The Amazing Spider-Man - OPEN SPOILERS NOW

[YoNoSe]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waW1m_qm6y0



They cut it out, but the fact they even did it is a mystery to me. It's not funny, not creepy...just lame.

I guess I was wrong about this movie. It actually could have been worse.

 

[The Iron Koob]

Just watched it. Pretty good flick. I still think Raimi's 1 and 2 are still better for me, but overall I liked it. I liked Garfield was a good Spider-Man for sure. Suit was also better than I expected so I enjoyed that.

The one thing lacking in my mind was the script to be honest. I wasn't as drawn into the characters as I was with the Raimi movies and they didn't spend enough time developing the story, they just kind of jumped to quick conclusions. I thought a few scenes needed to be fleshed out a bit more.

7 out of 10 for me

This is a very fair review. I asked my friend why he hadn't seen it. He said it looked "like twilight but with spider-man." He's absolutely right and I'm kind of ashamed I hadn't realized it before.

 

[Viking Spawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waW1m_qm6y0



They cut it out, but the fact they even did it is a mystery to me. It's not funny, not creepy...just lame.

I can easily see why.

 

[Khev]

He said it looked "like twilight but with spider-man." He's absolutely right and I'm kind of ashamed I hadn't realized it before.

"You're impossibly fast and you walk on walls..."

"SAY it."

"Spider..."

 

[ironwez20]

"Are you afraid?"

"No"

"You should be Becuase your like my own personal brand of heroin or some dumb **** like that. Now behold my silky suit it is the suit of a killer Gwen a monster".

" it's beautiful "

Also Spider-Man was referenced in twilight lol.

 

[K07]

"You're impossibly fast and you walk on walls..."

"SAY it."

"Spider..."

I don't know if I should laugh at that or be ashamed I picked up the reference

 

[DGTWoodward]

I don't know if I should laugh at that or be ashamed I picked up the reference

Glad that I did not!

 

[Khev]

Re: Spider-Man: The Reboot!

Here is the thing. Reboots are supposed to "cleanse the pallet" right? Let's look at Keaton's Batman franchise, he instituted a dark overall feel, a troubled almost jaded Bruce Wayne, a Gotham that was corrupt and that was run by the mob and it all had a very Gothic feel to it. His sequel then continues Bruce's issues but removes the mob as if Joker's death eliminated it and continues corruption but on an individual level. He definitely with this film allowed more of his styling to be seen with Penguin's design even the character of Max Shrek. Then Schumacher takes over and keeps Wayne troubled, but removes darkness by adding comedy. The cops make jokes, the villains make jokes, Two-Face wears outlandish bright suits, their henchmen easily identified, their schemes more grandose. A connection is there but loose. Then with Batman and Robin comes in and you see Schumacher really let loose. While there were gothic statues in Forever in B&R every ____ing building looks as if it were held up by some statue like a city filled with Atlas guiding its inhabitants. Everyone knows Batman, he isn't a myth, the characters become more cartoony, he has a ____ing credit card. No one is complaining that after all of that you needed to reboot to cleanse because Nolan's world would seem ironically way out of place against the Gothic backdrop of the first two of the cartoony one of the last.

So let's look at Raimi. They've made changes, organic web-shooters so you eliminate much of Parker's scientific prowless as well as a well used story element of Pete having to work so he could pay for supplies to fight crime. Pete remains very geeky after high school, another change from the books where by the time he was in College he had a good group of friends supporting characters and had come into his own still caring for his Aunt May but still very much a young adult with issues and problems facing him other than just villainy.

You had the combination of characters, Mary Jane was almost every female in Spidey from Liz Allen to Gwen Stacy to glimpses of Mary Jane herself who strangely enough doesn't have the sultry sassy Mary Jane complex who likes to ____ with Pete's head but dates Harry and is a pain in his ass as much as an object of desire. Yet there isn't anything to play off of. Gwen begins to hate Spider-Man because Doc Ock kills her father by accident and she blames him. While they had that relationship in their with Pete and Harry and that was in the books it was never more taxing on Peter than having the woman he loved hating who he was and that is just one example.

You have Spider-Man who was so secretive of who he was to protect those he loved that he even left the Baxter Building once with a bag over his head, suddenly take of his mask or get damaged enough to always see his face, hell a car full of Subway passengers has seen his face.

