -- the one-time fantasy experts. I don't know who to blame -- Disney as a whole, Kathleen or JJ. I mean, Snoke? Even the name isn't Star Warsian.

Everything in the new trilogy is a lame lesser version of previous SW films. That's pretty much a given, but at least finish the cluster **** story that started in TFA. I mean, at no point during or after TFA or TLJ are we lead to believe there is some connection to Palpatine. Not even in the ROTSW trailer, until his random laugh is heard at the end. After 2 full movies, probably some books and "canon" comic books, Palpatine just shows up as a last minute replacement. Even the Rey and Finn relationship went nowhere because Snoke **** blocked it with his teenage apprentice who needed to finish his training from... Snoke, not Palpatine.
 
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