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Re: The Avengers: The Motion Picture Discussion Thread

As for some peoples' fears that the movie's scope doesn't look big or "epic" enough... I'm gonna have to say I'm with you until we see differently. Whedon has never done anything even remotely on the scale this should be. Here's to hoping he pulls it off.

Yeah especially now with trailers for huge movies that are coming out AFTER Avengers and are supposedly farther behind in production like The Hobbit, TDKR, and Prometheus that are really swinging for the fences and evoking that in their trailers.

Avengers really needs to step it up, and soon I imagine.
 
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I think the biggest hurdle for this movie is it's already all been seen for the most part. There isn't anything radically different with any of the main characters (looks wise or anything) and one of the four main characters has flopped 2x in a row. The trailers look like clips from the previous movies to me which isn't too exciting. Hoping we see some more stuff that sparks my interest soon.
 
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Think about that for a second. You sure? :lol

It's whatever the wife wants :lol

But i'm not doing anything silly while wearing 3D active eye glasses :nono

Yeah especially now with trailers for huge movies that are coming out AFTER Avengers and are supposedly farther behind in production like The Hobbit, TDKR, and Prometheus that are really swinging for the fences and evoking that in their trailers.

Avengers really needs to step it up, and soon I imagine.

:exactly::lecture:exactly:

3D at home is like crack for me.

:exactly::lecture:exactly:

I think the biggest hurdle for this movie is it's already all been seen for the most part. There isn't anything radically different with any of the main characters (looks wise or anything) and one of the four main characters has flopped 2x in a row. The trailers look like clips from the previous movies to me which isn't too exciting. Hoping we see some more stuff that sparks my interest soon.

Hulk gets no love :lol
 
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I think the biggest hurdle for this movie is it's already all been seen for the most part. There isn't anything radically different with any of the main characters (looks wise or anything) and one of the four main characters has flopped 2x in a row. The trailers look like clips from the previous movies to me which isn't too exciting. Hoping we see some more stuff that sparks my interest soon.

The reason Hulk flopped though is because everybody and their grandmother wants a shot at the origin story. If they'd just continued from Bana's Hulk and done a sequel with Hulk actually smashing ____ like he's infamous for, he would've gotten his comeuppance. Instead Norton wanted to remake the 70's/80's TV show and do yet another origin flick. Marvel needs to just get on with it already and realize it's easy to tell the Hulk's origins in a credits sprawl and get on with the smashing already. Hell, Hulk's right up Michael Bay's alley! :lol
 
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My main concern is that Whedon will find the idea of a cooperative superhero team dramatically boring, and he will force the film to center around the clash of wills and internal strife within the Avengers instead of unity and teamwork and camaraderie. I want to see these guys fight the bad guys, not each other.
 
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My main concern is that Whedon will find the idea of a cooperative superhero team dramatically boring, and he will force the film to center around the clash of wills and internal strife within the Avengers instead of unity and teamwork and camaraderie. I want to see these guys fight the bad guys, not each other.

I imagine it'll be a bit of both, with them dealing with their inability to function as a group and getting their asses handed to them in the first act, the internal strife being dealt with and overcome in the second act and them rising to the occasion with their new found cohesiveness for the third.
 
Re: The Avengers: The Motion Picture Discussion Thread

My main concern is that Whedon will find the idea of a cooperative superhero team dramatically boring, and he will force the film to center around the clash of wills and internal strife within the Avengers instead of unity and teamwork and camaraderie. I want to see these guys fight the bad guys, not each other.

It will probably be the former then the latter.
 
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The reason Hulk flopped though is because everybody and their grandmother wants a shot at the origin story. If they'd just continued from Bana's Hulk and done a sequel with Hulk actually smashing ____ like he's infamous for, he would've gotten his comeuppance. Instead Norton wanted to remake the 70's/80's TV show and do yet another origin flick. Marvel needs to just get on with it already and realize it's easy to tell the Hulk's origins in a credits sprawl and get on with the smashing already. Hell, Hulk's right up Michael Bay's alley! :lol

I get what you're saying and pretty much agree with it (Fincher said his Spidey movie the origin would've been in the opening credits if he had directed instead of Raimi, but I am content with what Raimi did in Spidey 1 and 2, but now we're going back to an origin movie again with ASM :gah:).

