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[pins79]

Two words: market saturation.

They risk overproducing for the sake of maximizing immediate profits. In the long run that model will not sustain. One of the main reasons Sideshow is popular is because how their items are actually collectible as proven by ebay. Sure those sculpts sure are pretty amazing, but you would not see this fast increase in popularity without the aftermarket prices telling you is okay to buy a $400 statue without the ability to get your money back and more. You don't quit collecting legos, action figures, mini-busts or whatever to dive head first into something that will lose you money. I don't care how pretty it looks on your shelf.

Sideshow uses the excuse that the hobby has grown and their user base has expanded. Sure, that's certainly the case and a true statement. However, they still need to keep some kind of control on the core of what your business is: collectible items. The open edition discussions pop up in just about every thread. A lot of it has to do with budgetting and planning to be able to bring these pieces home. A lot of the complaining is from people that want to support Sideshow and not just bash it. The limited pieces get priority over open ES. That's just common sense to avoid paying more later. That's basic economics/budgetting but the way Sideshow is acting is like it's a free for all and we may even trick you and turn it into open ES when you are not looking. Buy it if you like it. Edition sizes be damn. Collectibility be damn. True fans don't hesitate.

That's the name of the game now.

I understand that Sideshow is a company and want to maximize profits. Okay fine. Overcharge a bit and increase the ES for popular characters like Batman, Superman, and Hulk. But don't get greedy and think you can abandon what you're company represents: a collectibles market. Open ES? Come on! When you oversaturate the market with product and lose the intrinsic value of what a collectible is, you will falter. Your collector customer base will stop buying. These are, after all, just big cool statues. They're not a necessity. And certainly, they're not worth $600 without the inherent factor of being a limited edition collectible. Whether that mean 1000 or 2000. So long as there is an ES.

And another thing: what is up with first saying a statue is limited (Galactus) and then making it open ES?! WTF. Have some integrity.

 

[Josh-A-Tron]

True Hulk's fan do not care about open edition size, solid or hollow and price. Just bring it.

Sorry man, I love the Hulk, and I thought about buying him, but there is no way I'm paying $650 for him when he's probably the same size and weight as Skaar.

 

[gagaliya]

Sorry man, I love the Hulk, and I thought about buying him, but there is no way I'm paying $650 for him when he's probably the same size and weight as Skaar.

it's hulk, legacy sculpt....

 

[Josh-A-Tron]

it's hulk, legacy sculpt....

Yeah, so I should pay a $279 difference?

 

[Arctic Beast]

Sorry man, I love the Hulk, and I thought about buying him, but there is no way I'm paying $650 for him when he's probably the same size and weight as Skaar.

it's hulk, legacy sculpt....

What does legacy sculpt indicate? Also I agree with Josh for that price I am out. To bad looks great but I would rather use that kind of money and go after an older piece I want like a Spidey comiquette of the Thor PF.

 

[Custo]

Yeah, so I should pay a $279 difference?

Yes, yes you should

 

[Kain's Ancient Blade]

Yeah, so I should pay a $279 difference?

I agree. I don't understand why having Legacy attached to it should increase the price of it. Skaar is an awesome, way more complicated, massive piece. Yet it's nearly $300 less.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

I agree. I don't understand why having Legacy attached to it should increase the price of it. Skaar is an awesome, way more complicated, massive piece. Yet it's nearly $300 less.

legacy is a big name FX studio

 

[Mamba]

I understand that Sideshow is a company and want to maximize profits. Okay fine. Overcharge a bit and increase the ES for popular characters like Batman, Superman, and Hulk. But don't get greedy and think you can abandon what you're company represents: a collectibles market. Open ES? Come on! When you oversaturate the market with product and lose the intrinsic value of what a collectible is, you will falter. Your collector customer base will stop buying. These are, after all, just big cool statues. They're not a necessity. And certainly, they're not worth $600 without the inherent factor of being a limited edition collectible. Whether that mean 1000 or 2000. So long as there is an ES.

And another thing: what is up with first saying a statue is limited (Galactus) and then making it open ES?! WTF. Have some integrity.

And btw it's not just galactus they also did the same thing with Dark Rider of Mordor PF (regular version), that one even worse because they changed it to open ES after a few months

So what makes anyone think they would not do the same with this one? Collectors who are not active in this forum could be deceived thinking it is a closed ES when they ordered it and gladly to pay the NRD but later on they'll find out there is no number on the base because sideshow changed it to open ES. How could anybody here like that kind of practice?

 

[Shai]

Thats why Greatwall said TRUE HULK fans...we dont care about prices or ES or resale value... Only poseurs care about such things.

 

[Awesome]

Thats why Greatwall said TRUE HULK fans...we dont care about prices or ES or resale value... Only poseurs care about such things.

That is such a ridiculous thing to say.

 

[ShawnDeath]

Thats why Greatwall said TRUE HULK fans...we dont care about prices or ES or resale value... Only poseurs care about such things.

I just checked Sideshow's website and it still says Sideshow "Collectibles" at the top. You can be a fan of the character but don't be a blind one. Only a fool would throw money at a "collectible" and have no interest in it maintaining or increasing in value. To claim some kind of righteousness in not caring in such things because you truely love the character is akin to slapping "hit me again" on your back.

Wanting a "collectible" to have value doesn't make you a poseur, it makes you intelligent.

 

[Awesome]

I just checked Sideshow's website and it still says Sideshow "Collectibles" at the top. You can be a fan of the character but don't be a blind one. Only a fool would throw money at a "collectible" and have no interest in it maintaining or increasing in value. To claim some kind of righteousness in not caring in such things because you truely love the character is akin to slapping "hit me again" on your back.

