Star Wars: The Force Awakens (12/18/15)

[lerath666]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

I would remove the Cathar.

interesting choice. Any particular reason why? We've already got dog-people ( Bothans) so why not Cat people?

Not arguing, simply currious.

 

[K07]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

I'd get rid of "Dark Empire." I don't like the idea of Luke falling to the Darkside after his triumph over the Emperor's temptations in RotJ. From the film team's POV, I would get rid of the overall NJO and post-NJO stories. Resurrect Chewie and leave the galaxy pretty much intact.

I'd personally keep "Dark Forces/Jedi Knight." It's my overall favorite EU story out there. But will it have any impact on the new movies? No, so from the film's POV I'd keep the Thrawn Trilogy. That laid the foundation of the EU's galaxy and could be used in the sequel trilogy.

 

[lerath666]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

I'd get rid of "Dark Empire." I don't like the idea of Luke falling to the Darkside after his triumph over the Emperor's temptations in RotJ. From the film team's POV, I would get rid of the overall NJO and post-NJO stories. Resurrect Chewie and leave the galaxy pretty much intact.

I'd personally keep "Dark Forces/Jedi Knight." It's my overall favorite EU story out there. But will it have any impact on the new movies? No, so from the film's POV I'd keep the Thrawn Trilogy. That laid the foundation of the EU's galaxy and could be used in the sequel trilogy.

One or the other. And only ONE part of the NJO and onward. Either the new jedi order series ( The Vong war), or the Darth Caidus Story ( Second galactic Civil war), or the Return of the Sith? The Rise of Abbeloth? The Dark nest Trilogy? Choose one. which do you feel fits the series the least, or that you simply dislike the most.

Also, ousting the vong War wouldn't reserect Chewbacca, as several other stories have han as a darker character BECUASE of Chewie's death. So Chewie would STILL need to have died during a planetary evacuation while trying to save lives. So would you rather Remove his death?

It's amazingly difficult to choose, isn't it?

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

interesting choice. Any particular reason why? We've already got dog-people ( Bothans) so why not Cat people?

Not arguing, simply currious.

Huh, didn't know Bothans were based on dogs. I wouldn't have guessed that by looking at them.

I hadn't heard of these "Cathar" until Bioware added them in TOR.

They just seem like a very cheap creation to cater to the current Internet/lolcat fad. Add the fact that they're essentially humans with cat faces plastered on.

 

[greygoose]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

The old farts must've said we're front and center or we're out.

So we can expect two and a half hours of 'I'm too old for this....' jokes in the new film.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

Haven't read enough EU to know what I'd remove. I'd rather excise the prequels from official canon.

I've read the EU.

Excise the EU and the PT.

 

[TURINS~BANE]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

So we can expect two and a half hours of 'I'm too old for this....' jokes in the new film.

hope not..

 

[Pixelpiper]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

I'd eliminate the prequel trilogy and the entire expanded universe. Basically keep only the three original movies and start the rest from scratch. Do 7 to 9 and then 1-3 immediately following.

I should have reloaded the page before posting.

Excise the EU and the PT.

Yes. This.

 

[ProgMatinee]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

Read that both Jesse Plemons and Michael Jordan (not that one) are up for roles in SW. I REALLY like both of these guys as actors from the FNL days. Michael B Jordan has the looks to be lead role for sure. Not to be harsh to Jesse, but the kid doesn't fit the looks of what you'd expect as a lead SW character. If they can get him to play an alien type...I think he'd kill it. He's likable yet not overly cute boy band material. He has the acting chops to pull off a good side character...but I can't see him playing Luke's son and winning over the general public.

Not that the general public is what I judge success by, but it would be pretty cool to have the parts line up to where this was a phenomena again.

 

[lerath666]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

Huh, didn't know Bothans were based on dogs. I wouldn't have guessed that by looking at them.

I hadn't heard of these "Cathar" until Bioware added them in TOR.

They just seem like a very cheap creation to cater to the current Internet/lolcat fad. Add the fact that they're essentially humans with cat faces plastered on.

that's more the Cheap way that they were made for the game. Cathar have been around since the old Dark Horse Comics Tales of the jedi Series in the late 80's early 90's. Though, originaly they were more Thunder Catish.