But TIH only did the origin stuff in the opening credits and started the movie with him as the Hulk already.

I just want Marvel to move past Banner fighting the Hulk and make movies with him embracing what he is and being a hero for it.

That's how TIH ended, he was now in control of it.

I think that's where it's heading with the Avengers.

But man was TIH a CGI mess at the end, and also kind of boring, but overall better than the first Hulk movie.
 
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I get what you're saying and pretty much agree with it (Fincher said his Spidey movie the origin would've been in the opening credits if he had directed instead of Raimi, but I am content with what Raimi did in Spidey 1 and 2, but now we're going back to an origin movie again with ASM :gah:).

But TIH only did the origin stuff in the opening credits and started the movie with him as the Hulk already.

I just want Marvel to move past Banner fighting becomming the Hulk and make movies with him embracing what he is and being a hero for it.

That's how TIH ended, he was now in control of it.

I think that's where it's heading with the Avengers.

But man was TIH a CGI mess at the end, and also kind of boring, but overall better than the first Hulk movie.

:exactly: It wasn't really an origin's story. Good point about the being in control part leading into the Avengers.
 
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I imagine it'll be a bit of both, with them dealing with their inability to function as a group and getting their asses handed to them in the first act, the internal strife being dealt with and overcome in the second act and them rising to the occasion with their new found cohesiveness for the third.

:exactly::exactly:
 
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I get what you're saying and pretty much agree with it (Fincher said his Spidey movie the origin would've been in the opening credits if he had directed instead of Raimi).

But TIH only did the origin stuff in the opening credits and started the movie with him as the Hulk already.

I just want Marvel to move past Banner fighting becomming the Hulk and make movies with him embracing what he is and being a hero for it.

That's how TIH ended, he was now in control of it.

I think that's where it's heading with the Avengers.

But man was TIH a CGI mess at the end, and also kind of boring, but overall better than the first Hulk movie.

You're right, but it still felt like an origin flick with most of the movie centered around him as banner trying to stop the hulk while being chased by General Ross, with Betty and the Abomination running interference. It's like making another Superman movie with Lex as the bad guy. We've seen this already. It should've been the other way around with Hulk and The Abomination as the main story, with Ross and Betty running interference in the back ground. Hell, the movie would've been 100% better if the main story had been Hulk and Abomination duking it out across a huge city, with the rest of the "drama" thrown in as flashbacks. :lol
 
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You're right, but it still felt like an origin flick with most of the movie centered around him as banner trying to stop the hulk while being chased by General Ross, with Betty and the Abomination running interference. It's like making another Superman movie with Lex as the bad guy. We've seen this already. It should've been the other way around with Hulk and The Abomination as the main story, with Ross and Betty running interference in the back ground. Hell, the movie would've been 100% better if the main story had been Hulk and Abomination duking it out across a huge city, with the rest of the "drama" thrown in as flashbacks. :lol

Ohhhhh....yeah, that actually sounds like a better movie already with that description.

Now that's really think out of the geek box there Nam. :clap

Damn it, now I don't want to watch it anymore :lol
 
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I want to see these guys fight the bad guys, not each other.

There's a time honored tradition of having superheros fight in their first appearances with each other. Spiderman fought the Fantastic Four, Iron-Man fought Captain America, Captain Marvel Fought Superman when he moved from Fawcett to DC...

It looks in the trailer like Thor and Cap get down. Hopefully it's a decent fight.
 
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There's a time honored tradition of having superheros fight in their first appearances with each other. Spiderman fought the Fantastic Four, Iron-Man fought Captain America, Captain Marvel Fought Superman when he moved from Fawcett to DC...

It looks in the trailer like Thor and Cap get down. Hopefully it's a decent fight.

:lecture:lecture

Fonzi even fought Richie Cunningham in one episode :lecture

The Brady Bunch kids went at each other as well :lecture
 
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