You have a continual ____ing with canon. Spidey loses his powers but almost a year's worth of dealing with it and regaining in the books is smashed into 5 minutes and we smile, why? Spider-Man 2 was a good movie overall so we forgive. If Spider-Man 3 was we'd be forgiving as well. You have Mary Jane living next door where he could pine over her for years instead of being Anna Watson's niece who comes in and knocks him for a loop from the get go. Mary Jane is a loser, Pete is a loser, hell even Harry is one. The whole crew gets to be a group of misfits put together trying to make their way even down to the mopey Aunt May. One of the big ones is first the crook kills Ben, then he doesn't. Then it was Sandman, yes in Burtonesque form the main villain suddenly gets tied back to the hero's past only for them to meet again, I expected Church to say "Have you ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight?"

The biggest? You had a ____ing Spider-Man day. A celebration where Spidey swings in and gives a Public Photo-op complete with saving a damsel in distress and having everyone love him. One of the funner things in the books is that Spider-Man is hated. He laments how people love Iron Man, love Captain America, love The Avengers but thanks to his own Negative Press Representative in J. Jonah Jameson, people still hate and fear him, they think he is a crook. That is a common point of comedy that he has to change people's perceptions one save at a time. Don't get me started on the lack of humor that comes out of Spidey's mouth, where was my wisecracking web-slinger who even in getting his ass kicked still cracked a joke.

I would say that a cleanse is in order. Why? The next director if continuing would have to continue this trend where Pete is the "why me?" character that is even having troubles in college, while in the books he is so great a Science and loves it so much that he even teaches it for a while. They have to continue the boring Mary Jane characters and their relationship. They'd have to accept Raimi's Spiderverse where people love him despite JJJ and years after high school Pete still can't get his ____ together. Pete had his problems but was never a total ____ing mess where he is eating cake in the room of his landlord's daughter's kitchen instead of blowing off steam by even webslinging, remember that? How Pete sometimes stumbled upon these supervillains while clearing his head and kicked the ____ out of them because of something else going on in his life? Almost every dealing with The Rhino was like this. The next director to continue his universe couldn't radically change this because it'd be amazingly noticable.

Did Raimi's films have merit? Of course, Spider-Man 2 was the bar held for Comic Book movies until TDK. I loved how the characters no matter how cartoony were being pushed to be grounded in reality. How the suit looked so close to the comics compared to the conceptuals it could have been. I liked the inclusion of Curt Connors although now it was just a cocktease and I was dying for more inclusions of side characters instead of eliminations. Flash Thompson anyone? Raimi films were good for what they were. He took a boring Tobey Maguire who had no real charisma up there and a trainwreck of Dunst and made them characters you at least rooted for. He made the amazing miscasting of James Franco work even though that wasn't the Harry we knew or expected.

They weren't perfect. They do not deserve to be immortalized as untouched. Donner's Superman films weren't perfect but they were good they are what you remember but the character shouldn't be off limits all of a sudden. Singer's X-Men weren't perfect even Nolan's Batman films aren't perfect but at least they are keeping the characters in the public consciousness. Just like there are still Burton Batman fans or Reeve Superman fans despite what goes on they'll always be Tobey Spidey fans but let them cleanse the pallet and give us hopefully something closer to the books (which would cause them to go back to High School), something fresh and original and something for new fans to follow. If they can't it'll be schumachered and then we'll see another in a few years but at least we'll see it.

Just necro-quoting a post from almost three years ago. Yeah, Raimi's Spider-Man was messed up in many significant ways. We let it go because the first two movies were quite decent in spite of that. But if you look at the series as a true trilogy then good lord Raimi screwed up Uncle Ben's death a million times more than Webb could ever dream.

ASM 2 and 3 of course could be even worse, time will tell, but for now they at least have a nice starting point to make a very superior franchise.

 

[OSCORP]

Yup! Very good start like i've stated.


The rest is up to them!

 

[thenammagazine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waW1m_qm6y0

They cut it out, but the fact they even did it is a mystery to me. It's not funny, not creepy...just lame.

Just goes to show you the mindset they had when making ASM.

"You're impossibly fast and you walk on walls..."

"SAY it."

