UFC, etc.

[azurepred]

Didnt the same thing happened with Rogers? Before he fought Fedor he was not ranked and then afterwards he was in the top 10.

but in the end, does it really matter if your not a champion? We could debate rankings night and day...............but how can a guy be ranked higher than the champion in the guys same division? Yeah, Fedor is supposedly a great fighter, but thats only 1 solid win under Werdum's belt; he hasnt proven anything by having it.

 

[daikkenaurora]

Yup, which was criminally insane. Rogers lone win was against an Arlovski who's best days are behind him.

Poor Andrei. Ever since that first loss to Timmay, he's been gun shy. Then he decided to completely forgo his ***** experience, train with Freddie Roach, and proceed to get outboxed by Antonio ****ing Silva.

He was on a nice 5 fight win streak before that Fedor loss, though. It seems like after many guys fight Fedor, they're never the same afterwards. Whether it's Timmay, Arlovski, Lindland, Hunt, and Randelman. There are exceptions of course, and I'm mostly talking out of my ass after having one too many drinks and a vicodin.

Makes no sense. So just by losing to Fedor you get ranked. lol What crap.

I couldnt believe Arlovski didnt try and take Silva to the ground.

but in the end, does it really matter if your not a champion? We could debate rankings night and day...............but how can a guy be ranked higher than the champion in the guys same division? Yeah, Fedor is supposedly a great fighter, but thats only 1 solid win under Werdum's belt; he hasnt proven anything by having it.

Hell if I know, I dont rank these things. lol I dont see how Fedor and Werdum are ranked higher then Overeem.

 

[NosferatuBill36]

thats only 1 solid win under Werdum's belt; he hasnt proven anything by having it.

1 solid win?

Werdum has beaten Gonzaga twice, Mike Kyle, Overeem, Aleks, Vera, Silva, lost an extremely close decision to Kharitonev, and now Fedor.

The man has a pretty impressive resume.

 

[NosferatuBill36]

Hell if I know, I dont rank these things. lol I dont see how Fedor and Werdum are ranked higher then Overeem.

Overeem's only impressive win in the last few years was Rogers(if you call that impressive).

Other than that, he has dominated cans and a Fujita that belongs to AARP.

 

[daikkenaurora]

Overeem's only impressive win in the last few years was Rogers(if you call that impressive).

Other than that, he has dominated cans and a Fujita that belongs to AARP.

Yes and Fedor has fought the #1 guys in MMA the last few years.

the champ should be #1 ranked in the division with the next guy being the #1 contender. You cant debate that.

 

[Devil_666]

Dana and the UFC are a bunch of babies, making Tapout pull the Fedor shirt and threatening them with a lifetime ban.

Don't worry, Tapout reconsidered and they're releasing a new Fedor shirt.

You can order it now from their site.

 

[NosferatuBill36]

Yes and Fedor has fought the #1 guys in MMA the last few years.

the champ should be #1 ranked in the division with the next guy being the #1 contender. You cant debate that.

Well, if you're just talking about Strikeforce's HW division, then yes.

I guess I misunderstood. I thought when you were speaking about rankings for Overeem, that you were talking about ALL of MMA.

Regardless, that first comment you made makes it seem as if you're comparing Fedor's body of work to Alistair's.

Please don't.

Regardless of ANYONE'S feelings on Fedor, Alistair's resume is LAUGHABLE compared to Fedor's. Yes, even in the last few years. And this is coming from a Demolition Man fan.

 

[daikkenaurora]

Well, if you're just talking about Strikeforce's HW division, then yes.

I guess I misunderstood. I thought when you were speaking about rankings for Overeem, that you were talking about ALL of MMA.

Regardless, that first comment you made makes it seem as if you're comparing Fedor's body of work to Alistair's.

Please don't.

Regardless of ANYONE'S feelings on Fedor, Alistair's resume is LAUGHABLE compared to Fedor's. Yes, even in the last few years. And this is coming from a Demolition Man fan.

OBVIOUSLY! So we would assume Overeem's rank would be higher than Werdum's especially since Lesnar is higher up then Carwin (Champ higher rank then the #1 contender).

On that list, they have Lesnar as #1 even though he's only had 5 fights. That doesnt make sense.

