Coheteboy
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It really is sad that TPM is 6th on the ranking because it's so much better than people give it credit for. It's a film that after repeat viewings should clear away most of the negative thoughts that cloud your mind from reading all the hate.
TPM is the prequel that has the most fun being a Star wars movie. Yes, it's an introduction, but what's wrong with that? It's a complete film. It has a GREAT score by John Williams, fantastic designs by Doug Chiang (i felt the designs suffered more after he dropped off), and incredible cinematography.
There are moments in TPM that don't have any dialogue but still hold a lot of weight... that are fantastic! Most of the time people don't stop and look at how great it all is. AOTC and ROTS doesn't have nearly as many moments that do this for me.
COHETEBOY'S FAVORITE LITTLE MOMENTS
-the invasion of theed with a brilliant brass march
-the swim to Otah Gunga. First time you see it... wow.
-Sith Infiltrator with the percussion is probably the best flyby in the entire prequel trilogy.
-the moment Darth Maul fails on Tatooine and turns off his saber as the royal starship flies away. There's a french horn diddy that is awesome!
-introduction of the pod race arena and the flag parade. it just feels like star wars.
-Gungan army emerging from the fog. That was a really nice touch.
MY FAVORITE MOMENT WITHOUT MUSIC:
-Battle of Naboo where the Trade Federation tanks hover over the grassy hills. Then the dispatching of all of the battle droids. Yuup.. you knew just how the gungans felt too when you saw all of those droids. Hate them or not, you "gulped" along with them.
LIGHTSABERS
TPM had the best lightsaber choreography BAR NONE. You thought that you'd see better and better in 2 and 3 but you never did! Why? Because it was pitch perfect in 1. The way it was shot. The way they were performed and executed. And the film STARTS with impressive displays too! Qui-Gon does something really cool to get through the blast doors. And the final battle? Amazing! The long cut is what i like to see and they delivered. I was on the edge of my seat! I was holding my breath! That's how it should be. I never felt that way in ep2 and 3. It was too much and became uninteresting. Let's not even talk about the Arena battle in ep2.
CHARACTERS YOU CARE ABOUT
-Liam Neeson was such a good choice for Qui-Gon Jinn. He was a great actor! He was someone you really cared about. With the combo of Ewan McGregor, it was my favorite jedi team on screen. This was how the Jedi was supposed to be.
-Darth Maul... many say he was a wasted character. But they only say that because he was SO FREAKIN GOOD. Wow. He brought 2 bladed saber to the table and the way it was presented was sooo frickin cool. Man of few words but what a great villain. Jumping out of the speeder to attack Qui-Gon was awesome too. Having probe droids go out was another cool moment.
So there's just a sample of why TPM is actually my 4th favorite star wars film. Part of it was that they shot a lot of it more practically and it wasn't so digital as the others. I liked that. The cameras were staged in a more convincing manner so that it felt like the older Star Wars films.
TPM'S EASY FIXES
The bad that was in TPM is easily fixed in post production which makes it infinitely more enjoyable. If you were to try and fix the problems with AOTC or ROTS, it would require way too much CG, way too much reshooting, recasting, and rewrites.
-Jar Jar is a character. His voice and dialogue annoys me the most. He could be redubbed to be less annoying and also edited down to say the essential lines.
-Underwater "always a bigger fish" moments take too long to get you to where you need to be. Editing will fix this.
-poop and farts... I'm actually okay with Jar Jar stepping in poo. But take away the sound of the squish and take away his dialogue and what you have instead is a funny moment in the background. Only those who are paying attention can sit there and go "haw haw!"
-Redubbing of Neimoidians. I always like to have more aliens be aliens in Star Wars and not have EVERYONE speaking english or huttese. Have the Neimodians speak in an alien language when amongst themselves would be cool. And speak english with humans. Cool!
^so that's just a few ways to make TPM better without too much work. Many have already done it with great success.
THE OTHER PREQUELS
ROTS is fun to watch visually but it's very hollow in comparison. There's a lot of layers so it really shouldn't be as hollow as it is. But it was just executed in such a way that it tries to tackle way too much and only brings some of to fruition.
AOTC was really bad.
I think perhaps why 2 and 3 were so disappointing is because of how strongly executed 1 was. True, it was a much easier story to tell, but it had to be. You might have a moment in 2 or 3 that you like best, but was it really done in the best way? Was the scene acted well?
In ep1, Anakin says that he wants to be the first one to see all of the stars. He wants to be the one that frees the slaves. What would have made ep3 a whole lot more is if they tied it back to the failure of what he once hoped.... or make his darkside transition tied to still having that as a goal... but in a misguided direction.
TPM is a solid film. My parents, having not seen ANY of the Star Wars films went to see it with me one weekend and my mom really liked it (surprisingly!) and so did my dad (he's the harshest critic). When I took them to ep2... they had no reaction which meant they didn't like it. Finally with ep3... they felt it was good but still liked ep1 the best.
