Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Dec 15th, 2017)

[jye4ever]

Spoiler

Spectacular lol

 

[Neal136]

Spoiler

That's awesome!

 

[crows]

You gotta wonder if the people who signed think these will actually work.

No, It was nothing but nice wood to the fire.

Im personally finished with talking about the movie once i read that jye let his kid watch jumanji but looking back at the thread those petitions made me laugh again.

They were created and signed to add to the crap posting on the internet.
And gullible websites reported them as legit... i mean look at the porghub one...

 

[Khev]

I love how people say the all-time box office list "doesn't count" because there are "crappy" movies on the list but then trumpet low numbers in China or Ecuador as "proof" that the film was a disaster, lol.

Outgrossing The Dark Knight's lifetime earnings: Doesn't matter
Being outgrossed by a rom-com on one weekend in China: THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS

 

[a-dev]

Honestly nothing bores me more than Box Office discussion. So....stop that altogether lads.

 

[Sassafras]

DiFabio it would actually hurt the worst to learn that you preordered your ticket for opening night before even Wor-Gar lol

Please don’t do that to me. [/QUOTE

I've been told (because I pretty much roll w. the WTF and gaping hole moments of TLJ) that I'm part of the problem (and I probably got off lightly at that.)

So to add insult to the injury did a double shot this weekend with I, Tonya (deserves every good thing being said about it IMO kudos to every actor including Margot Robie OMG and Sebastian Stan OMG - theater almost completely full) and off to a ~1/3 full theater to see TLJ again.

Second time around even better, tho will say think I was too much in shock over the Mary Poppins moment the first time. The second time it was really unbearably stupid IMO. I couldn't get Drax bubble suit out of my head....

So, yeah, for me there still are the same annoying holes; like Rey is all po'd at Kylo but the *feels* are arisin' and then she decides - because that's what you do when you're attracted to a bad boy - throw herself down a hole where it looks like an amusement park and then we're back where Rey has been handed a towel by Kylo and *feels* but then Dad busts in and ruins things which is what parents do.

(And why does Snope, who apparently valued Kylo in TFA, spend this whole movie ******* on him? How come Luke doesn't just sense that Han is dead? How come the ability to sense people and events just comes and goes?)

But, I enjoyed the stuff I liked even more the second time around. Interesting interactions between Luke and Rey, Kylo and Rey. I like the porgs and the crystal foxes. And I really loved the last stand off between Kylo and Luke - epic shots, the AT-ATs in the backround - Adam Driver can REALLY wear a cloak - the reds and white - Luke. At the last interchange between Luke and Kylo, the audience burst into applause.

Also there were plenty of laughs.



And I'll enjoy owning TLJ on Blu-Ray.

 

[Neal136]

How come Luke doesn't just sense that Han is dead? How come the ability to sense people and events just comes and goes?)

Remember that, at this point in the film, Luke had closed himself off from the Force. With that being the case, he wouldn't have sensed Han's death.

 

[Sassafras]

Remember that, at this point in the film, Luke had closed himself off from the Force. With that being the case, he wouldn't have sensed Han's death.[/QUOTE

Thank you! True - seeing it a second time I was able to pay more attention to what I thought were some more complex details (that actually fill in some things that bothered my at my first viewing). But I forgot that Luke had blocked himself off that way.

One thing thing that struck me the second time - for me anyway, you really do have to pay attention to what the characters are saying. Which I wasn't able to do the first time around. Glad I finally got to see it again, and in home viewing I'll miss seeing some of the epic shots in IMAX. Plus little details like at one point I saw some sort of spiky sea creature surface and dive in the background around the island, or a porg setting up a nest in the Falcon.

 

[Khev]

Honestly nothing bores me more than Box Office discussion since there's no disputing that TLJ is kicking ass at the box office despite the claim that half the entire audience hated it. So....stop that altogether lads.

As you wish.

 

[teemu]

I love how people say the all-time box office list "doesn't count" because there are "crappy" movies on the list but then trumpet low numbers in China or Ecuador as "proof" that the film was a disaster, lol.

Outgrossing The Dark Knight's lifetime earnings: Doesn't matter
Being outgrossed by a rom-com on one weekend in China: THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS

No,It doesn't matter....movie theatres don't give refunds if you don't like a movie.If that happened,there wouldn't be an episode 9 for sure.

 

[a-dev]

As you wish.

 

[Khev]

No,It doesn't matter....movie theatres don't give refunds if you don't like a movie.If that happened,there wouldn't be an episode 9 for sure.

