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a case of an ungrateful refugee. even Switzerland is in the shats with their asylum seekers. dealing with horndog refugee. lolz
 
Maj. Nidal Hassan, before murdering 13 unarmed individuals and injuring 32 others at Fort Hood in Kileen, Texas, had significant email correspondence with al Qaeda recruiter Anwar al-Awlaki. He did not become a member, but was deeply concerned with how he should cope with being a member of the U.S. military and a Muslim. His actions were classified as workplace violence, based on the rationale that a lone individual committing acts of terror in the name of an ideology is not a terrorist. Or maybe it was because they decided he was crazy. Who knows.

And now, I'll stop.
 
Interesting point. Perhaps ideological motives are precisely what should determine 'terrorism', crazy or not.
 
I think what is most important in making the determination is understanding what terrorism is. It's a military tactic, employed by a weaker antagonist against a stronger opponent. The goal is to inspire fear as a means of gaining the advantage. A common ideology (organized or not) makes it difficult to claim a meaningful distinction between one who acts out of mental distress, and another who acts out of principled conviction.
 
That guy and the lady are annoying as ****. It's obvious that they just did it for the attention, and to piss people off around Christmas. But, since they're embroiled in a legal troubles with the township, and have the news covering them, I guess their plan must have worked :dunno.
 
I personally believe he should be allowed to keep it. Ain't hurting a thing. If it was a regular Christmas scene, no one would've said a word.

This guy does a haunted house about 8 miles from me. He's all about Halloween.
 
The normal nativity scene offends me but I'm not raising hell trying to get people to take them down. People need to stay out of other people's business and stop being so sensitive. Plus, being offended shouldn't mean you get to stop another person from doing or saying something if it's not hurting anyone.
 
That guy and the lady are annoying as ****. It's obvious that they just did it for the attention, and to piss people off around Christmas. But, since they're embroiled in a legal troubles with the township, and have the news covering them, I guess their plan must have worked :dunno.

All Christmas decorations are done for attention. :dunno

The township people are just stick in the muds.
 
I don't know if it's still that way, but in Cincinnati a few years ago, you couldn't even have garage sales or kids couldn't have basketball hoops in their driveways because "it's unattractive".
 
I'm betting if this were a regular display that nothing would've been said:

Officials order Ohio man to take down zombie Nativity scene - Yahoo News

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/zombie-nativity-scene-2015

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But there're no laws against crass or tasteless :dunno

...it might've spurred the complaint, but it wasn't required to be removed on that basis. It took up too much space was the reason given.
 
But there're no laws against crass or tasteless :dunno

...it might've spurred the complaint, but it wasn't required to be removed on that basis. It took up too much space was the reason given.

Most of us would be in trouble then. :lol
 
But there're no laws against crass or tasteless :dunno


Just because one can do a thing doesn't mean one should do that thing.

The displayers failed the basic civility test of common sense and decency, they sought to mock and nothing else.
 
Just because one can do a thing doesn't mean one should do that thing.

The displayers failed the basic civility test of common sense and decency, they sought to mock and nothing else.

The display is not my cup of tea, but living in a free country means that sometimes, somebody, somewhere, is bound to be offended.

I'm fine with the display having to be removed because it contravened council by-laws, but I would not be fine with it being removed simply because someone didn't like it. In a free country people are free to offend, and equally, people are free to ignore what they are offended by.

Most of us would be in trouble then. :lol

:lol :exactly:
 
I wonder if the displayers would be so bold when Ramadan rolls around and test the patience of devout Muslims with an offensive (or any) depiction of Muhammad.

I won't hold my breath.
 
I agree with Spartan Rex on this. Christianity gets vilified in the most horrible ways possible, and even with that display that depicts Christ as a zombie; which is something that goes very much against the reason for why he was born in the first place. It was in extremely poor taste to display something like that, right around the time when Christians celebrate Christmas as a religious holiday. Did they really not expect any kind of backlash from it? :lol

It's fine if someone's not religious - that's their choice, and I completely respect that. We live in a free society. But, just because someone has the freedom to exercise their Fist Amendment right, shouldn't give them a free pass to be an ass about it. There are things like common decency and having respect for your fellow man that everyone should take into consideration, before doing something extremely controversial that may offend someone else.
 
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I wonder if the displayers would be so bold when Ramadan rolls around and test the patience of devout Muslims with an offensive (or any) depiction of Muhammad.

I won't hold my breath.

I'm glad that Christian leaders and adherents aren't given to dispense death threats and the like simply because they've been offended. Blasphemy is an offence only in the most archaic and backward of cultures and societies.

I agree with Spartan Rex on this. Christianity gets vilified in the most horrible ways possible, and even with that display that depicts Christ as a zombie; which is something that goes very much against the reason for why he was born in the first place. It was in extremely poor taste to display something like that, right around the time when Christians celebrate Christmas as a religious holiday. Did they really not expect any kind of backlash from it? :lol

It's fine if someone's not religious - that's their choice, and I completely respect that. We live in a free society. But, just because someone has the freedom to exercise their Fist Amendment right, shouldn't give them a free pass to be an ass about it. There are things like common decency and having respect for your fellow man that everyone should take into consideration, before doing something extremely controversial that may offend someone else.

Either the First Amendment protects acts such as this or it doesn't. I personally don't like the display. I would have no interest in seeing it and I would not want my children to see it. But its a big leap to say that just because I don't like it then it ought to be removed.
 
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