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Is there a specific thing about Barack Obama that makes you guys trust him or is it more of a distrust for McCain and Republicans?
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DarkArtist81
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I trust him because he seems to genuinely want to change things for the better, he's not altering his position later just to appease potential voters, and I also like that he shares my views on many subjects.
Plus he enunciates and intelligent.
(I mailed in my ballot today, guess who I voted for?
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I trust him because he seems to genuinely want to change things for the better, he's not altering his position later just to appease potential voters, and I also like that he shares my views on many subjects.
Plus he enunciates and intelligent.
(I mailed in my ballot today, guess who I voted for?
I trust him because he seems to genuinely want to change things for the better, he's not altering his position later just to appease potential voters, and I also like that he shares my views on many subjects.
Plus he enunciates and intelligent.
(I mailed in my ballot today, guess who I voted for?
Again, thats me. After the last 8 years I'm not sure I can trust the other side ever again. I'm seriously that far gone from those guys.
DarkArtist81
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Same here... my family is very Republican, I was raised around it. But after my experience in the war and watching Bush these past 8 yrs, I don't know if I will ever see eye to eye with that party or the right ever again...
But that's just my life and experience speaking.
LChinoz
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I trust this man
ProgMatinee
circlesendwheretheybegin
So you guys dislike Republicans more than you like Obama?
Your experience in the war. Is it something that you can talk about. I would like to here about your time over there, and what happened to you that made you change to who you are today.
For me it's not about Republicans or Democrats. It's about who I think can do a better job for this country. Is that crazy thinking?
DarkArtist81
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No, I disliked Republicans before I knew anything about Obama. I like Obama a lot, it's not simply a case of "I hate Republicans, so I will vote any Democrat into office". I didn't vote for Kerry, because I didn't like him all that much. I didn't vote Bush either, I abstained.
LChinoz
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Heck no! It's not about like and dislike. It is about whether or not we can put trust in a Republican administration after the last 8 years. I am by no means liberal, and have voted for Republicans before (down ticket). The fact that I agree with Obama's policies reveal he is not as liberal as the media makes him out to be. It is about if we want to give Republicans yet another chance at fixing the problems they largely caused, or are we going to change things up with the Democrats. On top of that, Obama is obviously intelligent, and yes that does not a good president make, but I am ready for a more cerebral approach. I do not think John McCain is a bad man, just that he has dated ideas that have already failed us before.
Shropt
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Sometimes you just get tired of knowing that your country is controlled by an old white guy who's in the pocket of every fatcat in the biz. Why can't we try something else for a change?
LChinoz
Super Freak
A lady I know told me "Every generation has a chance to elect their president, that represents them. For me, it was JFK. I think it is your time." I agree.
I dislike them because I don't trust them. They've not shown me over the last 8 years especially they care for anyone but the wealthy or themselves. So many lies that have come out over the last 8 years hasn't helped either. They don't care about education, actual tax issues that will help, lowering the debt, etc.
I trust Obama and what he says he wants to do. When I read or hear what he wants to do I think that has potential. I hear him speak and I feel like there just might be hope this country can actually get back on track and do what it should have been doing all along.
Fubeca
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Ah so it is a vote against the Repubs not a vote for Obama!
ProgMatinee
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Not crazy at all, what I'm trying to drive at is finding whether people are cheering on Obama because he's the democrat on the ticket or cheering on Obama because he's Obama.
If anyone is really voting for Obama because he's Obama, I want to know who they think Obama is. Maybe I'm not traveling in the right circles to know what he's ever done in government. What bills he's proposed, etc. Right now he just seems like all glitter to me.
DarkArtist81
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I was in the Navy, was an AM (Aircraft Mechanic) on F-14's... stationed in Atsugi, Japan with VF-154 "The Black Knights". When 9/11 happened, I was very much ready for payback and our squadron eventually was deployed to fight the War on Terror.
We did our part and never questioned our mission, but later once Iraq started to become a hot button issue.. we'd all watch the news and wait to see what was going to happen.
Even then, we had theories about why we were being sent over there. What with Iraq's economy in ruins, their military strength dimmed, and the lack of evidence for WMD's... it didn't seem like something that was going to become a reality.
But, it happened. And we got to hear from our Admirals the gaggle of half truths and shady phrases that were being used by the Bush administration to sell the country on invading Iraq. It seemed genuine, but the men were confused. Some of us felt that we were being misdirected, that our National pain was about to be aimed at someone else... The President using our bruised pride for his own ends.
So we fought, and we took the country in mere days. Fake Wars last longer, it was a joke. And when Bush went on TV and gave his "Mission Accomplished" speech, we all rolled our eyes because we knew we'd still be out there for another 7 months or so... maybe longer.
I guess I saw it more clearly because I was in the system, because I was spoon fed the crap. It just never sat right with me, I felt used. And the subsequent years of soldiers dying, and endless cruises for Sailors in Iraq... it's just rubbed salt in the wounds.
I didn't know that I was indeed a Liberal, even then... I just knew I had passionate beliefs that weren't shared by all of my shipmates or friends. I know now though, and I will never forget why I chose that path.
DarkArtist81
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If you are going to try and spin my words into things I am not saying, I'm done trying to inform you of my reasons.
LChinoz
Super Freak
A lady I know told me "Every generation has a chance to elect their president, that represents them. For me, it was JFK. I think it is your time." I agree.
VOMIT.
Maybe you should buy this lady one of the Obama as Superman shirts.
It's this kind of stuff that actually turns me off of Obama more than anything (well, that and the fact that he clearly has radical leftist ideas).
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