The Official "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey" movie thread *SPOILERS*

[The Josh]

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I'm with ya I'm not gonna complain. There was nothing really in part 1 that makes me think it was a bad idea.

Edit: Besides it was fun typing that response out and let me go a bit geek for a second.

 

[Snadinator]

Re: The Official "The Hobbit" movie thread *SPOILERS*

It would have been terrible to be honest. People would have felt nothing for any of the characters. Maybe some for Bilbo, Gandalf, and Thorin but the rest of them they would've cared less for the rest than they did after part 1. Tolkien doesn't give a lot of info on the rest of the Dwarves and everything would have been so smushed together. The Hobbit to be properly fleshed out needed at least two movies and then adding the material to tie both stories together makes 3.

Now, I know as Zach said the 3 The Lord of the Rings books each only got one movie. The thing is Jackson actually cut as much out as he added. In FOTR you lost the barrow downs and Tom Bombadil (thank goodness), Frodo/Sam don't meet the Wood Elves for as long of a time, farmer maggots farm, and that allowed him to move Boromir's death from the start of The Two Towers to the end of The Fellowship of the Ring (made more sense to do that). The Lord of the Rings is compressed but to be honest while every part reading is fun (even Tom Bombadil) some of it would have made for not so great movie stuff. Also, in The Return of the King the Battle of Pelennor Fields doesn't get a lot nor does the Battle of Helm's Deep but the movie gives you more time there. In the end what Jackson is doing makes sense at least to me as someone who has read all the books numerous times.

I would have digged the Barrow Downs portion. What the public missed was that the daggers Merry, Pippin, Sam and Frodo found there (which the film replaces with Aragorn providing them to the hobbits) were enchanted for killing Wraiths. Left there long ago by the Numenor in their battle against Angmar and the Witch King. When Merry stabbed the Witch King of Angmar, he dispelled all his protective enchantments, allowing Eowen to land a killing blow. It gives a sense that a higher power (Eru Illuvatar) has orchestrated events to assist the free peoples.

I'm also of the opinion that Tom Bombadil was a manifestation of Eru Illuvatar. But yes, Tom would have been ridiculously difficult to bring to the big screen.

 

[ZaCHw117]

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I'm looking forward to the next two, hoping the pacing issues I had with the first will be diminished.

 

[pixletwin]

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I miss Hobbit in 5. That is all.

 

[The Josh]

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I would have digged the Barrow Downs portion. What the public missed was that the daggers Merry, Pippin, Sam and Frodo found there (which the film replaces with Aragorn providing them to the hobbits) were enchanted for killing Wraiths. Left there long ago by the Numenor in their battle against Angmar and the Witch King. When Merry stabbed the Witch King of Angmar, he dispelled all his protective enchantments, allowing Eowen to land a killing blow. It gives a sense that a higher power (Eru Illuvatar) has orchestrated events to assist the free peoples.

I'm also of the opinion that Tom Bombadil was a manifestation of Eru Illuvatar. But yes, Tom would have been ridiculously difficult to bring to the big screen.

The Barro Downs would have been cool. You'd have to do something different since Tom B wasn't in the movie. They corrected the dagger part with the gifts from Galadriel.

I'm looking forward to the next two, hoping the pacing issues I had with the first will be diminished.

I think the next two will have a bit more action/quicker movments than the first that are looking for it. I didn't think the first movie was long enough. Can't wait for the 3 Hour EE.

 

[The Josh]

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I miss Hobbit in 5. That is all.

Me 2

 

[NAZGUL-KING]

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Yeah, I can't wait for the EE either. I'm still hoping they do the boxed sets with mini Weta pieces. Here's what I would like to see included:

- An Unexpected Journey - Dol Guldur, Erebor or even a Mini Rivendell.

- Desolation Of Smaug - Smaug lying on the Dwarven gold.

- There And Back Again - Beorn in bear form or maybe an Eagle

 

[The Josh]

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Haven't even thought about the other two but I'd like to see the Goblin scribe or maybe a Sting, Glamdring, Orcrist set.

 

[Adolfo]

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Haven't even thought about the other two but I'd like to see the Goblin scribe or maybe a Sting, Glamdring, Orcrist set.

1/6 scale please

 

[The Josh]

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I'm thinking the same size as the Sting Weta magnet.

 

[316what]

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I'm with ya I'm not gonna complain. There was nothing really in part 1 that makes me think it was a bad idea.

Edit: Besides it was fun typing that response out and let me go a bit geek for a second.

A second? Josh, don't sell yourself short.

 

[The Josh]

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A second? Josh, don't sell yourself short.

Alright two seconds.

 

[The Ween]

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Each LOTR book was made into one movie. . . . and they were longer. . .

Yes, and they weren't written the same way! If The Hobbit was written like the LotR books, it probably wouldn't been at least twice as long.

 

[Darth Snoopy]

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Me wants it!

Buy it!

Very nice! Great art book and a second part coming out in the spring.

Second part?

It is awesome!
I got it from my wife for Christmas!!! Really beautiful stuff! !

Nice! I can't wait to get my mitts on it!

 

[ZaCHw117]

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Yes, and they weren't written the same way! If The Hobbit was written like the LotR books, it probably wouldn't been at least twice as long.

Sorry Ween, but I just don't understand.

 

[The Josh]

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Second part?

Yeah, there is a thread in the Middle-earth section. It's comes out in April.

 

[Darth Snoopy]

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Yeah, there is a thread in the Middle-earth section. It's comes out in April.

Right on!

I know what to ask for before my birthday!

 

[The Josh]

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Sweet! That will make for a good present. I'm hoping Weta will do a signed version as well.

 

[The Ween]

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Sorry Ween, but I just don't understand.

Josh said it better than me anyway. It really just boils down to details. There aren't many in The Hobbit.

Read the part about the battle with Smaug, then when the movie comes out and you see what Jackson has done with it, you'll understand better.

 

[Fritz]

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Some people make me laugh. The Hobbit is a cash grab or too long because it was one book made into three movies with a total running time of let's say nine hours. I haven't heard anyone or any critics complain that Game of Thrones is a cash grab or too long. Guess what, the first season was based on one book and when you combine the episodes had a running time of about nine hours. What's the difference other than one is a TV series while the other is movie.

Hey haters, go **** yourselves.