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A person who is not wearing a seatbelt becomes a projectile that can wound other people.

Seatbelt laws are good.
 

Though I agree with you, there have been many cases of the seat belt not only doing harm, but causing the person's death. Also, there are cases where the seat belt may have been on when the accident occurs, but comes loose or off because of the accident. Who's to say? Insurance companies will then refuse to pay because the seat belt "wasn't on."

There's talk now of forcing adults to wear bicycle helmets. What next? Knee and elbow pads?



Issues with seatbelts are generally rare. The issues you raise are likely due to seatbelt misuse or failure. You are far, far safer wearing a seatbelt than not.

And only in a few states is failure to be belted a mitigating factor in damages.

Your larger issue of mandating safety vs personal freedom loses traction for me when the injured party then turns to the govt for care (which happens a TON). At that point taxpayers are paying for his/her poor safety decisions. And we dont have the stomach as a society to simply allow injured people to suffer and/or die.

:lol :lol ween got LEARNED
 
Airbags just help keep the steering wheel from going through your chest and reduce injuries. And obviously not all cars have them.
 
Speaking of traffic issues...

Dear cyclists who ride in traffic: I hate you, and I don't care if you get run over. It's Darwinian.

Thought experiment: Why can't cyclists ride their bikes on the sidewalk? Why is it illegal for cyclists to ride on the sidewalk, but not illegal for them to ride in traffic? Any answer you come up with will be absurd.
 
Airbags don’t keep you from bouncing around the inside of your car. Nor do they keep you from being ejected out of a window or an open door.

Though I'm not against them, they can be dangerous at times for short people and children.
 
There's a thing in vehicle accident reconstruction called trip speed- it's where the car's forward momentum is so great that when the wheels get turned sideways (instead of straight ahead) the car will flip, usually more than once.

When the car is flipping the centrifugal force will pull you toward the outside of the circle of motion, like clothes on a spin cycle. If you're not secure inside the vehicle, the spinning force (that's pulling you outside) will throw you out of a window. Sometimes the window doesn't have to be open. You are then considered "ejected" from the vehicle.

It happens all the time. I've had some experience dealing with this kind of stuff. Lots of seminars.
 
Though I'm not against them, they can be dangerous at times for short people and children.

Only if they're not properly fitted though. Shorter adults (below 150cm) should consider a booster seat if the car seat cannot be adequately adjusted to the seatbelt. Not sure about the US but in Oz kids have to ride in a harnessed booster suit 'til they're tall/heavy enough to sit in a regular seat.

I need to see that happen to believe it

:lol Really?
 
I need to see that happen to believe it


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One of my friends older brothers was driving home from his mothers house with his family. He wasn’t belted in and his daughter and everyone else was. He nodded off and rolled their car. He broke his sons jaw and hit his daughter on his way out the rear window, killing her.

If you have to see it before you believe it, you might just be an idiot.

(Not saying you are, but well....)
 
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Only if they're not properly fitted though. Shorter adults (below 150cm) should consider a booster seat if the car seat cannot be adequately adjusted to the seatbelt. Not sure about the US but in Oz kids have to ride in a harnessed booster suit 'til they're tall/heavy enough to sit in a regular seat.



:lol Really?

(As long as we're keeping it going...)

The issue of children and vehicle restraint is it's own cottage industry. There's something called the "led box defense". Often you see injury to a child in a car seat in an accident. The claim is that the car seat is defective- had the seat worked as intended, the child would not be injured.

The counter argument is that the force of the accident was so great that nothing would have prevented injury short of placing the child in "led box"- the car seat is not intended and was not designed to protect the child in all circumstances of impact. What if the car was struck by a tank- should the car seat protect against that? How about an 18 wheeler at 80 mph. At some point there is nothing that can protect the vehicle occupants.
 
One of my friends older brothers was driving home from his mothers house with his family. He wasn’t belted in and his daughter and everyone else was. He nodded off and rolled their car. He broke his sons jaw and hit his daughter on his way out the rear window, killing her.

If you have to see it before you believe it, you might just be an idiot.

(Not saying you are, but well....)

I meant someone flying out and hitting someone on the sidewalk, and was making a joke. I understand what a seatbelt does


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