"Spider..."

"Are you afraid?"

"No"

"You should be Becuase your like my own personal brand of heroin or some dumb **** like that. Now behold my silky suit it is the suit of a killer Gwen a monster".

" it's beautiful "

Also Spider-Man was referenced in twilight lol.

Proof of gayness?

I don't know if I should laugh at that or be ashamed I picked up the reference

Be very ashamed.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Re: Spider-Man: The Reboot!

Just necro-quoting a post from almost three years ago. Yeah, Raimi's Spider-Man was messed up in many significant ways. We let it go because the first two movies were quite decent in spite of that. But if you look at the series as a true trilogy then good lord Raimi screwed up Uncle Ben's death a million times more than Webb could ever dream.

ASM 2 and 3 of course could be even worse, time will tell, but for now they at least have a nice starting point to make a very superior franchise.

That was a grat post by 'The Mike'. ASM was needed to reinvigorate the characters.

 

[Chapter 2099]

Re: Spider-Man: The Reboot!

Just necro-quoting a post from almost three years ago. Yeah, Raimi's Spider-Man was messed up in many significant ways. We let it go because the first two movies were quite decent in spite of that. But if you look at the series as a true trilogy then good lord Raimi screwed up Uncle Ben's death a million times more than Webb could ever dream.

ASM 2 and 3 of course could be even worse, time will tell, but for now they at least have a nice starting point to make a very superior franchise.

That was one thing I didn't care for when it came to the previous trilogy. I didn't mind the emphasis placed on his death in SM, but by the third installment, Uncle Ben's death should have been memory, reminder, and nothing more. There was NO need to create a story that held Flint Marko responsible, rewriting an entire series of events leading to his death.

 

[CelticPredator]

Raimi's films changed everything. Without them, you wouldn't have this boring ass mess of a film. So be happy comictards.

 

[Chapter 2099]

Raimi's films changed everything. Without them, you wouldn't have this boring ass mess of a film. So be happy comictards.

Don't get me wrong. I liked Raimi's films.

But I'm not coming from a 'true to the comics' standpoint. I'm simply speaking from a 'how many times are you going to rewrite and reenact Uncle Ben's death over the span of three movies' standpoint.

 

[CelticPredator]

I responding to the Mike's old post, which made me shake my head.

 

[Chapter 2099]

I responding to the Mike's old post, which made me shake my head.

Oh.

I'm not too bothered by changing some of the stuff, like from mechanical shooters to organics, etc. I guess what urks me the most is when something deviates from the source material and then falls short, making you wonder what could have been. Raimi did a good job overall. I can't hate on that. Sure. There are things I would have liked to have seen differently, but he gave us a heck of a run. Plus, we now have a new series (Webb's take) on everything, so they'll be something for everyone.

 

[CelticPredator]

Not really. Because with this new glob of fan boys, they'll do whatever they can to **** on the old, just like they did.

And I will not stand for this!

 

[ironwez20]

Not really. Because with this new glob of fan boys, they'll do whatever they can to **** on the old, just like they did.

And I will not stand for this!

lol at this pic. Here Celtic feast your eyes on the old raimi trilolgy through the new fans eyes.

 

[DGTWoodward]

Not really. Because with this new glob of fan boys, they'll do whatever they can to **** on the old, just like they did.

And I will not stand for this!

Why is it assumed that if you liked the new film, that you should automatically hate the Raimi trilogy? I certainly don't hate them. At all.

In fact, seeing Spidey swing through the city to the best of the technology available at the time was excellent! The vast majority of their content was very enjoyable indeed. Some of it was way off, but there you are, and it was mostly in the minority.

 

[ironwez20]

Why is it assumed that if you liked the new film, that you should automatically hate the Raimi trilogy? I certainly don't hate them. At all.

In fact, seeing Spidey swing through the city to the best of the technology available at the time was excellent! The vast majority of their content was very enjoyable indeed. Some of it was way off, but there you are, and it was mostly in the minority.

Cuz celtic wants somthing to whine about. I will always love raimi's version but it was far from perfect and im willing to give this trilogy a chance to becuase thats the spiderman fan in me. Raimi's version is done and over and it had flaws just like this movie. Nobody hates the raimi movies here from what i've seen they criticize but not hate.