Movies don't get to $600+ million domestic because of "one and done" viewings.

 

[Khev]

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[teemu]

Movies don't get to $600+ million domestic because of "one and done" viewings.

I don't know anybody (besides a chat forum) who wanted to see Episode 8 again....that money was made because of the name STARWARS,not because it was good.Same goes with Transformers

 

[Khev]

I don't know anybody (besides a chat forum) who wanted to see Episode 8 again....

Well it doesn't really matter who you know now does it since a film's financial success is never measured by individual anecdotal statements cited on toy forums, only the earnings themselves.

 

[loki2371]

Yep you guys are all right Box Office totals mean nothing... Especially as to whether or not fans liked a film.

I'm not listing the totals (google it yourselves), but according to Box office Mojo ;

The most hated (or 2nd to ASM2) Spider-Man movie, Raimi's Spider-Man 3 is still the highest grossing movie of all 3 series, including fan favorites Spider-Man 2 & the MCU Spider-Man Homecoming.

Of the 3 Nolan Batman Films, the most hated, The Dark Knight Rises, is the highest grossing of the 3..

So see, the worst movies in a series can still make the most money worldwide, regardless of how they are ranked or liked by the fans.

Both sides on here are guilty of trying to use numbers to support their claims whether TLJ was good or sucked. No one is gonna win. These movies create fan anticipation, along with the media and marketing campaigns. If it's a popular series, it'll aways make bank. We all need to come back in 2 years when Ep9 comes out and see how that fares and if TLJ truly did any damage to the SW franchise...

In the meantime, lets keep having fun, cause the TLJ is just a bad MOVIE...

 

[Khev]

Yep you guys are all right Box Office totals mean nothing...

With regard to "proof" that a film is good OR bad that is correct, box office earnings don't do that. They can only speak to whether a film found an audience and if said audience recommended it to their friends or kept coming back for more. The "best" film of 2017 (BR 2049) obviously did not find an audience while TLJ certainly did.

All I know is that if I hated TLJ I wouldn't keep posting stats about this or that weekend drop or this or that country's earnings. Because those stats are all overshadowed by the $200 million weekend, $600+ projected domestic, and $1.2-1.3 billion worldwide. And those numbers prove that at least financially, it was an unqualified success. Do all studios always wish for a little more? Sure. I'm sure Disney wished that TFA hit a billion domestic or 3 billion worldwide. But not exceeding such thresholds does not equate to failure or embarrassment. Not by a longshot.

 

[loki2371]

And just to add Avatar is the #1 all time highest grossing movie (unadjusted for inflation of course) because it brought to the screen a new technology never seen before. The advent of "good" 3D... The story was subpar at best. I know many people who aren't even scifi fans who went to see it because of how amazing the 3D looked and how believable the CGI characters were. Plus between Imax and 3D showings charging more, and being the more popular viewing choices in larger theaters, this also skues box office totals. Even adjusted for inflation, the totals are still misleading because of the premium price those viewers paid to see the movie in said Imax & 3D.

What should have been done, back when tracking started, was count the number of tickets sold, seats taken. That would be a more definitive number than $$...

 

[Darth Madden]

Honestly nothing bores me more than Box Office discussion. So....stop that altogether lads.

No kidding. People talk like its supposed to mean something. They talk like they have some stake in it (actually I own Disney stock so I guess I DO have a stake in it in a way) and I couldn't care less about foreign gross or how far its dropped money wise in a week.

Avatar #1 in money = Total garbage of a movie. End of story.

I liked TLJ and I will buy it on Blu-Ray and enjoy it again and again.

 

[loki2371]

With regard to "proof" that a film is good OR bad that is correct, box office earnings don't do that. They can only speak to whether a film found an audience and if said audience recommended it to their friends or kept coming back for more. The "best" film of 2017 (BR 2049) obviously did not find an audience while TLJ certainly did.

All I know is that if I hated TLJ I wouldn't keep posting stats about this or that weekend drop or this or that country's earnings. Because those stats are all overshadowed by the $200 million weekend, $600+ projected domestic, and $1.2-1.3 billion worldwide. And those numbers prove that at least financially, it was an unqualified success. Do all studios always wish for a little more? Sure. I'm sure Disney wished that TFA hit a billion domestic or 3 billion worldwide. But not exceeding such thresholds does not equate to failure or embarrassment. Not by a longshot.

... Your still posting numbers!!! ..... ...