Here is a Bothan.

 

[Sachiel]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

Bothan spy... you'll neveeeeer see them coming.

 

[fosing]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

what does the Bothan say?

 

[joda76]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

With this news from Disney makes me think we will see some EU stuff in ep 7. I'd like to see Ben Skywalker in it. Maybe Luke lost his wife in between 6 and 7. It could be Mara but doesn't have to. I don't know just some thoughts.


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[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

that's more the Cheap way that they were made for the game. Cathar have been around since the old Dark Horse Comics Tales of the jedi Series in the late 80's early 90's. Though, originaly they were more Thunder Catish.

https://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090616044207/starwars/images/2/2c/Legacy_25_Rasi_Tuum.jpg

Well that certainly looks better than the crap in TOR.

 

[TURINS~BANE]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

cant wait for first pics...

 

[lerath666]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

Well that certainly looks better than the crap in TOR.

Yeah, Bioware, and in some cases OBsidian ent/ Black Isle has had a real problem with continuity stuff, and making sure things look how they are intended to look in their Star Wars Games, and in some cases with their Dungeons and dragons games. They seems to often " phone it in" on imagry sometimes.

In KOTOR II, for example, you work with the Mandolorians untill you can secure use of their Basalisk War droid to get back to Whereever you needed to go.
1) Basalisk's don't have hyperdrives. So this is kinda dumb, but whatever.

This is what they show you in the game.

Hey... wait a second...that looks familior.

Yup, that's not a Basalisk, it's Prince Xixor's one man fighter, the Virago, from shadows of teh empire.

A Basalisk, is a Droid MOUNT. they're not enclosed. The Pilot must wear a vac-suit, if they are going to ride it down from orbit as a dropship. Which they are capable of doing.

the Moral is, don't trust Bioware or BLack Isle/ Obsidian when it comes to getting Lore, or the look of things correct.

 

[greygoose]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

cant wait for first pics...

Same here...

 

[lerath666]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

I'm actualy tempted to try to AVOID everything untill we have a official poster and trailer. Preserve the shock and awe moments as long as possible.

 

[K07]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

I can't choose just one EU to keep. I can just think of one to destroy. Dark Empire. Or rather, the main story plot of Luke falling to the Darkside. I don't recall anything else happening but that's the biggest gripe I ever had when reading EU things. But you tasked us with getting rid of ONE thing as if we were on that committee. It would likely have to be Chewie's death. I don't think you can get rid of NJO without getting rid of everything that followed. The NJO changed the galaxy, characters, and history of the lore too much that anything coming after it would have been influenced by it. I personally would choose NOT to get rid of it but wouldn't take the time to explain Chewie's death or anything.

Off topic of retconning EU, I have said it before but am saying it again. Am I the only one that really wants Wedge Antilles in this? The guy was in all three OT movies and played a huge part in the EU. It'd be great to see him on screen again in or out of the cockpit.

 

[lerath666]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

I'd Be down with More General Antillies.

As for the NJO, you COULD remove it, as yes, it DOES change the characters, and the galaxy, but it's LARGELY ignored in the books that follow, save the odd bit of info. The conflict is what drove Jacen solo to go on a jedi equivilant of a australian Walkabout. BUT that could have just as eisly happened in some other war with severe brutality. the walkabout is what leads jacen to his vision quest, his vision quest is what shows him the Coming darkness, and pushed him to start making choices that led him to rely to heavily on his flow-walking to see the future. And this leads him to become Darth Caidus.

Jacen Solo Becoming Darth Caidus, and the Second Galactic Civil war is what shapes the EU Post NJO more than anything else.


Also, the most recent Novel, Crucible?
Just finished it. it's ending is about as PERFECT as possible a way to go out on the EU novels, and a pretty solid lead in as possible to new films.
Luke, Han and Leia decide they need to step back, take some time for themselves, and leave teh galaxy in the hands of the next generation. that they've spent their entire lives fighting, and that they've earned a well deserved rest.