You said Overeem fights canned fighters and I'm saying Fedor has been docking talented guys to keep his win streak. ____ even he doesnt deny that. Saying you want to retire undefeated and turning down fights the organization you work for (or with) shows just that. Fedor better record and overall fights then Overeem yes, does Werdum deserve to be higher ranked than Overeem NOPE!

 

[NASEDO]

Don't worry, Tapout reconsidered and they're releasing a new Fedor shirt.

You can order it now from their site.

I'd rather wear that shirt then those baggy pants you wear, Eminem. Your the guy who gave John Cena 4 stars on his rap album. Your such a tool, every post you make on this forum is a joke, literally.

 

[NASEDO]

OBVIOUSLY! So we would assume Overeem's rank would be higher than Werdum's especially since Lesnar is higher up then Carwin (Champ higher rank then the #1 contender).

On that list, they have Lesnar as #1 even though he's only had 5 fights. That doesnt make sense.

You said Overeem fights canned fighters and I'm saying Fedor has been docking talented guys to keep his win streak. ____ even he doesnt deny that. Saying you want to retire undefeated and turning down fights the organization you work for (or with) shows just that. Fedor better record and overall fights then Overeem yes, does Werdum deserve to be higher ranked than Overeem NOPE!

Those ranking r all messed up. But I don't understand how Fedor can say he wanted to retire undefeated when he all ready had a lose, thats stupid.

Until the UFC sorts its HW's out theres no #1. Atleast lets wait until the Lesnar v Carwin fight. Out of all the divisions in MMA the HW's gotta be the weakest but the new crop can change that. I wanna see Dos Santos take it over.

 

[Devil_666]

I'd rather wear that shirt then those baggy pants you wear, Eminem. Your the guy who gave John Cena 4 stars on his rap album. Your such a tool, every post you make on this forum is a joke, literally.

____________________

My HW Rankings
#01 Brock Lesnar
#02 Shane Carwin
#03 Cain Velasquez
#04 Junior dos Santos
#05 Fabrico Werdum
#06 Fedor Emelianenko
#07 Frank Mir
#08 Alistair Overeem
#09 Big Nog
#10 Antonio Silva

This will change come Saturday. If Brock wins, he stays at #1 and Shane drops to #4 behind Cain and JDS. If Shane wins, he goes to #1 and Brock drops to #3 behind Cain.

Top 5 P4P
1. Anderson Silva
2. GSP
3. Jose Aldo
4. Fedor
5. Shogun

 

[NosferatuBill36]

and I'm saying Fedor has been docking talented guys to keep his win streak. ____ even he doesnt deny that. Saying you want to retire undefeated and turning down fights the organization you work for (or with) shows just that

2 things:

1. Who do you know that Fedor has turned down?
2. Link?

Fedor's a nationalist. THAT has been his major problem and will forever be his major problem. Nationalism, and his ****ed up management. But I've never heard of Fedor turning down a fight in Strikeforce or anywhere else for that matter.

Fedor was ready to take on Barnett(which MOST MMA publications had as top 5 in the world at the time) when his urnine shot loads of drugged piss.

I mean, who else is there in Strikeforce to fight besides Werdum and Overeem(who I would bet that he would not pass any non-independent[ha ha] drug testing given by a sanctioning body in the U.S.?

The reality? Fedor fights one more time, beats Werdum, then retires and enters Russia's political system.

Overeem reigns supreme in Strikeforce for the next few years. Jumps to UFC, where he is crushed by their superior talent.

Then the world ends in 2012, and Anderson Silva establishes his own planet.

 

[daikkenaurora]

I'd rather wear that shirt then those baggy pants you wear, Eminem. Your the guy who gave John Cena 4 stars on his rap album. Your such a tool, every post you make on this forum is a joke, literally.

I cant stand John Cena. And have you seen his fans?

Those ranking r all messed up. But I don't understand how Fedor can say he wanted to retire undefeated when he all ready had a lose, thats stupid.

Until the UFC sorts its HW's out theres no #1. Atleast lets wait until the Lesnar v Carwin fight. Out of all the divisions in MMA the HW's gotta be the weakest but the new crop can change that. I wanna see Dos Santos take it over.

