thenammagazine
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GrrrrIron man needs to stop being in the front. Cap is the leader
Robert Downy Jr puts more asses in seats than Chris Evans. That is the reason he's where he is on the poster.
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Robert Downy Jr puts more asses in seats than Chris Evans. That is the reason he's where he is on the poster.
Viking Spawn
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They could make the team more equal in appearance. However, I understand that its business and RDJ sells.
thenammagazine
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Given RDJ was essentially one of the main torchbearers for the franchise, I really don't see what the issue is. 
jye4ever
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Given RDJ was essentially one of the main torchbearers for the franchise, I really don't see what the issue is.
Don't go cheap on us now Disney.
Given RDJ was essentially one of the main torchbearers for the franchise, I really don't see what the issue is.
Because it no longer is "his series." He isn't the leader of the Avengers nor the main character of the movie. You can have more than one person be "front and center" on a movie poster. Buddy movies, sci-fi films, and romantic comedies do it all the time. If they wanted RDJ to be the most prominent they still could have done it in a Drew Struzan kind of way that didn't sideline everyone else. As it stands its really quite gratuitous and eye-rolling.
It's just marketing. RDJ is definitely a key draw. Who cares? Cap is rightly revealed as the leader in the film itself.
jye4ever
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And actually I don't agree. Movie posters are a lost art and I'd like them to be cool again. 
thenammagazine
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Essentially.
Whether or not you deem him essential, he was and still is the bigger draw. So much so that if you stripped the series of RDJ, it would have lasting effects that would trickle down to Avengers 2.
I think RDJ was the main character of the movie. The majority of the film didn't focus on him of course, but he seemed to be the most important Avengers member to me for reasons I've blabbed on about before (to my chagrin). And he really is the reason lots of folks care about this franchise at all (my wife was only interested because he was in it). I think it makes sense to put him foremost on the poster, because that reflects the reality of the importance of the character to the film and his importance in the eyes of moviegoers.
I disagree. Cap became the field commander, not the leader of the team, broadly defined. To my eyes, the Avengers still felt like a team without a real leader at all by the time the movie ended, and Cap came off as less capable than Stark overall.
thenammagazine
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I don't even think Cap was necessarily the "field commander" either. I'm not sure if it was the lack of screen time (though that'll be fixed if this "Director's Cut" -in name only - ever sees the light of day), but he really didn't do much as far as leading except for the whole, "you do this, you do that" scene at the end. If anybody was directly in charge, I'd lean more toward Fury since he put everyone in action and set them on the right course. But then again, you have to understand, Khev saw this movie in a bubble and has completely developed his own, unique interpretation of what he saw, than what the rest of us who've had 3+ viewings saw on the screen.
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Robert Downy Jr puts more asses in seats than Chris Evans. That is the reason he's where he is on the poster.
So what. Just because he's not on the front of a poster won't mean people won't see the movie. Here's some reality for you. Halle berry was a bigger name than Hugh Hackman but she wasn't in front of the xmen posters
thenammagazine
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Here's some reality for you, kiddo. X-Men didn't make as much as either of the Iron Mans (which made more than double), nor Avengers which is breaking records as I type this. Your point?
That's what I'm talking about. I wouldn't call Fury the leader, since several of the Avengers were only following him out of necessity, not because they really believed in him and would have followed him under other, less extreme circumstances. But yes, he was the one most responsible for directing the team in this film. Hopefully that will not be the case in the sequel. I really do hope Cap will become solidified as the Avengers' leader then, but I suspect it won't happen since the filmmakers are so overly concerned with showing Stark off as being the most central part of the team in just about every way.
And I don't know if this invalidates my opinion or anything, but I only saw the movie once
thenammagazine
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That's what I'm talking about. I wouldn't call Fury the leader, since several of the Avengers were only following him out of necessity, not because they really believed in him and would have followed him under other, less extreme circumstances. But yes, he was the one most responsible for directing the team in this film. Hopefully that will not be the case in the sequel. I really do hope Cap will become solidified as the Avengers' leader then, but I suspect it won't happen since the filmmakers are so overly concerned with showing Stark off as being the most central part of the team in just about every way.
And I don't know if this invalidates my opinion or anything, but I only saw the movie once
I don't think Evans has the box office pull RDJ has. So you might be right about Stark being front and center (at least until he walks). I'd like to see Cap in more of a leadership role, but not until they develop him a bit further. While I enjoyed Captain America, I thought he was completely "meh" in Avengers. Hoping Cap 2 fixes that.
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Here's some reality for you, kiddo. X-Men didn't make as much as either of the Iron Mans (which made more than double), nor Avengers which is breaking records as I type this. Your point?
Your point is ? It was the first movie in the the trilogy
Dr Daystrom
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Yes, but Wolverine has a bigger following than Storm.
In the case of The Avengers, character popularity wise, Cap and Iron Man could be considered more or less on a par with comic fans, but one of them just happens to be played by a popular actor with big name recognition to the public at large. No surprise he goes front and center in promotional materials.
Personally I'm just grateful we're sitting here a month and a half after the release debating which character should have gotten more glory from the triumph of the Avengers release, rather than "What happened? How could they mess up the whole thing"?
thenammagazine
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My point is, given the box office take of the previous 2 Iron Man films, if you have RDJ in an Avengers movie, given his international appeal (and also his successful run as Sherlock Holmes), you put him front and center on the movie poster. Your point, which was likely to just troll me since it failed, was that X-Men had a dramatic actress (with Catwoman on her resume) and put her in the background banking on an unknown actor as one of the top 5 most famous comic book characters front and center on the poster for an action movie. If you think they'd have sold as many tickets marketing Berry as Storm vs. Jackman as Wolverine, might I suggest a basic course on marketing or advertising/promotions so you can get a clue?
Edit: Actually, better yet. I know you're still chaffed about getting PWND in the Spider-Man thread, but given this is an entirely different thread completely removed from that subject matter and that discussion was done days ago, have a good cry and get over it.
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No doubt about that in my mind. I think Evans is a good Cap, and does the character justice (which matters to me personally) but RDJ's Stark/Iron Man has had an impact on folks the way few movie comic characters have before IMO.
Yeah, some of those core components of the comic version of Cap have been only touched on in the films. The guy Thor was talking about when he said he would follow Cap into the gates of Hell (or Hel if we're talking Thor) isn't the guy we've seen on the screen yet. I'm gonna hope for the best with Cap 2, but I just can't get too enthused based on the kind of team they seem to be putting together at the moment.
Cap really is a great character that I think could find a lot of support with movie-going audiences, but RDJ will probably always have more charisma, charm, and draw than Evans.
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