The Avengers: The Motion Picture Discussion Thread- Open SPOILERS -enter at own risk!

[Josette]

Disagree on his thoughts of Hawkeye (though Hawkeye was the one with the least amount of material), and especially Black Widow. "The screenwriter didn't seem to know who she was". That's not the impression I got.

The only criticism he seems to have is that it didn't follow the comic exactly the way he wanted it to.

 

[thenammagazine]

Disagree on his thoughts of Hawkeye (though Hawkeye was the one with the least amount of material), and especially Black Widow. "The screenwriter didn't seem to know who she was". That's not the impression I got.

I think having Hawkeye as a villain for the first part gave him more face-time vs. being lost in the crowd. And for him to think Black Widow was shafted makes me wonder if he was too busy texting notes during her scenes.

While I agree about Ant Man and Wasp, I would've felt little to no attachment to their characters compared to the opposite with everyone else, so I think building them in a solo flick and then adding them into Avengers 2 is a better idea. Especially if Pegg is still attached as Ant Man.

 

[Lord Aykroyd]

Disagree on his thoughts of Hawkeye (though Hawkeye was the one with the least amount of material), and especially Black Widow. "The screenwriter didn't seem to know who she was". That's not the impression I got.

The only criticism he seems to have is that it didn't follow the comic exactly the way he wanted it to.

Love Game of Thrones, but obviously Martin never read the Ultimates.

 

[Darth Cruel]

I think he has too much of a crush on Hawkeye. The review was not objective enough.

 

[Mad Old Lu]

Finally got to my second viewing last night. Picked up on so much stuff I missed the first time. I love the look on Fury's face when Cap pays him the $10.

I'm hoping to get another showing this week....

Thanks for bringing that up. I didn't get that joke.

Anyone care to explain?

 

[IrishJedi]

Thanks for bringing that up. I didn't get that joke.

Anyone care to explain?

Early in the film (when Fury first visits him in the gym) Cap says "I doubt anything will surprise me anymore" and Fury says "10 bucks says you're wrong."

Cut to scene when Cap first boards Hellicarrier and it cloaks. $10 paid in full

That's my favorite thing about Whedon's style... He plants subtle seeds for jokes that you all but forget about until he springs the punch line on you. The Galaga bit was also great.

 

[Kamandi]

Love Game of Thrones, but obviously Martin never read the Ultimates.

Hawkeye was an uber-badass in Ultimates 1 & 2. The story gives the reader reasons to care about the character and ultimately to sympathize with his revenge story arc. Film version doesn't even begin to compare.

The Galaga bit was also great.

Galaga was awesome. Apparently somebody on the heli-carrier bridge is a MAME fan.

 

[karamazov80]

Game of Thrones author reviews Avengers:
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=59964

I don't even need to read it to know his takeaway.

Not enough gratuitous sex and boobies. Also, not enough awesome dwarfs.

 

[Mad Old Lu]

Early in the film (when Fury first visits him in the gym) Cap says "I doubt anything will surprise me anymore" and Fury says "10 bucks says you're wrong."

Cut to scene when Cap first boards Hellicarrier and it cloaks. $10 paid in full

That's my favorite thing about Whedon's style... He plants subtle seeds for jokes that you all but forget about until he springs the punch line on you. The Galaga bit was also great.

I actually remember that! How silly of me to have not put those together! Duh!

 

[IrishJedi]

Game of Thrones author reviews Avengers:
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=59964

He gives Stan Lee all the credit for the original characters. Therefore, he is an ignorant poop head.

 

[plasmid303]

Early in the film (when Fury first visits him in the gym) Cap says "I doubt anything will surprise me anymore" and Fury says "10 bucks says you're wrong."

Cut to scene when Cap first boards Hellicarrier and it cloaks. $10 paid in full

That's my favorite thing about Whedon's style... He plants subtle seeds for jokes that you all but forget about until he springs the punch line on you. The Galaga bit was also great.

He's good at this, also with visual cues that I missed both times when seeing this movie.

Didn't put it together:

 

[Lord Aykroyd]

Hawkeye was an uber-badass in Ultimates 1 & 2. The story gives the reader reasons to care about the character and ultimately to sympathize with his revenge story arc. Film version doesn't even begin to compare.



Galaga was awesome. Apparently somebody on the heli-carrier bridge is a MAME fan.

I agree! I *hope* we'll see the Hawkeye backstory flushed out in a one-off movie (probably with widow).

The important point though was that Hawkeye's and BW's Ultimates versions were COMPLETELY different characters than the 616 versions (Hawkeye in particular). The Avenger's movie used Ultimate HE and BW as its templates, and Martin is reminiscing about the 616 versions.

 

[ZaCHw117]

He's good at this, also with visual cues that I missed both times when seeing this movie.

I read that the whole "shwarama gag" was a last minute throw in from RDJ himself on set that day, he changed it from another line. And then it turned into being the final scene. (after credits).

 

[Khev]

He gives Stan Lee all the credit for the original characters. Therefore, he is an ignorant poop head.

I didn't catch that. It looked like he was just stating that he wished the roster was constructed in the order originally layed out by Stan.

 

[plasmid303]

I read that the whole "shwarama gag" was a last minute throw in from RDJ himself on set that day, he changed it from another line. And then it turned into being the final scene. (after credits).

Yeah, they filmed a lot of other lines for the scene. I hope we get all of 'em in the blu-ray.

 

[intothevoid]

Early in the film (when Fury first visits him in the gym) Cap says "I doubt anything will surprise me anymore" and Fury says "10 bucks says you're wrong."

Cut to scene when Cap first boards Hellicarrier and it cloaks. $10 paid in full

That's my favorite thing about Whedon's style... He plants subtle seeds for jokes that you all but forget about until he springs the punch line on you. The Galaga bit was also great.

He's good at this, also with visual cues that I missed both times when seeing this movie.

Didn't put it together:

I was also confused about the $10 - thanks for that

Didn't notice the shawarma cue either, nice

 

[Lord Aykroyd]

I didn't catch that. It looked like he was just stating that he wished the roster was constructed in the order originally layed out by Stan.

Yup. I do agree with him on one thing though. I love Pym. I really hope they do him justice when he comes on board.

 

[thenammagazine]

I read that the whole "shwarama gag" was a last minute throw in from RDJ himself on set that day, he changed it from another line. And then it turned into being the final scene. (after credits).

That's what we all read. How he had like two words and then through ad-libbing wound up with 6 extra pages of script.

 

[Kamandi]

That explains why the woman is cleaning up at the shwarama deli. She's picking up debris from Tony crashing earlier.

 

[ZaCHw117]

Yeah, they filmed a lot of other lines for the scene. I hope we get all of 'em in the blu-ray.

That's what we all read. How he had like two words and then through ad-libbing wound up with 6 extra pages of script.

Yeah, that's pretty awesome. RDJ is definitely one of my favorite actors today.