Well I guess he doesnt consider that L a loss since it was by a cut and he avenged that loss.

Well the UFC focuses on LW division. They need to do more TUF HW.

 

[NosferatuBill36]

My HW Rankings
#01 Brock Lesnar
#02 Shane Carwin
#03 Cain Velasquez
#04 Junior dos Santos
#05 Fabrico Werdum
#06 Fedor Emelianenko
#07 Frank Mir
#08 Alistair Overeem
#09 Big Nog
#10 Antonio Silva


This is much better, even though I'd place Fedor above Werdum. Yes, still. Just like I wouldn't place Edgar ahead of Penn in LW rankings.

I disagree with your p4p list, though. Ugh.

 

[NosferatuBill36]

They need to do more TUF HW.

Agreed. But the problem with HW TUF's are the matches are extremely boring.

The ratings for all the HW seasons were low. Perhaps with the right coaches, but I watch the show for the fights, not the shenanagins.

 

[kobayashi93]

My HW Rankings
#01 Brock Lesnar
#02 Shane Carwin
#03 Cain Velasquez
#04 Junior dos Santos
#05 Fabrico Werdum
#06 Fedor Emelianenko
#07 Frank Mir
#08 Alistair Overeem
#09 Big Nog
#10 Antonio Silva

Top 5 P4P
1. Anderson Silva
2. GSP
3. Jose Aldo
4. Fedor
5. Lyoto Machida

Those look good to me.

 

[NASEDO]

My name is Devil, and I'm a rapper
I'm so fat I eat candy wrappers

I have no life, so I post in this thread
even-though I dont collect Sideshow heads

All my post are funny jokes
people must think I'm so dope

The WWE, The UFC, Lesnar, Cena
you no what I mean

I love them and always will, if you ever talk bad about them
get ready for my kill....word

yeahhh...Uhhhhhh.....yeah.....
Booom Booom

 

[daikkenaurora]

2 things:

1. Who do you know that Fedor has turned down?
2. Link?

Fedor's a nationalist. THAT has been his major problem and will forever be his major problem. Nationalism, and his ****ed up management. But I've never heard of Fedor turning down a fight in Strikeforce or anywhere else for that matter.

Fedor was ready to take on Barnett(which MOST MMA publications had as top 5 in the world at the time) when his urnine shot loads of drugged piss.

I mean, who else is there in Strikeforce to fight besides Werdum and Overeem(who I would bet that he would not pass any non-independent[ha ha] drug testing given by a sanctioning body in the U.S.?

The reality? Fedor fights one more time, beats Werdum, then retires and enters Russia's political system.

Overeem reigns supreme in Strikeforce for the next few years. Jumps to UFC, where he is crushed by their superior talent.

Then the world ends in 2012, and Anderson Silva establishes his own planet.

You obviously didnt understand what I was saying so I wont go on saying it.

You act like I'm saying Overeem is the best and fedor sucks. that is not what I'm saying.

 

[NosferatuBill36]

You obviously didnt understand what I was saying so I wont go on saying it.

You act like I'm saying Overeem is the best and fedor sucks. that is not what I'm saying.

? I'm not "acting" like anything. I KNOW you're not saying that. Most of that post wasn't even in response to you, I was just ranting.

Relax, man.

Regardless, you DID say Fedor turned down fights. I simply asked for proof.

Originally Posted by daikkenaurora
and I'm saying Fedor has been docking talented guys to keep his win streak. ____ even he doesnt deny that. Saying you want to retire undefeated and turning down fights the organization you work for (or with) shows just that

 

[NASEDO]

My HW Rankings
#01 Brock Lesnar
#02 Shane Carwin
#03 Cain Velasquez
#04 Junior dos Santos
#05 Fabrico Werdum
#06 Fedor Emelianenko
#07 Frank Mir
#08 Alistair Overeem
#09 Big Nog
#10 Antonio Silva


This is much better, even though I'd place Fedor above Werdum. Yes, still. Just like I wouldn't place Edgar ahead of Penn in LW rankings.

I disagree with your p4p list, though. Ugh.

I'd put Cain above Lesnar just based upon skill n technique