Wanting a "collectible" to have value doesn't make you a poseur, it makes you intelligent.

Perfect post.

 

[MasterSafara]

He's really passionate about his Hulks. Can't argue that.

 

[traylorc]

I understand that Sideshow is a company and want to maximize profits. Okay fine. Overcharge a bit and increase the ES for popular characters like Batman, Superman, and Hulk. But don't get greedy and think you can abandon what you're company represents: a collectibles market. Open ES? Come on! When you oversaturate the market with product and lose the intrinsic value of what a collectible is, you will falter. Your collector customer base will stop buying. These are, after all, just big cool statues. They're not a necessity. And certainly, they're not worth $600 without the inherent factor of being a limited edition collectible. Whether that mean 1000 or 2000. So long as there is an ES.

And another thing: what is up with first saying a statue is limited (Galactus) and then making it open ES?! WTF. Have some integrity.

If Sideshow does over saturate the market, are folks really going to stop buying??

Will collectors really go "cold turkey" and stop buying statues? Or is your belief that collectors will simply stop buying from Sideshow and buy from someone else?

You mentioned that these are "just big cool statues they are not a necessity". I don't disagree with you, but let's be honest, folks kept buying those big cool statues throughout the worst economic period since the Great Depression. Even though the economy is not projected to get better anytime soon, we still have folks willing to spend their disposable income on collectibles. If this recession does not deter folks from buying from SS, I don't know if utilizing an open ES strategy will. Perhaps increased utilization of an open edition strategy will mean the die hard collectors make less purchases, the question is can those loss revenues be recouped by sales to casual/average fans.

I do agree with you that offering a piece under a limited release and then switching to open ES leaves a bad taste in the consumer's mouth.

 

[Mamba]

I just checked Sideshow's website and it still says Sideshow "Collectibles" at the top. You can be a fan of the character but don't be a blind one. Only a fool would throw money at a "collectible" and have no interest in it maintaining or increasing in value. To claim some kind of righteousness in not caring in such things because you truely love the character is akin to slapping "hit me again" on your back.

Wanting a "collectible" to have value doesn't make you a poseur, it makes you intelligent.

 

[joeprox]

I buy some and sold some. Some of them i make a good profit, and some of them i loose money or just got my money back, that is how it is. BUT it is nice to know that your collection on the long run the value is gone up. This hulk on the other hand i like it and i will buy it regardless ES is more cheaper than the Hulk PF but don't get me wrong PF is better BUT can't spend 2K for it. I saw this and galactus on SDCC and i love it.

 

[pins79]

If Sideshow does over saturate the market, are folks really going to stop buying??

Will collectors really go "cold turkey" and stop buying statues? Or is your belief that collectors will simply stop buying from Sideshow and buy from someone else?

You mentioned that these are "just big cool statues they are not a necessity". I don't disagree with you, but let's be honest, folks kept buying those big cool statues throughout the worst economic period since the Great Depression. Even though the economy is not projected to get better anytime soon, we still have folks willing to spend their disposable income on collectibles. If this recession does not deter folks from buying from SS, I don't know if utilizing an open ES strategy will. Perhaps increased utilization of an open edition strategy will mean the die hard collectors make less purchases, the question is can those loss revenues be recouped by sales to casual/average fans.

I do agree with you that offering a piece under a limited release and then switching to open ES leaves a bad taste in the consumer's mouth.

Based on the overwhelming dissent on these boards towards Sideshow's open ES ventures, I can imagine many collectors would either stop purchasing open ES statues, become more selective of which statues are purchased, or stop purchasing statues from SS all together. Either way people would alter their buying behavior. I would certainly become much more selective, and quite possibly stop buying all together. I can put my money towards my other hobbies that are a little more gratifying in that I can actually use the collectible and not just display it (ie pinball machines, guns, knives, etc).

Would the casual buyer offset this potential drop-off in revenue? Not sure, but I would think that the casual buyer won't be paying $650 too often for non-collectible statues. Again, what makes these statues warrant these prices is largely due to their collectible limited value. If you take that away, they won't be commanding these prices.

I agree with you. People will still be buying collectibles in economic downturns. I do. But I would certainly think twice about which "collectibles" I'd be putting my money into.

 

[MasterSafara]

I understand that Sideshow is a company and want to maximize profits. Okay fine. Overcharge a bit and increase the ES for popular characters like Batman, Superman, and Hulk. But don't get greedy and think you can abandon what you're company represents: a collectibles market. Open ES? Come on! When you oversaturate the market with product and lose the intrinsic value of what a collectible is, you will falter. Your collector customer base will stop buying. These are, after all, just big cool statues. They're not a necessity. And certainly, they're not worth $600 without the inherent factor of being a limited edition collectible. Whether that mean 1000 or 2000. So long as there is an ES.

And another thing: what is up with first saying a statue is limited (Galactus) and then making it open ES?! WTF. Have some integrity.

That's what makes it fun IMO the fact that collectibles are limited and rare. Not everybody is going to get one. It feels good to have a rare piece that's sought after but if it's available to everyone it loses it's appeal and certainly IMO isn't worth $600 as this one is for example.

 

[Josh-A-Tron]

That is such a ridiculous thing to say.

I just checked Sideshow's website and it still says Sideshow "Collectibles" at the top. You can be a fan of the character but don't be a blind one. Only a fool would throw money at a "collectible" and have no interest in it maintaining or increasing in value. To claim some kind of righteousness in not caring in such things because you truely love the character is akin to slapping "hit me again" on your back.

Wanting a "collectible" to have value doesn't make you a poseur, it makes you intelligent.

You guys don't come here often do you? Shai is the biggest Hulk troll there is. If he hadn't said something ridiculous I'd have been insulted.