TPM is the prequel that has the most fun being a Star wars movie. Yes, it's an introduction, but what's wrong with that? It's a complete film. It has a GREAT score by John Williams, fantastic designs by Doug Chiang (i felt the designs suffered more after he dropped off), and incredible cinematography.
There are moments in TPM that don't have any dialogue but still hold a lot of weight... that are fantastic! Most of the time people don't stop and look at how great it all is. AOTC and ROTS doesn't have nearly as many moments that do this for me.
COHETEBOY'S FAVORITE LITTLE MOMENTS
-the invasion of theed with a brilliant brass march
-the swim to Otah Gunga. First time you see it... wow.
-Sith Infiltrator with the percussion is probably the best flyby in the entire prequel trilogy.
-the moment Darth Maul fails on Tatooine and turns off his saber as the royal starship flies away. There's a french horn diddy that is awesome!
-introduction of the pod race arena and the flag parade. it just feels like star wars.
-Gungan army emerging from the fog. That was a really nice touch.
MY FAVORITE MOMENT WITHOUT MUSIC:
-Battle of Naboo where the Trade Federation tanks hover over the grassy hills. Then the dispatching of all of the battle droids. Yuup.. you knew just how the gungans felt too when you saw all of those droids. Hate them or not, you "gulped" along with them.
LIGHTSABERS
TPM had the best lightsaber choreography BAR NONE. You thought that you'd see better and better in 2 and 3 but you never did! Why? Because it was pitch perfect in 1. The way it was shot. The way they were performed and executed. And the film STARTS with impressive displays too! Qui-Gon does something really cool to get through the blast doors. And the final battle? Amazing! The long cut is what i like to see and they delivered. I was on the edge of my seat! I was holding my breath! That's how it should be. I never felt that way in ep2 and 3. It was too much and became uninteresting. Let's not even talk about the Arena battle in ep2.
CHARACTERS YOU CARE ABOUT
-Liam Neeson was such a good choice for Qui-Gon Jinn. He was a great actor! He was someone you really cared about. With the combo of Ewan McGregor, it was my favorite jedi team on screen. This was how the Jedi was supposed to be.
-Darth Maul... many say he was a wasted character. But they only say that because he was SO FREAKIN GOOD. Wow. He brought 2 bladed saber to the table and the way it was presented was sooo frickin cool. Man of few words but what a great villain. Jumping out of the speeder to attack Qui-Gon was awesome too. Having probe droids go out was another cool moment.
So there's just a sample of why TPM is actually my 4th favorite star wars film. Part of it was that they shot a lot of it more practically and it wasn't so digital as the others. I liked that. The cameras were staged in a more convincing manner so that it felt like the older Star Wars films.
TPM'S EASY FIXES
The bad that was in TPM is easily fixed in post production which makes it infinitely more enjoyable. If you were to try and fix the problems with AOTC or ROTS, it would require way too much CG, way too much reshooting, recasting, and rewrites.
-Jar Jar is a character. His voice and dialogue annoys me the most. He could be redubbed to be less annoying and also edited down to say the essential lines.
-Underwater "always a bigger fish" moments take too long to get you to where you need to be. Editing will fix this.
-poop and farts... I'm actually okay with Jar Jar stepping in poo. But take away the sound of the squish and take away his dialogue and what you have instead is a funny moment in the background. Only those who are paying attention can sit there and go "haw haw!"
-Redubbing of Neimoidians. I always like to have more aliens be aliens in Star Wars and not have EVERYONE speaking english or huttese. Have the Neimodians speak in an alien language when amongst themselves would be cool. And speak english with humans. Cool!
^so that's just a few ways to make TPM better without too much work. Many have already done it with great success.
THE OTHER PREQUELS
ROTS is fun to watch visually but it's very hollow in comparison. There's a lot of layers so it really shouldn't be as hollow as it is. But it was just executed in such a way that it tries to tackle way too much and only brings some of to fruition.
AOTC was really bad.
I think perhaps why 2 and 3 were so disappointing is because of how strongly executed 1 was. True, it was a much easier story to tell, but it had to be. You might have a moment in 2 or 3 that you like best, but was it really done in the best way? Was the scene acted well?
In ep1, Anakin says that he wants to be the first one to see all of the stars. He wants to be the one that frees the slaves. What would have made ep3 a whole lot more is if they tied it back to the failure of what he once hoped.... or make his darkside transition tied to still having that as a goal... but in a misguided direction.
TPM is a solid film. My parents, having not seen ANY of the Star Wars films went to see it with me one weekend and my mom really liked it (surprisingly!) and so did my dad (he's the harshest critic). When I took them to ep2... they had no reaction which meant they didn't like it. Finally with ep3... they felt it was good but still liked ep1 the best.
